4AT and CVT

[clarence]

last i heard the '07 4AT ex-stock is going for $52k. if you don't want body kit it is $51k. so this is cheaper than a vios. or you can consider the lancer glx at $48k, but a bit lousier fuel economy and build. don't trust sgcarmart pricing for new cars. not accurate. i suspect the reason why it is so high because dealer need the margin to do overtrade for people.

hmm if i look at second hand price on sgcarmart now...
take this as an example:
http://www.sgcarmart.com/main/info-2ENCkAlz-1068.html

$42,100 for 2 years old car = $42,100 / 8 years left = $5262.50 / year
$52,000 for a new car = $52,000 / 10 years left = $5200.00 / year

almost the same price, but don't forget it is a brand new car... with warranty! now they are throwing in free NPMP i think, so that is 3 year free labour and parts.

and if i am not wrong, new car loan interest rate is lower.

2nd hand car can be good deal if you know how to see. best if you have friends who are mechanic. must check if the car had accident before or not but otherwise some things even the trained eye cannot see...

Your calculation of the depreciation is wrong.

You forgot that there is a scrap value of approximately $7K.

In summary, 2nd hand Latio depreciation (2005 registered onwards) ranges from $3800 to $4200 a year, depending on model (4A/T, CVT, Sports).

Brand new Latio deprecition ranges from $4600 to $5200 a year.

[detach8]

thanks for pointing out bro. my caculation is not accurate. there are too many factors to consider.
i did a very rought calculation

not forgetting car PARF value decrease from 5th year onwards at 10% per year, so the "resale" price i did not take into consideration when calculating this. i am just assuming you pay up fully for the car and expect $0 in return

nontheles the difference in $ is not very much, at most few hundered a year. but a car with prior accident history and without warranty, is what really what i personally fear!

[clarence]

If you buy 2nd hand, you can send it for STA or VICOM evaluation which costs about $100.

If you are concerned about warranty issues, just buy 1 that is less than 3 yrs old, which would still be under warranty, so that if there are any faults, you can get it fixed for free at Tan Chong.

[gh05tss]

If you buy 2nd hand, you can send it for STA or VICOM evaluation which costs about $100.

If you are concerned about warranty issues, just buy 1 that is less than 3 yrs old, which would still be under warranty, so that if there are any faults, you can get it fixed for free at Tan Chong.

3 years warranty from TCm is only valid if the previous owner did his/her past servicing with TCM.

[Zippy]

If you buy 2nd hand, you can send it for STA or VICOM evaluation which costs about $100.

If you are concerned about warranty issues, just buy 1 that is less than 3 yrs old, which would still be under warranty, so that if there are any faults, you can get it fixed for free at Tan Chong.

Hmm... personally, i dun quite trust STA or VICOM coz the people there all seem very bo-chup. Better go to a mechanic or workshop u trust. At least your regular workshop will know u are repeat business so they tend to be more thorough. Just my 2 cents.

[clarence]

3 years warranty from TCm is only valid if the previous owner did his/her past servicing with TCM.

Several forumers here have confirmed that TC honoured the warranty even though the customer dis not service at TC during warranty period.

Receipts of regular servicing during recommended intervals must be produced.

[iagree]

Several forumers here have confirmed that TC honoured the warranty even though the customer dis not service at TC during warranty period.

Receipts of regular servicing during recommended intervals must be produced.

iagree, provided the genuine parts are not spoilt by other servicing ctr?

[detach8]

< 3 years if accident free, i think should be fine. just make sure you report the slightest problem to get things changed otherwise some wear and tear parts you can never tell when it is going to kaput.

don't bother viacom or those "inspection", my crappy nissan march also can get a B at the inspection but the car is having a previous accident repair mark on the bonnet, rich engine and botak front brake pad.

last time i ********, ask the 2nd hand dealer send for inspection, now.. NEVER, i think i inspect myself lagi better.

[LatioR]

agreed that getting used car has many factors to concern ...for me, just got my latio in end jun and found out the centre lock is not functioning well at the drive side Thanks God as my car still under warranty though it's about few more days reaching 3yrs. Sent my car to TC, at 1st, they claimed that it's normal and tried to showed me other latio cars there, but others seem like working fine. Left my car there (as it's already late evening), and TC changed the centre lock for me FOC in next day    So far still quite happy with my car, by FC still not as high as it could be (~12km/l as seeing many lations can get >14km/l)

[iagree]

Yo guys,

My ride hitting 28000 KM soon, going for my 5th servicing soon leh. Wanna to service @ Msia's TCM :)

[detach8]

lol dont worry i'm getting 12km/l too... it might hve to do with your travel pattern
i work in tanjong pagar area.. if u drive to that area at 9am from west u know bloody AYE always jam at Alexandra there then right after that exit the traffic is smooth liao (govt v. smart! put the gantry there to gather "statistics"... tmd)
i also drive to my gf's place after work, then i drive home. weekend also the same up and down trip, so short trips are bad for FC. anyway... i think fuel prices have come down a little. time to enjoy the ride abit more. ~

[iagree]

lol dont worry i'm getting 12km/l too... it might hve to do with your travel pattern
i work in tanjong pagar area.. if u drive to that area at 9am from west u know bloody AYE always jam at Alexandra there then right after that exit the traffic is smooth liao (govt v. smart! put the gantry there to gather "statistics"... tmd)
i also drive to my gf's place after work, then i drive home. weekend also the same up and down trip, so short trips are bad for FC. anyway... i think fuel prices have come down a little. time to enjoy the ride abit more. ~

hi detach8,

iagree w u.
travel pattern.
ya, AYE near Alexandra is very jam! sux one! hate it !!!

[FP553]

I think the most important is to make sure you have some basic knowledge into how to check whether did the car ever suffer from any major accident damages. If not, then the only thing you will need to do is to make sure that you go to a reliable 2nd hand car dealer.

I have gotten my own 1.5 years latio premium from a 2nd hand car dealer and he even showed me how to check whether did the car went through heavy repair due to major accidents. He also brought the car to TC for a thorough checks and servicing before releasing to me. Even reduce 2k immedaitely understanding that I'm a geniune buyer and does not like to waste time.

The catch is be patience!!! Dont just jump in without knowing how deep is the pool.

There are many experiences and guides here in this forum and also from the net. 

[clarence]

Your dealer must be 1 in a million. 

Can you share the dealer name with us?