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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: shawnie on March 01, 2010, 07:50:20 AM
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Helloz...
Just bought a Nissan Latio HB yesterday (2nd hand) and pump my first petrol at SPC 8000. I thought latio was kinda of Fuel Economic but for 1 bar of petrol i only manage to travel ard 70km. I travel on mostly highway today... is the 'brand' of petrol crucial to the FC??
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Hi bro.
Hope you're enjoying your new ride. I share your concern as I was pretty much in the same boat as you were when i first bought my 2nd hand sedan but I slowly learnt a couple of things when I did a search on the other threads posted and shared by our learned bros who have, under their belts, a wealth of driving experience:
1. based on the car manual, Ron92 grade fuel is good enough to power the car.
2. the amount of fuel efficiency depends how consciencious you are as a driver in terms of your footing on the accelerator. i believe you will notice some improvement in fc when you go light-footed. i've been driving my latio for about 4-5 months now and i am achieving about 236km on a half tank.
3. practise defensive driving - i believe this helps to cut down the over-revving of your vehicle in many road situations. e.g. avoid the right-most lane if possible, because when you're the first vehicle and stop at the lights, the car behind is prob gonna be chasing you. so, avoid stuff like that. ego is only 5sec on the road.
Hmm. i believe there are other more obvious factors like your load of the car etc, there's a wealth of information in this forum, so just run a search and you should be able to benefit from the wealth of experience from our bros who were kind enough to share them. i wish you well in experimenting your FC! :thumbsup:
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alright thanks bro...
so far been quite comfy with the ride (2 days) but i think the FC is really the problem for me. I'm hitting almost 80% highway due to work and i hope this ride can fulfil me
=)
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Helloz...
Just bought a Nissan Latio HB yesterday (2nd hand) and pump my first petrol at SPC 8000. I thought latio was kinda of Fuel Economic but for 1 bar of petrol i only manage to travel ard 70km. I travel on mostly highway today... is the 'brand' of petrol crucial to the FC??
1 bar = 1/4 tank or 1 bar = 1 sub-marking to the next?
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Helloz...
Just bought a Nissan Latio HB yesterday (2nd hand) and pump my first petrol at SPC 8000. I thought latio was kinda of Fuel Economic but for 1 bar of petrol i only manage to travel ard 70km. I travel on mostly highway today... is the 'brand' of petrol crucial to the FC??
Hi bro, dun worry, for the 1st bar, it normally to hit between 70 - 80 km for latio! After the 1/2 tank mark, the fuel needle will move quite slowly! I can actully hit 450-480km untill the Refill Tank Light lights up.
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1 bar = 1/4 tank or 1 bar = 1 sub-marking to the next?
1 big bar = 1/4 tank
bro ren_hao, if i can hit i sub bar at 70km haha i think power liao lor
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Hi bro, dun worry, for the 1st bar, it normally to hit between 70 - 80 km for latio! After the 1/2 tank mark, the fuel needle will move quite slowly! I can actully hit 450-480km untill the Refill Tank Light lights up.
oh thanks bro ahhoy... i about to hit my 1/2 tank soon after 1.5 days of driving.... =)
totally love this car feeling, but dun know why switch on aircon got a rumbling sound then disappear. and when i brake, i feel the car like a big jerky....
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Helloz...
Just bought a Nissan Latio HB yesterday (2nd hand) and pump my first petrol at SPC 8000. I thought latio was kinda of Fuel Economic but for 1 bar of petrol i only manage to travel ard 70km. I travel on mostly highway today... is the 'brand' of petrol crucial to the FC??
i have been driving my latio sport for coming 5yrs. Have been getting FC of abt 14.5km/l. My travel pattern is 80% HW & 20% urban using mixture Ron95 petrol from Cowtec & Hum.
I think impt is service the car regularly & a light right foot. Usually when move off from traffic light, lorries can win me.
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Forgot to mention my car is fully stock
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i have been driving my latio sport for coming 5yrs. Have been getting FC of abt 14.5km/l. My travel pattern is 80% HW & 20% urban using mixture Ron95 petrol from Cowtec & Hum.
I think impt is service the car regularly & a light right foot. Usually when move off from traffic light, lorries can win me.
same ah bro jonpaul0104... was highbeam by lorries too lor me... haha
anyway wat you mean Ron95 petrol from Cowtec and Hum??
any good engine oil to use?? cause i bought this 2nd hand car and i bought know whether is it serviced by TCM or not. Will be heading to Autosaver if otherwise..
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same ah bro jonpaul0104... was highbeam by lorries too lor me... haha
anyway wat you mean Ron95 petrol from Cowtec and Hum??
any good engine oil to use?? cause i bought this 2nd hand car and i bought know whether is it serviced by TCM or not. Will be heading to Autosaver if otherwise..
Cowtec = Caltec
Hum = Shell
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Helloz...
Just bought a Nissan Latio HB yesterday (2nd hand) and pump my first petrol at SPC 8000. I thought latio was kinda of Fuel Economic but for 1 bar of petrol i only manage to travel ard 70km. I travel on mostly highway today... is the 'brand' of petrol crucial to the FC??
My take is the ECU problem, why ? Because it a resale car and the ECU is already "trained" by the previous owner, so my advise is go back TCM to have the ECU reset and you can "retrain" the ECU to suit your driving pattern and you can see your FC improve. ;)
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My take is the ECU problem, why ? Because it a resale car and the ECU is already "trained" by the previous owner, so my advise is go back TCM to have the ECU reset and you can "retrain" the ECU to suit your driving pattern and you can see your FC improve. ;)
so retraining ECU includes resetting it or juz drive and let it recognise my pattern?
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1 big bar = 1/4 tank
bro ren_hao, if i can hit i sub bar at 70km haha i think power liao lor
:D :D If you can hit 70 with 1 sub bar, you super power le.
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so retraining ECU includes resetting it or juz drive and let it recognise my pattern?
There is no need to reset the ECU as fellow forumer 'Jazz' suggested.
It will recognise your driving pattern and habit over time and your fuel economy will be stabilised.
How many rpm you you rev to. Try to rev below 3000rpm for maximum fuel economy. Best at 2500rpm, but pick up will be slow.
There is no need to pump 98RON petrol too. 95RON is sufficient if you can't bear to pump 92RON.
I suggest Esso which gives me the best mileage.
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To correct the statement below, i once see the mehcanic using the anlayze system and found that the ECU learning % will drop from 100% to 95% or below. As susggested by mechanic, as long as it is not more than 98%, the ECU will take longer time to learn the new driving habit..... My reading was 96% and once he reset it, it become 100% again.
There is no need to reset the ECU as fellow forumer 'Jazz' suggested.
It will recognise your driving pattern and habit over time and your fuel economy will be stabilised.
How many rpm you you rev to. Try to rev below 3000rpm for maximum fuel economy. Best at 2500rpm, but pick up will be slow.
There is no need to pump 98RON petrol too. 95RON is sufficient if you can't bear to pump 92RON.
I suggest Esso which gives me the best mileage.
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There is no need to reset the ECU as fellow forumer 'Jazz' suggested.
It will recognise your driving pattern and habit over time and your fuel economy will be stabilised.
How many rpm you you rev to. Try to rev below 3000rpm for maximum fuel economy. Best at 2500rpm, but pick up will be slow.
There is no need to pump 98RON petrol too. 95RON is sufficient if you can't bear to pump 92RON.
I suggest Esso which gives me the best mileage.
Esso? Hmm... after i switch from Shell to Esso, my consumption drop from 11-12 to 10+ :scared:. now on 4 or 5th tank. will pump till abt 10 tank then see how. if still so jia lat, then will switch back to shell. sianz.....
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I don't know if my fuel comsumption is good anot.
I always take half tank and 1/4 tank to guage.
My half tank at least will give me between 250km (worst) to 300km-320km (best).
When left 1/4 tank, I will already travelled 400km (worst) to 500km (best)
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I don't know if my fuel comsumption is good anot.
I always take half tank and 1/4 tank to guage.
My half tank at least will give me between 250km (worst) to 300km-320km (best).
When left 1/4 tank, I will already travelled 400km (worst) to 500km (best)
i'm travelling 2/3 of my tank and i only clock 300+ only
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i had a talk with one of our TLC laojiao today... Joel.
He said the best is we run all the way until the fuel indicator lights up, and then we go and pump to measure. By right can squeeze 40L. He said his is mostly city driving, can clock 600km on 40L. 15km/l
Maybe can try this method see how the FC works...
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i had a talk with one of our TLC laojiao today... Joel.
He said the best is we run all the way until the fuel indicator lights up, and then we go and pump to measure. By right can squeeze 40L. He said his is mostly city driving, can clock 600km on 40L. 15km/l
Maybe can try this method see how the FC works...
bro, his right foot maybe VERY light leh.
yours.... lead footed.
i think average is 500km / 37L, thats for me... 50% hw, 50% city, LOTS of heavy flooring. =]
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so retraining ECU includes resetting it or juz drive and let it recognise my pattern?
Better go for reset, some advise you against it isn't driving at all.
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For me, i will pump when the fuel indicator lights up. After filling up, write down the quantity of fuel you pump. Wait till the fuel indicator lights up again, write down the distance travelled. Do the same for 10 full tank. Total up the distance travelled and total fuel quantity used, than use total distance tavelled divided by total fuel quantity used, u will be able to tell 1l of fuel can bring you how far.
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Mine is an OPC. Just hit 14K mileage and notice that the FC has improved from the 13.5K point. Used to clock between 370 - 400km for one tank. Now hit 400km at the 3/4 tank bar. Hope this continues. I usually rev between 2 - 2.5K rpm. Have spark bridging done as well.
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Advantages of the CVT
Engines do not develop constant power at all speeds; they have specific speeds where torque (pulling power), horsepower (speed power) or fuel efficiency are at their highest levels. Because there are no gears to tie a given road speed directly to a given engine speed, the CVT can vary the engine speed as needed to access maximum power as well as maximum fuel efficiency. This allows the CVT to provide quicker acceleration than a conventional automatic or manual transmission while delivering superior fuel economy.
extracted from http://cars.about.com/od/thingsyouneedtoknow/a/CVT.htm
i believe there may be a slight difference between CVT and AT, and this might lead to differences between our CVT and AT FC experiences here. just note that we might not be having apple-to-apple comparison though, correct me if i am wrong! :thumbsup:
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its kind of disappointing to have low high FC because i travel from bukit batok to pasir ris everyday... maybe this is my first tank and cant really see the difference.... maybe i will try 95petrol too... damn pissed anyway, have 1 week driving my car, lorry driver chipped off my paint near the pax fender... kns
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its kind of disappointing to have low high FC because i travel from bukit batok to pasir ris everyday... maybe this is my first tank and cant really see the difference.... maybe i will try 95petrol too... damn pissed anyway, have 1 week driving my car, lorry driver chipped off my paint near the pax fender... kns
Bro, sad to hear that kena chipped off your new ride. Anyway dun be too mindful about the FC, just enjoy your ride first. ;)
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bro jazz... thanks!!
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Better go for reset, some advise you against it isn't driving at all.
Hi Shawnie,
I have called Tan Chong to confirm the facts.
The Service Advisor told me there is NO NEED to send the car in to reset the ECU.
The ECU will re-adjust and automatically reset itself to your driving habits after a few tankfuls of petrol.
But if you do want to take Alex's (Jazz) advise to send your car in to Tan Chong to reset the ECU, do note that there are charges involved.
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For me, i will pump when the fuel indicator lights up. After filling up, write down the quantity of fuel you pump. Wait till the fuel indicator lights up again, write down the distance travelled. Do the same for 10 full tank. Total up the distance travelled and total fuel quantity used, than use total distance tavelled divided by total fuel quantity used, u will be able to tell 1l of fuel can bring you how far.
ahhoy,
It is advisable to top up your tank when your fuel indicator is at the 1/4 level.
This is so as not to stress the fuel pump over the long term.
The higher the fuel level in your tank, the higher the pressure and the fuel pump need not work as hard.
Just imagine a water dispenser. When it is almost empty, you will notice that the water comes out slower.
An almost empty tank of petrol also means that all the dirt at the bottom of the fuel tank will be sucked by the fuel pump, but all these dirt will be filtered by the fuel filter which means you have to change your fuel filter more regularly.
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Hi Guys just wanna share my opinion
First, the car is owned previously, so do check out the filters, and perhaps flush engine, not much details I had, but these are plausible things I would do. in short, ensure the car is as stock is as possible on the components. this inc ensuring the tyres and rims are stock or near stock spec
Next, regarding fuel, I find different brands of fuel have different sorts of additives. some cleaner, some more power, some I dun know if any additives existed. So different brands of fuel in my opinion will give you different results and cost factor. when I took my new car, i remember vividly the car salesman of 25 yrs with TCM said to me as I start the engine "eh dun use 92, will not be good for your car engine", which on the 3rd mnth I disregarded his advise and when ahead with 92 fuel, I got a shock, 60KM for just a quater, at E light it was 320KM, further verified with another 3 full tanks relative result observed. reverting to my "normal" brand, I consistently get same result, which was like "spoilt", so I went for the "branded" cleanest and premium priced fuel for 2 full tanks before acheiving normal FC with my regular fuel
with regards to FC reading I disagree the practice of using a quater mark as a good indication. the "float" in the tank for reading fuel status is always in "unstable" state, meaning when U read your fuel meter, please ensure U are really on a flat plain, U can do a simple verification, when your E light just comes on, find a steep ram or sometimes a slope, and u will notice the E light goes away, I've also noticed on a bloody hot day, the E light seems to come on rather quickly and disappears when I collect my car in the cool evening and only to reappear again when I completed a 25KM journey
Our car weighs higher when fully fueled, as the car uses fuel, the car weight goes down gradually, thus the FC will range across from a fully fueled status to the last 10L, this is no rocket science but straight forward engineering facts, where the FC is in propotion to the overall weight of the car, attributed by how much fuel is left vs the distance travelled plus engine idle.
As for ECU, it constantly "learns" your driving pattern, takes about a few days to adapt it. Anyway when I do serviceing in TCM, I was always reading a slip given that says "ECU RESET DONE", which I find it annoying as the car needs to readapt to my driving style which in the midst cause me to have higher FC. So dun have to waste time and money for the sole purpose of resetting ECU.
So in summary, just ensure the car is stock, well maintained, optimally fueled and enjoy.
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Hi jiliow, thanks for sharing your thoughts but can I just point out about how you said:
"Our car weighs higher when fully fueled, as the car uses fuel, the car weight goes down gradually, thus the FC will range across from a fully fueled status to the last 10L, this is no rocket science but straight forward engineering facts, where the FC is in propotion to the overall weight of the car, attributed by how much fuel is left vs the distance travelled plus engine idle"
I can't agree more with you on this which is why I sometimes psychologically make myself feel better by thinking that running my car on half a tank is more "fuel efficient" for point a to point b commuting.
Also carrying a full tank of fuel adds load and is akin to running SOC training with 2 full water bottles when you only can drink the water after you finish your final run down..... :w00t:
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There are pros and cons on driving with a full tank or less than 1.2 tank.
Full tank
- Ensures your fuel tank will not rust
- Your fuel pump has an easier job due to the pressure from the fuel
- Heavier car which translates to a little higher fuel consumption (neg).
1/2 tank or less
- Lighter car since more economical
- Fuel tank may rust, but this is not an issue if you drive daily
- Fuel pump works harder
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ahhoy,
It is advisable to top up your tank when your fuel indicator is at the 1/4 level.
This is so as not to stress the fuel pump over the long term.
The higher the fuel level in your tank, the higher the pressure and the fuel pump need not work as hard.
Just imagine a water dispenser. When it is almost empty, you will notice that the water comes out slower.
An almost empty tank of petrol also means that all the dirt at the bottom of the fuel tank will be sucked by the fuel pump, but all these dirt will be filtered by the fuel filter which means you have to change your fuel filter more regularly.
Hi Clarence, thanks for the advice.
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wow u guys are the best... feel so enriched!! haha
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There are pros and cons on driving with a full tank or less than 1.2 tank.
Full tank
- Ensures your fuel tank will not rust
- Your fuel pump has an easier job due to the pressure from the fuel
- Heavier car which translates to a little higher fuel consumption (neg).
1/2 tank or less
- Lighter car since more economical
- Fuel tank may rust, but this is not an issue if you drive daily
- Fuel pump works harder
moral of the story? pump your petrol to full when empty! LOL
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There are pros and cons on driving with a full tank or less than 1.2 tank.
Full tank
- Ensures your fuel tank will not rust
- Your fuel pump has an easier job due to the pressure from the fuel
- Heavier car which translates to a little higher fuel consumption (neg).
1/2 tank or less
- Lighter car since more economical
- Fuel tank may rust, but this is not an issue if you drive daily
- Fuel pump works harder
What and where the logic that half tank fuel pump work harder ? Do you know where is the fuel pump located ?
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moral of the story? pump your petrol to full when empty! LOL
haha! i wanted to stick the "man" sticker on my fuel cap door during cny!
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Hi bro, dun worry, for the 1st bar, it normally to hit between 70 - 80 km for latio! After the 1/2 tank mark, the fuel needle will move quite slowly! I can actully hit 450-480km untill the Refill Tank Light lights up.
My Latio FC has been dropping quite drastically after each servicing. I just completed my 30K servicing. I noticed that the low fuel indicator normally lights up after 35Ltr and for me initially I have only hit about 420km. But now it has dropped significantly from 400km to 380km traveled. My driving pattern has not changed all these while. Yet the FC has. My calculation of FC is based on the mileage traveled/amount of fuel from last top up. It has been doing about 11.5km/ltr average but last few rounds dropped down to less then 11km. I used RON 92 for my fuel as I found that were no significant difference between the various grade. Complaining to the those technician doesn't seems to help much. Now I guess I am stuck with a lemon of a car. One thing I know for sure, my next car definitely won't be another Nissan.
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Perhaps you could request Tan Chong not to reset the ECU after each servicing so that your ECU does not have to re-learn your driving habits.
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There are pros and cons on driving with a full tank or less than 1.2 tank.
Full tank
- Ensures your fuel tank will not rust
- Your fuel pump has an easier job due to the pressure from the fuel
- Heavier car which translates to a little higher fuel consumption (neg).
1/2 tank or less
- Lighter car since more economical
- Fuel tank may rust, but this is not an issue if you drive daily
- Fuel pump works harder
correct me if i am wrong, but are you talking about a carburetor now?
buddy, fuel tanks now are made of PLASTIC, and fuel pump works at the same rate NO matter what.
and NO, fuller tank doesn't mean higher pressure.
dude, come back to 2010 man, it aint 1980 anymore.
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My Latio FC has been dropping quite drastically after each servicing. I just completed my 30K servicing. I noticed that the low fuel indicator normally lights up after 35Ltr and for me initially I have only hit about 420km. But now it has dropped significantly from 400km to 380km traveled. My driving pattern has not changed all these while. Yet the FC has. My calculation of FC is based on the mileage traveled/amount of fuel from last top up. It has been doing about 11.5km/ltr average but last few rounds dropped down to less then 11km. I used RON 92 for my fuel as I found that were no significant difference between the various grade. Complaining to the those technician doesn't seems to help much. Now I guess I am stuck with a lemon of a car. One thing I know for sure, my next car definitely won't be another Nissan.
what EO are you using and tire pressure and tire size?
exhaust leaking(loud exhaust) and is your airbox tight?
car loaded to brim at all times?
driving habits?
how heavy is your right foot?
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Hi Clarence, thanks for the advice.
take his advice with a pinch of salt.
i am sure he's just kidding half the time.
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what EO are you using and tire pressure and tire size? - The synthetic one that Nissan currently uses sorry cannot recall off hand the name, Fasflo I think
exhaust leaking(loud exhaust) and is your airbox tight? - Exhaust ok, airbox where is this located?
car loaded to brim at all times? - Load nothing in my booth
driving habits? - As per normal dun like to rev the engine always keeps between 2500 to 3000 max for rpm, I don't like overtaking either, this car is not known for its pick up power
how heavy is your right foot? - Very light I dun jam down the accelerator to pick up speed just let it cruise
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Helloz...
Just bought a Nissan Latio HB yesterday (2nd hand) and pump my first petrol at SPC 8000. I thought latio was kinda of Fuel Economic but for 1 bar of petrol i only manage to travel ard 70km. I travel on mostly highway today... is the 'brand' of petrol crucial to the FC??
Hi Shawnie! Hows the FC for ur car now! I just got my 2nd hand latio sport too! I pumped SPC 95 full tank and im totally shocked when my dad returned home with just 3/4 tank left and only 60km clocked!
I drove it today and it seems that i can travel more than 70km with just 3/4 of a bar. Really hop it gets better cos im still a student!
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how to check leak exhaust?
Any workshop to recommend?
Thks
what EO are you using and tire pressure and tire size?
exhaust leaking(loud exhaust) and is your airbox tight?
car loaded to brim at all times?
driving habits?
how heavy is your right foot?
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how to check leak exhaust?
Any workshop to recommend?
Thks
MAN EXHAUST at sin ming.
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MAN EXHAUST at sin ming.
Thanks bro
Suspect my exhaust leaking
My mid pipe keep hitting hump when go over it
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Thanks bro
Suspect my exhaust leaking
My mid pipe keep hitting hump when go over it
Mine always kena the curb when parking until fed up went back to TCM and they change it FOC for a harder spring for the suspension. But I thought if exhaust got lobang or leaking the sound from the exhaust will be very loud...??
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Hi Shawnie! Hows the FC for ur car now! I just got my 2nd hand latio sport too! I pumped SPC 95 full tank and im totally shocked when my dad returned home with just 3/4 tank left and only 60km clocked!
I drove it today and it seems that i can travel more than 70km with just 3/4 of a bar. Really hop it gets better cos im still a student!
I just got my 2nd hand latio sedan yesterday. I managed to clock about 150km when it reached 3/4 tank. I changed EO today, don't know got improvement.
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Hi Shawnie! Hows the FC for ur car now! I just got my 2nd hand latio sport too! I pumped SPC 95 full tank and im totally shocked when my dad returned home with just 3/4 tank left and only 60km clocked!
I drove it today and it seems that i can travel more than 70km with just 3/4 of a bar. Really hop it gets better cos im still a student!
Hi bro u practice more patience and use common sense during driving u would be able to get more milege out of ur latio :thumbsup: i got some tips which i posted sometime last year which seems to help me get pretty impressive F.C go read it up and it may help ur F.C to improve :thumbsup:
Btw attach is pic of my best 1/4 tank :yehyeh:
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Hi bro u practice more patience and use common sense during driving u would be able to get more milege out of ur latio :thumbsup: i got some tips which i posted sometime last year which seems to help me get pretty impressive F.C go read it up and it may help ur F.C to improve :thumbsup:
Btw attach is pic of my best 1/4 tank :yehyeh:
wow, very impressive. Hope i can achieve that.
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wow, very impressive. Hope i can achieve that.
hey bro if u got time try to read the whole thread of my link below and try to apply the method which i use i think u would be able to get better F.C :thumbsup:
http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=7240.0
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wow... that's really impressive... my best 1/4 tank only at 120km. so far attaining average of 12.5km/l
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Me too my 1/4 tank average around 120Km, 1/2 about 220Km and 3/4 around 360 to 380Km traveled. Thou last few rounds my 3/4 only hit 340Km or so.
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Hi bro u practice more patience and use common sense during driving u would be able to get more milege out of ur latio :thumbsup: i got some tips which i posted sometime last year which seems to help me get pretty impressive F.C go read it up and it may help ur F.C to improve :thumbsup:
Btw attach is pic of my best 1/4 tank :yehyeh:
Wow impressive bro, your Qing Gong reali power....can pass some skill on your light foot :thumbsup:
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you forget to reset ur meter reading issit it??
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Shi fu class man! only manage between 120 - 140 for 1/4 tank :(
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you forget to reset ur meter reading issit it??
Haha bro, we think alike :D
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you forget to reset ur meter reading issit it??
No leh bro i always make it a habit to reset my meter reading after i go pump full tank.....maybe my car is a lemon?
I wondering if i should try another record 1/4 tank but this time with aircon off? Maybe can get 300km? Than i can post the pic here again to terrorise u all hehehe :bleh:
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can let us be your passenger(s) to observe your driving technique?
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Hi bro u practice more patience and use common sense during driving u would be able to get more milege out of ur latio :thumbsup: i got some tips which i posted sometime last year which seems to help me get pretty impressive F.C go read it up and it may help ur F.C to improve :thumbsup:
Btw attach is pic of my best 1/4 tank :yehyeh:
your milage no horse run, no way i can achieve it :thumbsup:
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No leh bro i always make it a habit to reset my meter reading after i go pump full tank.....maybe my car is a lemon?
I wondering if i should try another record 1/4 tank but this time with aircon off? Maybe can get 300km? Than i can post the pic here again to terrorise u all hehehe :bleh:
I'm going to rob your ride if you succeed :/
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can let us be your passenger(s) to observe your driving technique?
i think i cannot show u all my technique becos after i show liao ppl know my car number and my car kanna rob by Nsman how? :bleh:
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i think i cannot show u all my technique becos after i show liao ppl know my car number and my car kanna rob by Nsman how? :bleh:
i wun tell. promise
smsing works as well
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Sorry tho say this and pouring cold water to some, to me this is pure BS
either fill Petrol until Brim + increase tyre pressure to 300Kpa? Pure suicide.
:pray:
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Sorry tho say this and pouring cold water to some, to me this is pure BS
either fill Petrol until Brim + increase tyre pressure to 300Kpa? Pure suicide.
:pray:
Bro why say sorry when u have done nothing wrong? Forum is a place for sharing of tips and helping one another for good of everyone right? If my tips were really to cause ppl to die than i should really be the person to apologise to everyone here for asking them to commit suicide right?
Ohh yes i do pump abit more petrol into my tank especially when i am in malaysia after the pump auto stop cos petrol there is cheap mar....would that cause my tank to explode or would any side effect happen Bro? Also increase of tyre pressure to 300kpa will cause tyre to explode or deform or spoil the suspension? The highest i ever pump for my tyres is 270kpa and i do not know why u mention increase tyre pressure to 300kpa isit ur assumption?
Bro Jliow or any other Bros pls enlighten me b4 someone really get killed because of my tips :pray: