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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: remus on May 07, 2008, 08:59:42 AM
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Read from another forum that CVT engine is more fuel efficient if driven in such manner..
http://sgforums.com/forums/1962/topics/126888 (http://sgforums.com/forums/1962/topics/126888)
Wonder if it works for similar normal AT sedan? Been getting very poor FC recently despite driving like a ah pek - keeping constantly abt 2000rpm... Only manage to achieve barely 200km at half tank mark... :confused1: :confused1:
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Read from another forum that CVT engine is more fuel efficient if driven in such manner..
http://sgforums.com/forums/1962/topics/126888 (http://sgforums.com/forums/1962/topics/126888)
Wonder if it works for similar normal AT sedan? Been getting very poor FC recently despite driving like a ah pek - keeping constantly abt 2000rpm... Only manage to achieve barely 200km at half tank mark... :confused1: :confused1:
Two thumbs up bro~!!..me also same as yours haha....
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no worry i also in this cat..... :yehyeh:
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So bottomline - 2500 rpm is where we should be hit instead of 2000 rpm...should try this and let you all know cos I'm those that having a FC of 10.5KM/L
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Read from another forum that CVT engine is more fuel efficient if driven in such manner..
http://sgforums.com/forums/1962/topics/126888 (http://sgforums.com/forums/1962/topics/126888)
Wonder if it works for similar normal AT sedan? Been getting very poor FC recently despite driving like a ah pek - keeping constantly abt 2000rpm... Only manage to achieve barely 200km at half tank mark... :confused1: :confused1:
Thanks for sharing the information, Bro. Mine is a CVT. I used to get between 13+ to 14+ per litre. However, after my first servicing, it has dropped to 12+ to 13+. But what I practice is the "commonly overlooked fact" as mentioned in that link. Many bro/sis here advised that there isn't much point in accelerating beyond 2K rpm at pick-up, which is what I practise. Shall try to do the 2.5K rpm and see if the FC improves.
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Hmm... I left 2 bar to E. Mileage: 502Km. 14.5km/l. Wondering if I can achieve 16km/l tho :thumbsup:
Somemore been 2nd hand car for 3yr, my result is relatively still acceptable. :w00t:
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Hmm... I left 2 bar to E. Mileage: 502Km. 14.5km/l. Wondering if I can achieve 16km/l tho :thumbsup:
Somemore been 2nd hand car for 3yr, my result is relatively still acceptable. :w00t:
Damn...Envy U
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Hmm... I left 2 bar to E. Mileage: 502Km. 14.5km/l. Wondering if I can achieve 16km/l tho :thumbsup:
Somemore been 2nd hand car for 3yr, my result is relatively still acceptable. :w00t:
Hi Bro, do you belong to the 2k rpm group or the 2.5k rpm group all these while? If I can get 14.5km/l consistently, good enough for me liao. Anything beyond will be added bonus!
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Nowadays can hit 11km/l i already hide one corner and laugh loud loud liao man.... :crycry:
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Nowadays can hit 11km/l i already hide one corner and laugh loud loud liao man.... :crycry:
U right leg getting more powerful?? :devil2:
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U right leg getting more powerful?? :devil2:
No lah bro....eat too much lately...leg getting heavier...cant deny gravitional force you know...hahaha.... :bleh:
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My last 3 pumps has been as below:
398.7 km @ 26.79 litre -> 14.8 kml
429.3 km @ 30.25 litre -> 14.2 kml
435.3 km @ 30.01 litre -> 14.5 kml
Petrol used: Shell 95
At half mark indicator, usually mileage is around 200 to 220 km. Method used:
1) Keep at max 2000 rpm
2) Aircon most of the time minimum at 24 degree and above.
Highway/city: 80/20
I think half mark fuel indicator = 45 litre tank / 2 is not correct one. If calculate this way, best is 220/22.5 litre is only 9.9 kml nia. Best is go and pump petrol and see how much is actually pumped is the most accurate.
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No lah bro....eat too much lately...leg getting heavier...cant deny gravitional force you know...hahaha.... :bleh:
Hahaha :bleh:
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My last 3 pumps has been as below:
398.7 km @ 26.79 litre -> 14.8 kml
429.3 km @ 30.25 litre -> 14.2 kml
435.3 km @ 30.01 litre -> 14.5 kml
Petrol used: Shell 95
At half mark indicator, usually mileage is around 200 to 220 km. Method used:
1) Keep at max 2000 rpm
2) Aircon most of the time minimum at 24 degree and above.
Highway/city: 80/20
I think half mark fuel indicator = 45 litre tank / 2 is not correct one. If calculate this way, best is 220/22.5 litre is only 9.9 kml nia. Best is go and pump petrol and see how much is actually pumped is the most accurate.
Half mark indicator is not accurate because of reserve tank. If you try the method mentioned in the above link, maybe you can reach 15+. No harm trying for a tank or two.
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Nowadays can hit 11km/l i already hide one corner and laugh loud loud liao man.... :crycry:
I thought Latio FC cannot be that bad leh. Last time my drinker Auto Sunny also can get 10.5 easily. At times, just above 11.
Seems like there are more Lations who can reach > 14 than those who get below 11. Mine mostly 12+ to 13+.
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I thought Latio FC cannot be that bad leh. Last time my drinker Auto Sunny also can get 10.5 easily. At times, just above 11.
Seems like there are more Lations who can reach > 14 than those who get below 11. Mine mostly 12+ to 13+.
haha no lah bro.....FC varies depend on yr driving route,how hard u ramp, wheels,etc...alot of factors one lah...mine initally oso getting 14km/l de....after changing my route due to work location...it drops..haha... :thumbsup:..anyway moe imptis enjoy yr ride.. :yehyeh:
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Hi Bro, do you belong to the 2k rpm group or the 2.5k rpm group all these while? If I can get 14.5km/l consistently, good enough for me liao. Anything beyond will be added bonus!
Should be 2k, I dun go until 2.5k unless I need to go faster. I just change from Esso 8000 to 5000, so I got to monitor this time. :cool2:
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Tough to whack to 2.5K leh..I whack til 2.2k already like racerboy...making me like want to race with everyone.
Me no racer.
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Next time, try to listen to your engine note when you drive. You will notice the difference in sound from 2k and 2.2k.
I always ensure that the engine dun 'rev' up too much when I drive. I am getting about 12.5-13km/l based on 70HW/30CT driving. Note to mentioned I have installed both iTune spark spec 1 and 2 (no switch) permanently on.
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Next time, try to listen to your engine note when you drive. You will notice the difference in sound from 2k and 2.2k.
I always ensure that the engine dun 'rev' up too much when I drive. I am getting about 12.5-13km/l based on 70HW/30CT driving. Note to mentioned I have installed both iTune spark spec 1 and 2 (no switch) permanently on.
Me yet to install itune ye but at 2.2k i can hear the engine start to roar...not to mention at 2.5k...
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sorry to ask but iTune is what? How much? will void warranty?
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sorry to ask but iTune is what? How much? will void warranty?
Look for Daniel Best n I don't think it will void our warranty...
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Hey guys,
Do you feel that the brand of petrol used affects your FC for your ride?
I alternate between 9500 @ Esso & Silver Techron @ Caltex, and get between 13-14km/l for the better part of my ride's first year... (FYI, I try not to rev beyond 2,000RPM)
Tried using SPC for awhile, but felt that pick-up wasn't smooth, and went back to the 2 above-mentioned brands...
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Hey guys,
Do you feel that the brand of petrol used affects your FC for your ride?
I alternate between 9500 @ Esso & Silver Techron @ Caltex, and get between 13-14km/l for the better part of my ride's first year... (FYI, I try not to rev beyond 2,000RPM)
Tried using SPC for awhile, but felt that pick-up wasn't smooth, and went back to the 2 above-mentioned brands...
That's the same result I got when I use SPC.
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Look for Daniel Best n I don't think it will void our warranty...
No mention during all my servicing with TCM but they do KPKB my Pivot VS....
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No mention during all my servicing with TCM but they do KPKB my Pivot VS....
During my servicing with them, they didn't say anything le...
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sorry ah.. wat is KPKB :P ???
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sorry ah.. wat is KPKB :P ???
Hokkien for cry father cry mother
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Orhh.. I see :thumbsup:
Why are they so against Pivot VS?? me just installed the purple Razin + 5 pt grounding + ignition earth + Broquet B30 leh.. donno will have problem with them anot..
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Orhh.. I see :thumbsup:
Why are they so against Pivot VS?? me just installed the purple Razin + 5 pt grounding + ignition earth + Broquet B30 leh.. donno will have problem with them anot..
:blink:
As mentioned, I got no problem with mine.
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hi everyone.
i have been monitor my fc for quite some time.
those using esso, you can try switching to shell.
my engine now more smooth and quiet after the switch.
and most importantly fc is very much better.
i am now doing a test.
try to pump petrol slowly.
seem like you will get exact 1L as measure by the pump.
I do believe that the pump will suck back vapor during pumping because the flow is too fast thus creating a lot of vapor.
:yehyeh:
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hi everyone.
i have been monitor my fc for quite some time.
those using esso, you can try switching to shell.
my engine now more smooth and quiet after the switch.
and most importantly fc is very much better.
i am now doing a test.
try to pump petrol slowly.
seem like you will get exact 1L as measure by the pump.
I do believe that the pump will suck back vapor during pumping because the flow is too fast thus creating a lot of vapor.
:yehyeh:
:scared: i usually let the attendant pump... Im using Esso tho. Hows ur FC now?
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hi everyone.
i have been monitor my fc for quite some time.
those using esso, you can try switching to shell.
my engine now more smooth and quiet after the switch.
and most importantly fc is very much better.
i am now doing a test.
try to pump petrol slowly.
seem like you will get exact 1L as measure by the pump.
I do believe that the pump will suck back vapor during pumping because the flow is too fast thus creating a lot of vapor.
:yehyeh:
I think next time i try pump myself and monitor the fc again.
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Me yet to install itune ye but at 2.2k i can hear the engine start to roar...not to mention at 2.5k...
u shd try the itune products.. :thumbsup: now i step lighter on my gas but the rpm goes up faster.. better pick up w/o losing good fc. :yehyeh:
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Driving habits and route are the two most significant factors.
My colleague gets 19+km/L from 4AT sedan. Mine varies between 14km/L to 20+km/L for CVT hatchback. Have a friend who routinely nets 18+km/L on his Sunny 5MT. And I used to be able to get 15+km/L tanks on a Sunny 4AT (doing 75%HW). It pays to drive like granny...
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Driving habits and route are the two most significant factors.
My colleague gets 19+km/L from 4AT sedan. Mine varies between 14km/L to 20+km/L for CVT hatchback. Have a friend who routinely nets 18+km/L on his Sunny 5MT. And I used to be able to get 15+km/L tanks on a Sunny 4AT (doing 75%HW). It pays to drive like granny...
WAh faint... i thought mine sometimes high 11 to low 13 very good already.. but 19km ?!?!.. Btw a personal question, 4at people, what is ur rpm at 90km? mine like already 2.3k rpm
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yes. at 90km/h, my rpm is abt 2.2-2.3k also
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:scared: i usually let the attendant pump... Im using Esso tho. Hows ur FC now?
I hae change my rim immediately after i got my car.
so i am on 16 inch rim.
after changing to shell petrol i am getting 13-14 km/L
before that was 11-12 km/L
:yehyeh:
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Driving habits and route are the two most significant factors.
My colleague gets 19+km/L from 4AT sedan. Mine varies between 14km/L to 20+km/L for CVT hatchback. Have a friend who routinely nets 18+km/L on his Sunny 5MT. And I used to be able to get 15+km/L tanks on a Sunny 4AT (doing 75%HW). It pays to drive like granny...
19km/l? .....!!!! and yours 14km/L to 20+km/L for CVT hatchback??? {lease share wz us yr driving style leh...
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i have been monitoring the FC for past few mths.
notice that highway/city driving does make a lot of diff.
my usual route is 90/10 (city/highway) and FC is always around 11/L.
however, if i drive highway during that mth for just 2/3 dys, FC improves to 13/14 for that mth. no change in driving pattern.
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I guess that City driving make the FC worse as we pick up and stop always. Highway is more or less at the same speed. :bleh:
However, 14km/l is consider good, but 19km??? :thumbsup: Did you change air filter, put on VS to improve on FC?? That's ultimate unbelievable! :scared: :scared: :scared:
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Driving habits and route are the two most significant factors.
My colleague gets 19+km/L from 4AT sedan. Mine varies between 14km/L to 20+km/L for CVT hatchback. Have a friend who routinely nets 18+km/L on his Sunny 5MT. And I used to be able to get 15+km/L tanks on a Sunny 4AT (doing 75%HW). It pays to drive like granny...
Never heard of latio can go 20+km/litre. Even much better than the spec (which itself tend to overstate the FC as it uses ideal road condition measuring).
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Never heard of latio can go 20+km/litre. Even much better than the spec (which itself tend to overstate the FC as it uses ideal road condition measuring).
can leh, y not? i thk i ever hit 19km/l b4 but not often.
recently, fc drop to 11km/l.
sigh
is abt to service my 17km now. i service my 10km at 11km+, next service is at 16.4k. now is 17.4km already.
still have not decide whether go to service at tcm (pkg b right?), it is so ex, S$349 for donno what kind of service they will give to my ride!!!!
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can leh, y not? i thk i ever hit 19km/l b4 but not often.
recently, fc drop to 11km/l.
sigh
is abt to service my 17km now. i service my 10km at 11km+, next service is at 16.4k. now is 17.4km already.
still have not decide whether go to service at tcm (pkg b right?), it is so ex, S$349 for donno what kind of service they will give to my ride!!!!
Why your FC vary so much? Over 40% leh.
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Similiar to your driving patterns, I am 80% city/20% highway, getting almost 12km/L. If 50% city, it will be almost 13km/L.
i have been monitoring the FC for past few mths.
notice that highway/city driving does make a lot of diff.
my usual route is 90/10 (city/highway) and FC is always around 11/L.
however, if i drive highway during that mth for just 2/3 dys, FC improves to 13/14 for that mth. no change in driving pattern.
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Similiar to your driving patterns, I am 80% city/20% highway, getting almost 12km/L. If 50% city, it will be almost 13km/L.
Your 80% city gives 12km/L, 50% city gives 13km/L. 30% difference in city improves by only 1 km. What FC do you think you will get if 10% city and 90% HW?
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I drove to Genting last yr. I think its 1%city 99% highway, FC was 13.5km/L. Was driving @ 170km/h for abt 80% of the HW.
Your 80% city gives 12km/L, 50% city gives 13km/L. 30% difference in city improves by only 1 km. What FC do you think you will get if 10% city and 90% HW?
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I drove to Genting last yr. I think its 1%city 99% highway, FC was 13.5km/L. Was driving @ 170km/h for abt 80% of the HW.
Everything stock ? :blink:
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yes, everything stock except 17" rim.
hatchback w/sunroof
Everything stock ? :blink:
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I drove to Genting last yr. I think its 1%city 99% highway, FC was 13.5km/L. Was driving @ 170km/h for abt 80% of the HW.
At 170km/hr, was the engine very loud and do you feel the car stable or floating liao? (yet to try that speed)
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Thanks for sharing the information, Bro. Mine is a CVT. I used to get between 13+ to 14+ per litre. However, after my first servicing, it has dropped to 12+ to 13+. But what I practice is the "commonly overlooked fact" as mentioned in that link. Many bro/sis here advised that there isn't much point in accelerating beyond 2K rpm at pick-up, which is what I practise. Shall try to do the 2.5K rpm and see if the FC improves.
Had tried to rev higher based on the first posting in this thread for my last tank. The FC is better. Managed to get 1.5km more per litre (but not sure if the improve FC is because of the higher rev).
Just sharing my experiment result here.
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small Jap car sure float :) Starts @ abt 150kmh. RPM is abt 5 - 5.5k I think. It is definately noisier than usual and i was hoping it can be faster.
Used to ride bike beyond 170kph so handling to me isnt an issue. Pls try it within your limits, safety 1st!
Had tried to rev higher based on the first posting in this thread for my last tank. The FC is better. Managed to get 1.5km more per litre (but not sure if the improve FC is because of the higher rev).
Just sharing my experiment result here.
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small Jap car sure float :) Starts @ abt 150kmh. RPM is abt 5 - 5.5k I think. It is definately noisier than usual and i was hoping it can be faster.
Used to ride bike beyond 170kph so handling to me isnt an issue. Pls try it within your limits, safety 1st!
Ya, agree! Safety First!
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Had tried to rev higher based on the first posting in this thread for my last tank. The FC is better. Managed to get 1.5km more per litre (but not sure if the improve FC is because of the higher rev).
Just sharing my experiment result here.
I did the same thing too.. I hope to get above 500Km this time... But as Im using 95 now, I dunno if that's the cause of it as well. :confused1:
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I start to lose interest to track FC...jsut drive and enjoy my lovely Latio which is a very comfortable car to drive.
Rev hard or not, should let the mood decide. :devil2:
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I start to lose interest to track FC...jsut drive and enjoy my lovely Latio which is a very comfortable car to drive.
Rev hard or not, should let the mood decide. :devil2:
True enough.. feeling comfortable is imptnt. I had to monitor because of the age. ::) So far so good... haha
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True enough.. feeling comfortable is imptnt. I had to monitor because of the age. ::) So far so good... haha
I'm getting 10.5km/l...since the day I got my ride...guess this is the FC for me to accept, any better will be a Bonus.
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I start to lose interest to track FC...jsut drive and enjoy my lovely Latio which is a very comfortable car to drive.
Rev hard or not, should let the mood decide. :devil2:
ha ha, so you starting to get tired eh? :devil2:
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ha ha, so you starting to get tired eh? :devil2:
Not that but felt that buying the car should be enjoying it rather then to count FC, thinking of way to get the best FC, change driving patterns just to get a better FC...it more like a drag then enjoying my car ride.
Yes, a better FC means a happy wallet but having to go thru all he above...i rather not. :cool2:
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Not that but felt that buying the car should be enjoying it rather then to count FC, thinking of way to get the best FC, change driving patterns just to get a better FC...it more like a drag then enjoying my car ride.
Yes, a better FC means a happy wallet but having to go thru all he above...i rather not. :cool2:
Getting 1 or 2 km per litre will not make a lot of difference for an average user. Some ppl may not agree, but I do find it fun (at least for now) to see how good the FC I can achieve. See how long I 'enjoy' this tracking. Till then will I stop tracking. Just like my former ride, I also tracked during the initial months. After that, who cares!
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Not that but felt that buying the car should be enjoying it rather then to count FC, thinking of way to get the best FC, change driving patterns just to get a better FC...it more like a drag then enjoying my car ride.
Yes, a better FC means a happy wallet but having to go thru all he above...i rather not. :cool2:
Yep, when people talk about their FC status, I already gave up long ago. Most important, enjoy your ride. :D
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Yep, when people talk about their FC status, I already gave up long ago. Most important, enjoy your ride. :D
It's alright to talk about it. Just don't be obsessed can liao. To each his own.
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just pumped today. Moving faster @ 2.5k rpm isnt reeally making a difference for me.
My FC is still fairly consistent @ 11.9+km/L
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just pumped today. Moving faster @ 2.5k rpm isnt reeally making a difference for me.
My FC is still fairly consistent @ 11.9+km/L
Think buy car also heng heng type. Theoretically, all latio are the same. Yet the same mod can have difference effect on different cars of the same made and model. I suppose it is the same here. Same practice but result vary lor.
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Think buy car also heng heng type. Theoretically, all latio are the same. Yet the same mod can have difference effect on different cars of the same made and model. I suppose it is the same here. Same practice but result vary lor.
Yup Yup...totally agree bro... :thumbsup:
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Getting 1 or 2 km per litre will not make a lot of difference for an average user. Some ppl may not agree, but I do find it fun (at least for now) to see how good the FC I can achieve. See how long I 'enjoy' this tracking. Till then will I stop tracking. Just like my former ride, I also tracked during the initial months. After that, who cares!
Hahahah...like wise.
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Yep, when people talk about their FC status, I already gave up long ago. Most important, enjoy your ride. :D
Correcto...just enjoy the pleasure of driving a Latio, been driving Nissan for a long time and by far for me, this is the most comfort car I ever had. :thumbsup:
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I got 12.6km/L on the immediate next top-up. City 40%, HW 60%
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Correcto...just enjoy the pleasure of driving a Latio, been driving Nissan for a long time and by far for me, this is the most comfort car I ever had. :thumbsup:
Same here! Although previous ride does not owned by me but this comfort is really great.
What kinda car will you look into if you want to upgrade. :cool2:
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Same here! Although previous ride does not owned by me but this comfort is really great.
What kinda car will you look into if you want to upgrade. :cool2:
A car that let driver have the comfort, not abt which or what brand.
A Drver Car :thumbsup:
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Never heard of latio can go 20+km/litre. Even much better than the spec (which itself tend to overstate the FC as it uses ideal road condition measuring).
It really can be done... You just have to make sure that you select driving conditions that are more favourable than specified in the 10-15 mode test. Here's what I find works in my favour and for my totally stock condition Latio CVT hatchback (how can they call it Sport...???!?):
* Long trips (35+km per trip during work days) minimize warm up hits (since lots of fuel is being dumped during warm up to get the catalytic converters into operating range and warm up time is required for transmission fluid before torque converter lockup is permitted).
* A 70~75% HW ratio certainly helps.
* Slowing down on the expressway helps. If you drive at a constant 80km/h, you will easily get MUCH better FC than the guy doing 120km/h.
* Unlike most folks advocating more throttle for efficient acceleration, I tend to use a steady gentle throttle to accelerate. This encourages the CVT to select the highest possible gear ratio. You may not be able to tolerate such gentle acceleration.
* Avoid braking unecessarily. Keep ample buffer space in front so you can just lift your foot off the throttle if you need to slow down, instead of having to hit the brakes. Conservation of momentum is the key. Avoid accelerating towards red lights. Coast in N if you are far from the lights and you know it will still be red. Better still time it so it will turn green by the time you get there.
* Inflate your tyres and check their pressure regularly. Tan Chong mechanics like to drop your tyre pressures to 200kPa after servicing the car to give you a magic carpet ride with a more "solid" steering feel. I keep my pressures at 250kPa/230kPa for lower rolling resistance and lower steering effort (less juice required for electric power steering). The downside is a harsher ride and a tendency to have to pay more attention to your steering.
* Switch off the A/C and crack the windows open 2 inches if you are in town and it's early morning or night. If I really need the A/C, I keep it at 27~29C with fan at 1 (don't laugh, it works for me). Just enough not to break into a sweat.
* Switch off the engine when stuck at those terrible traffic junctions that stay red for minutes. When waiting to pick someone up, turn off the engine and wait outside the car.
* Keep your air filter clean (replace more often than Tan Chong does). You can get new ones from the Nissan stockists and change them easily.
* Don't use anything more viscous than 5W30 for engine oil.
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whats the size of your tyres? mine is 215/45/R17 so should i use 250/230 as well?
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whats the size of your tyres? mine is 215/45/R17 so should i use 250/230 as well?
I'm on stock tyres and rims. Not an expert, so I can't say for sure, but I can share my own opinions ;-). IMHO, overinflation is less dangerous than underinflation for 4 reasons:
* The extent to which tyres hang onto the rims is somewhat related to tyre pressure.
* Underinflation tends to cause uneven wear FAR MORE easily than overinflation.
* Underinflation may result in uneven, poor contact patch profiles when moving over rain soaked surfaces.
* Underinflation results in higher side wall temperatures during sustained highway drives because the side wall deforms much more than when inflated to proper pressures.
I'll skip the disadvantages ;-).
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How often do you guys press the sports button (CVT) ?
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Think buy car also heng heng type. Theoretically, all latio are the same. Yet the same mod can have difference effect on different cars of the same made and model. I suppose it is the same here. Same practice but result vary lor.
Working with in a manufacturing company, I learn to accept that not all things are built the same even though they are the same model. Depending on the Nissan process control capability, there'll always be Latio with FC at the lower end, the lucky owner will have FC a the higher end.
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I press the a/c button, as it lightens the load of the pulley. It helps :)
How often do you guys press the sports button (CVT) ?