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Title: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: tchekchuan on July 01, 2010, 10:36:03 AM
HI, can an our latio last us for 10 years? I heard friends driving latio who has spent a lot of money to replace their gearbox as well as the air con compressor etc....

my ride is less than 2 yrs old... and there are already problems such as steering coupling problem. (tok tok sound when i drive slow or reverse), raffling sound from my dashboard when in slow speed etc..

i have went TCM to change the steering coupling, but after a few months the problem came back to me again. This is minor problem lah. as for the raffling sound, i am not sure what is the problem...

how long can our gearbox and air con compressor last? i know it depends, but roughly leh?
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: jovially on July 01, 2010, 11:08:57 AM
I make a wrong move, thinking of changing to Latio may give me drive the car for 10 years.
My latio was about 7 months, steering coupling noise, raffling sound from the dashboard etc already happening.
Collected my car with a stain on the "ceiling" etc, get it replaced byTC and end up with here and there scratches.
I doubt we can drive for long esp with the known gearbox and air con compressor issues.


Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: clarence on July 01, 2010, 11:21:45 AM
Gearboxes issues, if due to manufacturing faults, should surface within the 3 yr warranty period.

Other than that, air con compressors are wear and tear parts.

If one expects NOT spend money to replace wear and tear parts, then it may be a better option to change car when the warranty period ends, but do expect a huge depreciation, which is way more expensive than replacing the worn out parts.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: valeon on July 01, 2010, 11:31:09 AM

Other cars dun hv wear and tear  :confused1:
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: Ying on July 01, 2010, 12:12:54 PM
I cross the 5 years mark. Still happy with it.

other than items stated for replacement on service manual, I changed these item due to wear and tear.

1) Two windor motor module. 
2) cooling coil.

Engine sound still good, drive still smooth. little stain and dent are due to human error, not the quality of the material or design problem. I think my Latio should be able to last more than 10 years.

 
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: crusty69 on July 01, 2010, 12:23:46 PM
dunno if it can last 10 yrs, but so far so gd.. coming to 4 yrs.
changed a few things here and there,, and now luv the car better than when I first bought it ..  :thumbsup:

i think its not of whether the car can last 10 yrs or not ( confirm will,..of coz need to replace certain things ) but
whether u can tahan the car for 10 yrs   :bleh: ( even with its funny funny sounds etc etc )

just my 2 cents ..
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: dsrio on July 01, 2010, 12:41:03 PM
i think sound here & there is normal for any car due to ageing, I am okay with minor fault such as steering coupling tat does not affect drive or safety, meaning you can still continue driving.

but to say the aircon compressor is due to wear & tear is a bit hard to digest, somemore right at the 3 year mark.

now praying my cvt can last  :pray:.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: kspchew on July 01, 2010, 01:20:37 PM
Mine 5yrs next month and below is the list of items replaced,

1) Both front and back brake pads/ shoes
2) Both front and back shocks absorbers
3) Fuel Pump
4) Front oil seals for brake calipers

and stilll having the tok tok sound and rattlings, other than that the car run fine.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: dsrio on July 01, 2010, 01:43:45 PM
imho, brake pads & shock absorbers are wear & tear items, every car also have to replace, should not factor in when considering whether latio can last 10 years or not  ::)
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: NSman on July 01, 2010, 01:54:56 PM
Latio ofcourse can last for 10 years, infact every cars can.

Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: tchekchuan on July 01, 2010, 02:06:14 PM
Thanks guy!

I intend to drive my latio till my COE is over.

I first bought this car pretty cheap, cos of the COE. Compared to now, i dont think can ever find this kind of price liao. haha...

When i first heard the tok tok sound within 6 months of my ride, i already very sian liao.. then after that heard this is a manufacturing fault by nissan.. lucky worse..... then..... the raffing sound ....double sian...... then... heard that latio air con compressor and many parts (not wear and tear parts) also not "lasting" .. triple sian.... and these parts are not cheap....

Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: NSman on July 01, 2010, 03:11:40 PM
me same as you, a poor guy owning a car, 10 years loan, so have to drive till COE ends :p

my almost 4 yrs ride having tic tic tok sounds every where, rear leather seat rubbing sound, bodykit sound, road wind noise, tyre noise, rattle sound from dashboard etc... luckily my ride serve me well, air-con very cold, no major problem or replacement yet (touchwood).. Owning a car is laddat lah, worry about this & that, rattle lah, wear & tear lah, servicing lah, petrol price lah, avoid getting into accidents alh etc... don't think so much lor.. you will be happier :D cheers
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: tchekchuan on July 01, 2010, 03:22:44 PM
Yes bro,

Imagine we paid ten of thousands of dollars and getting this kind of quality (of cos cannot compared to BMW la)haha..

I used to drive nissan sunny for 5 years, and it does not give me any problem at all. other than the high FC and ruggish engine, i think this car is good.

Sigh, i think i will get the steering coupling and the raffling problem fix before my warranty ends.

Can you or anyone advise:
1)What is "Front lower arm bush"?
2)COuld this be one of the problem that cause the tok tok sound?
2)If i ask TCM to replace, will they change for me FOC?
4) What about raffling?
5)) what could cause this raffing noise?

paisay, ask too much questions. :) hope you can enlighten me

me same as you, a poor guy owning a car, 10 years loan, so have to drive till COE ends :p

my almost 4 yrs ride having tic tic tok sounds every where, rear leather seat rubbing sound, bodykit sound, road wind noise, tyre noise, rattle sound from dashboard etc... luckily my ride serve me well, air-con very cold, no major problem or replacement yet (touchwood).. Owning a car is laddat lah, worry about this & that, rattle lah, wear & tear lah, servicing lah, petrol price lah, avoid getting into accidents alh etc... don't think so much lor.. you will be happier :D cheers
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: spiff on July 01, 2010, 03:40:18 PM
I think this question is dependent on some questions:

1) How well you maintain your care....servicing etc...
2) How to treat and drive your car

These 2 factors will affect the life span of yr car in general.

However, there are alwasy wear and tear parts which all cars will have to change, they are:
1) Air Con compressor and coil etc....
2) Brakes system ..wear and tear
3) gears.......4AT should not be a problem..remember to service and change yr ATF fluid at intervals....


Thanks and have a nice day
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: josho on July 01, 2010, 09:30:38 PM
All cars can run for 10 years or more. Do not worry so much because it depend on how you take care of your car.

A lot of people always push their to workshop to take care, but do they study what is this, that etc? =) Im still learning tho. =)

Ride coming 5 years. =) Still working fine  :devil2:
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: clarence on July 02, 2010, 12:36:53 PM
It is worth renewing COE for Latio when the time comes, if COE prices are reasonable.

Afterall, Latio scrap value is a pathetic $7,000. Worth foregoing this scrap value to renew COE, if prices of new cars continue to escalate with COE prices and the Jap yen heading North.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: PTC77 on July 02, 2010, 01:01:46 PM
Wonder what is the body value of latio sports if scrap now?  :confused1:
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: jefferey on July 03, 2010, 06:32:04 PM
juz got mine bout 2mths ago, dashboard rattling, air cond suddenly cold suddenly warm... other than that no prob..

really putting high hope in this car, coz i've rejected competitors like h and t...

is latio part very rare in da market? other than tcm no waye of sourcing other place? some parts from renault?
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: dsrio on July 05, 2010, 08:47:05 AM
Wonder what is the body value of latio sports if scrap now?  :confused1:

mine is sedan and highest offer is 13k above paper value, this is provided i buy their car, so sell high buy high  :bleh:
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: dsrio on July 05, 2010, 08:48:49 AM
juz got mine bout 2mths ago, dashboard rattling, air cond suddenly cold suddenly warm... other than that no prob..

really putting high hope in this car, coz i've rejected competitors like h and t...

is latio part very rare in da market? other than tcm no waye of sourcing other place? some parts from renault?

not tat rare i think, just expensive if you repair at TCM, go outside workshop can get much cheaper.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: scoobydoo on July 05, 2010, 11:45:01 AM
juz got mine bout 2mths ago, dashboard rattling, air cond suddenly cold suddenly warm... other than that no prob..
Many Latio have this rattling (or squeaking) sound at dashboard, seats & door panels problem... my dashboard problem is kinda solved after TCM applied insulation tapes between the adjoining gaps. I sent car in 3 times (left car there for 2 days on 3rd time during my 5k servicing), job done under warranty. Still working on insulating the door panels.

From the forums, I realised that Latio's designers (from Renault?) purposely "split" the usually 1-pieced dashboard into multiple pieces so that workshop can do sectional replacement; i.e. replacing only the damaged section instead of changing the whole dashboard. While the idea is good, the design/materials used seem no so good… resulting in undesirable sound generated when movable parts at sectional joints rub against each other (when car goes over uneven ground), a problem not usually found in 1-piece dashboards (new cars). If you can prevent the "smootching", problem solved until the insulation wears off.
IMO, the door panels are pretty flimsy (plasticky and thin) and quite vibration friendly. That’s probably a result of cost cutting (used the more expensive suede but cut other areas) so that the car may be sold at more competitive prices. Dunno about the cheaper kim-chi cars but my friends' tong-yum Toyotas don’t seem to have this problem… but they have other issues to sort out; every car has its inherent issues  :mad:
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: crusty69 on July 05, 2010, 09:02:43 PM
Many Latio have this rattling (or squeaking) sound at dashboard, seats & door panels problem... my dashboard problem is kinda solved after TCM applied insulation tapes between the adjoining gaps. I sent car in 3 times (left car there for 2 days on 3rd time during my 5k servicing), job done under warranty. Still working on insulating the door panels.

From the forums, I realised that Latio's designers (from Renault?) purposely "split" the usually 1-pieced dashboard into multiple pieces so that workshop can do sectional replacement; i.e. replacing only the damaged section instead of changing the whole dashboard. While the idea is good, the design/materials used seem no so good… resulting in undesirable sound generated when movable parts at sectional joints rub against each other (when car goes over uneven ground), a problem not usually found in 1-piece dashboards (new cars). If you can prevent the "smootching", problem solved until the insulation wears off.
IMO, the door panels are pretty flimsy (plasticky and thin) and quite vibration friendly. That’s probably a result of cost cutting (used the more expensive suede but cut other areas) so that the car may be sold at more competitive prices. Dunno about the cheaper kim-chi cars but my friends' tong-yum Toyotas don’t seem to have this problem… but they have other issues to sort out; every car has its inherent issues  :mad:


as for me, i got quite a good solution to the rattling sounds,.......






just blast the music,.. :bleh:
it works for me heheheh  :D
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: nakshire on July 05, 2010, 09:04:39 PM
change ur exos. big big one. rattling sound also covered. lol! :machinegun: :gun_bandana: :sniper: :doubleguns: :clap:
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: hwlee on July 05, 2010, 09:26:42 PM
Nakshire, convert to turbo charged...use the Turbo and SQV to covered the sound. LOL
p/s: kyorei82 is selling the turbo kit.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: nakshire on July 05, 2010, 09:29:47 PM
Nakshire, convert to turbo charged...use the Turbo and SQV to covered the sound. LOL
p/s: kyorei82 is selling the turbo kit.

BLEH!
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: Ying on July 06, 2010, 10:47:47 AM
for those owner with Latio over 100k or over 5 years, which workshop you go for your major servicing? I don't like some workshop who never put cover on your seat and dirty your steering with their oily hands.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: scoobydoo on July 06, 2010, 11:56:54 AM
change ur exos. big big one. rattling sound also covered. lol! :machinegun: :gun_bandana: :sniper: :doubleguns: :clap:
for one moment i tot someone's gonna suggest forget about ICE, just get a solid pair of noise cancellation headphones with ipod... cancels all noise, including other car's honking  :devil2:
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: hwlee on July 06, 2010, 01:24:32 PM
for one moment i tot someone's gonna suggest forget about ICE, just get a solid pair of noise cancellation headphones with ipod... cancels all noise, including other car's honking  :devil2:
This is really crazy. Quite dangerous to yourself and other road user.
I rather you and all your passengers put on a full face racing helmet with noise cancellation+intercom feature. then you drive with all windows opened. So at least you still aware the situation outside your car.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: NSman on July 06, 2010, 04:09:16 PM
you guys are drifting too far... lol :Offtopic:
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: pizzaboy on July 07, 2010, 12:26:44 AM
any car can last 10 yrs even p.r.c cars its just how much u gonna spend to maintain the car in her lifespan of a decade. but i believe sushi cars can easily be driven for 2x renewal of coe just look at those old datsun, sunny, corolla, lancer all still running strong & bold on our sunny shore...
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: crusty69 on July 07, 2010, 12:47:05 AM
for those owner with Latio over 100k or over 5 years, which workshop you go for your major servicing? I don't like some workshop who never put cover on your seat and dirty your steering with their oily hands.

my car now 110k . went to autoaid at toh guan last week to chg my CVT fluid and alternator chged,... they are very knowledgeable in latio..they are former TCM mechanics,..pricing reasonable,... I'll be gng to them for my next servicings ,...

anyways,..will not be letting go of my for another 4 yrs or more,... very happy with the perf and now mileage,... weird,.. been getting around 280 at half tank,..510km and light still havent come out ( my wife too scared,.. forced to me fill up hahaha ) ,...whereas prev struggled to get 180 at half,... and 1/4 mark can only get 280 - 300 and best of all, all these are after chging to 17" rims and open pod,....  :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: scoobydoo on July 07, 2010, 12:05:26 PM
any car can last 10 yrs
totally agree... its a matter of repairing or changing the defective/worn/damaged parts.
in some sense, other than the chassis, almost the "whole" car can be replaced as long as parts are available; from the engine to gearbox, from upholstery to body panels, etc etc.
but the costs may not be worthwhile, as the commonly used phrase "beyond economical repair" says it all.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: tchekchuan on July 07, 2010, 04:20:05 PM
Thanks guys.. Ya , i understand car can last 10 years.. haha...

what i mean is... is latio parts lasting (gearbox, engine, aircon, alternator etc or any expensive parts which cannot tahan for 10 years one)?

thanks for your opinion and contribution... :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: althor on July 07, 2010, 04:49:48 PM
Latio parts seems lasting up to now, although mine is low mileage, feel the car is reliable and economical still.
Mine is 5 years old, so far if due to defect is only change steering coupling once. Other stuffs due wear and tear are tyres, battery, air con filters, all changed thrice. Air filter, CVT fluid, beltings, wipers, all changed once.

Hope that by regular servicing and normal parts replacement, the car can last another 5 years.  Other than that, think nothing much i could do if car got design flaws or inherent problems.

Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: spiff on August 02, 2010, 12:08:37 PM
Yes I believe it can last 10 years. Altough my car is only 2 years plus, I remember I bought another brand previously new, if i compare latio and the previous brand i bought new, i can tell that latio is easily better condition than the other car i bought at 2 yrs plus.

My point is i can feel that latio is more solidly made with better quality in comparision with other brand I owned before.

Good car.....not because i owned one but based on comparisons with other 1.5/1.6 cars i owned previously.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: Ying on August 02, 2010, 03:10:35 PM
Thanks guys.. Ya , i understand car can last 10 years.. haha...

what i mean is... is latio parts lasting (gearbox, engine, aircon, alternator etc or any expensive parts which cannot tahan for 10 years one)?

thanks for your opinion and contribution... :yehyeh:

Mine is 05 CVT. Other than regular wear and tear item, here are the damage stock parts I replaced when car cross 5 years old.


1) Auto door lock module - 2 unit
2) Air Cond coil
3) rear brake pump - one pair

still ok for a while but going to change them soon or later
1) front shock rubber damper - one side drop down, the other crake.
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: Dex1999 on August 02, 2010, 07:56:36 PM
aircon - regular service might able to last 10yrs
gear box - driver dependant...
Title: Re: Can latio last for 10 years?
Post by: Novellus Legends on August 02, 2010, 09:53:12 PM
I know i will change my shocks n susp in 1 or 2 years time when my ride is 5 yr old..then swap my dad ride and change to next gen civic or hybrid KOUP, once latio hit 10yr old, swap the latio and go for a gd hybrid ride by then around 2017..kekek

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