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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: khai22 on May 12, 2008, 12:29:19 PM
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Pardon me for asking '********' questions.
Hope the brothers here can shed some light.
I am a newbie in this car thing. Been riding motorcycles all my life and family commitments has made me to take up driving.
I do not have a car license yet. Hopefully, I will pass one day.
Been reading up here and there about cars.
Recently the Latio caught my interest.
Been reading up on other car makes and models. Basically the Suzuki SX-4, Swift, Honda Fit.
Perhaps anyone could provide comments or what they tink of the Latio Sport.
I understand there are 2 type of these Sports. The A/T and the ECVT. Any difference?
Is there much difference in road tax between a 1.5 and 1.6l cars? How about compared with 1.1 or 1.3?
What is this cashback thing?
Hope to hear from you guys.
Safe driving everyone.
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I do not know much abt Sport. But sedan and hatchback, boot space made a diff.
SX-4 is higher then Sport. The In Car Entertainment is built-in. Quite good to sit in. There's indicator to check ur FC. FC wise, I think Latio can be better because some of the ppl here can reach 13-19km/l. SX-4, my bro in law driving can merely reach 13km/l :w00t:
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I do not know much abt Sport. But sedan and hatchback, boot space made a diff.
SX-4 is higher then Sport. The In Car Entertainment is built-in. Quite good to sit in. There's indicator to check ur FC. FC wise, I think Latio can be better because some of the ppl here can reach 13-19km/l. SX-4, my bro in law driving can merely reach 13km/l :w00t:
Think most ppl here get 12 to 16. 19km/l seems to be isolated cases. Some ppl say Axio can get 20 to 24 easily.
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Pardon me for asking 's*****' questions.
Hope the brothers here can shed some light.
I am a newbie in this car thing. Been riding motorcycles all my life and family commitments has made me to take up driving.
I do not have a car license yet. Hopefully, I will pass one day.
Been reading up here and there about cars.
Recently the Latio caught my interest.
Been reading up on other car makes and models. Basically the Suzuki SX-4, Swift, Honda Fit.
Perhaps anyone could provide comments or what they tink of the Latio Sport.
I understand there are 2 type of these Sports. The A/T and the ECVT. Any difference?
Is there much difference in road tax between a 1.5 and 1.6l cars? How about compared with 1.1 or 1.3?
What is this cashback thing?
Hope to hear from you guys.
Safe driving everyone.
Think different cars have their own pros and cons. It depends on the needs or life-styles of the individuals. For instance, saloon vs SUV vs MPV vs SUV-cum-MPV. Each type serves different needs and preferences.
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Think most ppl here get 12 to 16. 19km/l seems to be isolated cases. Some ppl say Axio can get 20 to 24 easily.
This is what I read.. http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=5976.40 (http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=5976.40). Unbelievable!
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Pardon me for asking 's*****' questions.
Hope the brothers here can shed some light.
I am a newbie in this car thing. Been riding motorcycles all my life and family commitments has made me to take up driving.
I do not have a car license yet. Hopefully, I will pass one day.
Been reading up here and there about cars.
Recently the Latio caught my interest.
Been reading up on other car makes and models. Basically the Suzuki SX-4, Swift, Honda Fit.
Perhaps anyone could provide comments or what they tink of the Latio Sport.
I understand there are 2 type of these Sports. The A/T and the ECVT. Any difference?
Is there much difference in road tax between a 1.5 and 1.6l cars? How about compared with 1.1 or 1.3?
What is this cashback thing?
Hope to hear from you guys.
Safe driving everyone.
if u looking for comfort driving and normal city driving style, its a good car. if u need power and beng factor, then forget it.
Latio design and target to family...low profile ride..or slow car :devil2:
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This is what I read.. http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=5976.40 (http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=5976.40). Unbelievable!
I share your view too! Seems too good to be true! How I hope I am wrong here!
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if u looking for comfort driving and normal city driving style, its a good car. if u need power and beng factor, then forget it.
Latio design and target to family...low profile ride..or slow car :devil2:
Slow is ok.. Feel luxurious and comfort is the best! :thumbsup:
HumbleCar - Im hoping I can get 15-16km.. LOL..
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How to answer this thread? If we say yes seems like latio owner of coz say latio good, if we say no then we seem s***** to buy our cars in the first place.
I think latio sports is good for me as I like the ionizer aircon and comfortable seats (better than full leather). The seats won't heat up as much as leather seats under hot sun parking as I'm sure many of you suffer the hot seat touch the skin sensation before. I also like the relative good sound proofing of latio for me to enjoy my music and cvt sports has tweeters. All other hatchbacks you listed cannot match latio for comfort.
CVT Sports could fold down back seats and slide the back seats fwd/bwd. I have ferried one TV (with the box) by this flexible setup. I also ferried one chinese mandarin tree and one pot of tao hua flower together at the back before.
I wish the engine could pickup faster, have back seat aircon and rear disc brake. If I can have this then this car is perfect. Just my thoughts as cvt latio sport owner.
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Pardon me for asking 's*****' questions.
Hope the brothers here can shed some light.
I am a newbie in this car thing. Been riding motorcycles all my life and family commitments has made me to take up driving.
I do not have a car license yet. Hopefully, I will pass one day.
Been reading up here and there about cars.
Recently the Latio caught my interest.
Been reading up on other car makes and models. Basically the Suzuki SX-4, Swift, Honda Fit.
Perhaps anyone could provide comments or what they tink of the Latio Sport.
I understand there are 2 type of these Sports. The A/T and the ECVT. Any difference?
Is there much difference in road tax between a 1.5 and 1.6l cars? How about compared with 1.1 or 1.3?
What is this cashback thing?
Hope to hear from you guys.
Safe driving everyone.
wat's good depends wat's ur needs.
u probably dun need big boot space coz ur choice cars all hatchbk.
this is what latio has in my opinion is good for me: :thumbsup:
latio has better leg room than any of those mentioned.
digital AC, ionizer, keyless entry are among the std features.
cvt sport will have foldable seats, as well as slidable seats, armrest,. of course, cvt gearbox vs 4AT, CVT is smoother, more efficient, but lesser power than 4AT.
cashback is more of if u have loan more than 30k for more than 7 yrs (if i'm not wrong), the interest will be 3.5% instead of standard 2.5%, but will give u cash returns better than what the higher interest will charge u. if u intend to ride till end of coe, then u can go for that, but if u plan to change cars every few years, think hard coz the banks will be very happy
end of the day, u should test drive, visit showroom and compare all the cars, u are the driver, dun have to worry wat other say.happy choosing!hope u join the lation nation :devil2:
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Slow is ok.. Feel luxurious and comfort is the best! :thumbsup:
HumbleCar - Im hoping I can get 15-16km.. LOL..
My best so far is 14.2. After 1K servicing, it went down to about 12. Recent few tanks managed to get 13+. Still quite far from the 15-16 leh. How? Add water can?
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My best so far is 14.2. After 1K servicing, it went down to about 12. Recent few tanks managed to get 13+. Still quite far from the 15-16 leh. How? Add water can?
Water cannot burn, add kerosene. :D
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My best so far is 14.2. After 1K servicing, it went down to about 12. Recent few tanks managed to get 13+. Still quite far from the 15-16 leh. How? Add water can?
seems many frens here fc drop after 1k huh :confused1:
wonder is it the engine oil use by tcm?
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seems many frens here fc drop after 1k huh :confused1:
wonder is it the engine oil use by tcm?
Dunno leh. Just hope that it improves like some ppl here can get 19km or even 20 km. Shiok man. Can save alot.
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Water cannot burn, add kerosene. :D
Hope they don't increase the price of kerosene later.
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seems many frens here fc drop after 1k huh :confused1:
wonder is it the engine oil use by tcm?
mine drop also, den 2nd servicing ask them retune and stuff. suddenly car much more balanced, more gao chiong. Lol
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seems many frens here fc drop after 1k huh :confused1:
wonder is it the engine oil use by tcm?
Not true leh bro. I got the best FC for my latio after 1st servicing leh. :yehyeh:
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mine drop also, den 2nd servicing ask them retune and stuff. suddenly car much more balanced, more gao chiong. Lol
Hi Bro, what you meant by "car much more balanced"? Thanks.
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Hi Bro, what you meant by "car much more balanced"? Thanks.
Think he meant by stable in a way???
How I wish my sedan back seat can fold down. Mine is basic... I agree with machim of having backseat air con. :bleh:
Humble - how many servicing you went for it already? Poor FC might due to their E.O.? Using mineral or fasflo?
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Think he meant by stable in a way???
How I wish my sedan back seat can fold down. Mine is basic... I agree with machim of having backseat air con. :bleh:
Humble - how many servicing you went for it already? Poor FC might due to their E.O.? Using mineral or fasflo?
My ride 3000+ km only. Still on mineral.
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My ride 3000+ km only. Still on mineral.
Oh... still ok.. Im heading for servicing tmr. Changing to Amsoil EO. I guess the previous owner using Fasflo E.O as stated on the tag on my windscreen. Hope the FC and pick up etc works great.. :thumbsup:
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Oh... still ok.. Im heading for servicing tmr. Changing to Amsoil EO. I guess the previous owner using Fasflo E.O as stated on the tag on my windscreen. Hope the FC and pick up etc works great.. :thumbsup:
i brought my own amsoil during the normaL serving. after collection, noticed that they used the fastflow decal to indicate my next servicing date. So the decal might not mean anything.
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i brought my own amsoil during the normaL serving. after collection, noticed that they used the fastflow decal to indicate my next servicing date. So the decal might not mean anything.
Normally I remove and throw away the Flasfo decal immediately. Otherwise, it may leave some print mark on the windscreen. Kenna once, though it was not hard to remove. I service the car based on mileage. Though TCM said 10K km or 6-month whichever earlier, which I ignore.
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I bought it cos i feel and think it will be a good car. After 16km, I have only 3 words to say. CANNOT MAKE IT
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I bought it cos i feel and think it will be a good car. After 16km, I have only 3 words to say. CANNOT MAKE IT
why huh ???????
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I bought it cos i feel and think it will be a good car. After 16km, I have only 3 words to say. CANNOT MAKE IT
:w00t: Can to share Cannot Make It? I'm sure you ae comparing Apple to Apple and Orange to Orange right?
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I bought it cos i feel and think it will be a good car. After 16km, I have only 3 words to say. CANNOT MAKE IT
As the nick implies, this bro likes to vroom vroom, latio sport got no added performance feature for him to vroom vroom :D
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I bought it cos i feel and think it will be a good car. After 16km, I have only 3 words to say. CANNOT MAKE IT
Hi pal, care to share why you feel so -ve abt yr ride? Why travel only 16km? :confused1:
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Go buy a Mazda since you are looking at vroom vroom. Of cos you have to be able to sustain it dude. I must say you are a rich guy if you are able to maintain your vroom vroom interest. Cheers!!!
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More importantly, it is a value for money car. Set your expectation at the right level based on what you pay. One cannot pay $60K for a car and expect the car to go from 0-100 km/hr in 5 seconds flat. That will be unrealistic.
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Alamak why u guys 2nd guess just based on my nick? ;D
Im not a cheongster la.
Prior to getting this car, I already did alot of nec read up and check on this car.
I understand its pros and I bought it based on its pros which is also well documented in this forum.
But there are too many fault with my car until I buay tahan! Maybe its just my car!
Im not comparing anything and im just sharing my point of view based on my experience with my car.
Here it goes: My car- Latio Sports w Sunroof.
Here are those things that I am having to put up!
1. Sunroof rattles (Bang table bang wall, write email to complain to TC upper management, Problem still cant be solved.)
2. Power window (faulty)
3. The back seats, the middle portion which can be pull down to put cups. It rattles as long as the car moves.
4. left side back door, hollow sound when opening. The only 1 door that gives a very 'cheapo' sound
5. Steering wheel...Got sound....not those tok tok sounds which u guys mentioned in this forum. As long as i turn the steering wheel got sound liao...very irritating. The mechanics told me dunno what (i cant rem now) is faulty and need to change.
My car is not even 1 yr old yet!
Others...
1. TC servicing center really (^*&%%&^%#@. Send my car in for servicing...when i collect the car, all my radio frequency is out and became some malay FM. Did anyone gave them permission to play with my sound system?
Another occassion, send in for servicing, got back my car in extreme dirty state like just finished mud race. Ok granted that they need to take my car for test drive to see if sunroof rattles...But cant they wash up my car after that? I really complain until I GIVE UP so now i just put up with their nonsense.
2. I thought I can accept CVT prior to buying this car cos I am not a cheongest who must be the fastest off the block. But... at times you really got to have alot of patience with this car esp if your missus dont like to hear any rev-ving sound. (ok i know this one not a very valid reason for most)
Ok, perhaps you guys might say this is part and parcel of owning a car and every cars got its problem. But seriously.....if I know in advance abt all this problems associated with the supposedly most posh version of Latio (Latio sports CVT w sunroof), I rather save that additional 5-10k and opt for the basic version of AT latio sedan (Somemore the boot is so much bigger!).
At least if u spend less and the car got alot of problems, you take comfort that you pay for what you get. But Latio sports w sunroof being the top range of latio and still so many problems???
If its you ,will you be pissed esp when you know complains after complains to TC falls on deaf ears????
Sooner or later you will JUST GIVE UP.
Mind you b4 i got my latio sports, this has always been my dream car...i drool on the sight of latio sports zooming pass my vision. But now....dream has turned into nightmare.
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Alamak why u guys 2nd guess just based on my nick? ;D
Im not a cheongster la.
Prior to getting this car, I already did alot of nec read up and check on this car.
I understand its pros and I bought it based on its pros which is also well documented in this forum.
But there are too many fault with my car until I buay tahan! Maybe its just my car!
Im not comparing anything and im just sharing my point of view based on my experience with my car.
Here it goes: My car- Latio Sports w Sunroof.
Here are those things that I am having to put up!
1. Sunroof rattles (Bang table bang wall, write email to complain to TC upper management, Problem still cant be solved.)
2. Power window (faulty)
3. The back seats, the middle portion which can be pull down to put cups. It rattles as long as the car moves.
4. left side back door, hollow sound when opening. The only 1 door that gives a very 'cheapo' sound
5. Steering wheel...Got sound....not those tok tok sounds which u guys mentioned in this forum. As long as i turn the steering wheel got sound liao...very irritating. The mechanics told me dunno what (i cant rem now) is faulty and need to change.
My car is not even 1 yr old yet!
Others...
1. TC servicing center really (^*&%%&^%#@. Send my car in for servicing...when i collect the car, all my radio frequency is out and became some malay FM. Did anyone gave them permission to play with my sound system?
Another occassion, send in for servicing, got back my car in extreme dirty state like just finished mud race. Ok granted that they need to take my car for test drive to see if sunroof rattles...But cant they wash up my car after that? I really complain until I GIVE UP so now i just put up with their nonsense.
2. I thought I can accept CVT prior to buying this car cos I am not a cheongest who must be the fastest off the block. But... at times you really got to have alot of patience with this car esp if your missus dont like to hear any rev-ving sound. (ok i know this one not a very valid reason for most)
Ok, perhaps you guys might say this is part and parcel of owning a car and every cars got its problem. But seriously.....if I know in advance abt all this problems associated with the supposedly most posh version of Latio (Latio sports CVT w sunroof), I rather save that additional 5-10k and opt for the basic version of AT latio sedan (Somemore the boot is so much bigger!).
At least if u spend less and the car got alot of problems, you take comfort that you pay for what you get. But Latio sports w sunroof being the top range of latio and still so many problems???
If its you ,will you be pissed esp when you know complains after complains to TC falls on deaf ears????
Sooner or later you will JUST GIVE UP and start to put up with it.
So I assume your travelled 16,000km instead of 16km right? The standard trip meter usually show 1km and not 1m.
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Oh yes Im sorry for the typo. 16k km.
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Oh yes Im sorry for the typo. 16k km.
So you know why our forumers so astonished when you judged your car CMI when you only travelled 16km instead of 16K km. :D
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bro i have worst problems than yours with my previous car. granted my old car (march 1.0l '96) is damn old but I had engine problem, radiator problem, tyre problem. problems that cause you to can't even drive. but people are always around to help. do you still have your latio with you, or did you sell it already? maybe drop by the meet-ups, or visit a 3rd party authorized nissan service center. i recommend autosavers. they are good. go to the toh guan branch as they just open. the best mechanic is there.
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Eh brother,
Pickup is slow lah .Just go slow, even if my car extremely powerful pickup I also will be going slow pickup speed cos the petrol doesn't justify it haha. And from the problems you stated, I must say some of the cars do have faults. maybe 1 in a hundred or 1 in a thousand. Really depends on luck sometimes. I heard lots of shitty stuffs about TC but personal experience their service attitude is average ba not so shitty when I service. They did wash my car though @@. You should ask the service adviser why not clean and F**k him in his face Cheers.!!!
Maybe you want to zhng your exhaust so that you know that it is accelerating? hehe i bought latio becos of the quietness though. :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
I heard bang table bang chair throw chair at service counter also no use leh. Maybe you should go show room and bang when there's a lot of customers :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
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bro i have worst problems than yours with my previous car. granted my old car (march 1.0l '96) is damn old but I had engine problem, radiator problem, tyre problem. problems that cause you to can't even drive. but people are always around to help. do you still have your latio with you, or did you sell it already? maybe drop by the meet-ups, or visit a 3rd party authorized nissan service center. i recommend autosavers. they are good. go to the toh guan branch as they just open. the best mechanic is there.
thanks bro for the enocuraging words. I just feel pissed with so many problems...esp the sunroof rattling stuff....its like a slap right across my face.....I go for the best, pay for the best and end up that thing (sunroof) which you paid for gives u the most problem....what a big irony.
I really thank you for your kind words. :smile:
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Think ur case is one of the quite bad one i've seen so far. My 4AT sedan (basic set aka cheapest :bleh: )so farso good engine no problem, for exterior wise onli the sound proving rubber kinda peel out at the back which causes loud wind noise. Some paint also chipped off unknowingly.
I've been driving my car for almost 3 yrs with ard 70k km, so far so good. Very comfortable ride =)
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One thing I realize that the paint for Latio quite easy to come off. I use wet tissue to clean of bird ******** that landed on my car within 2 hours and hair line scratches appeared. What the hell ....And the touch up paint that they give us, I am telling everyone don't bother to go use it. The colour is totally different. I check with the service adviser and he told me, the paint has been here for dunno how long 1-2-3-4 years already, of cos the colour will change. Then what is the point of giving it to us T_T
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relak bro. i share experience with you.
back in 2000 /2001 my dad bought a ford mondeo. freakin car of the year award or something. very nice car back in 2000. the dashboard not fitted properly.. it was so bad the aircon vent keep popping up. then in 2003 the car gasket freakin blew while driving to KL. repair cost bomb. in the end scrap, and my dad bought a volvo s40. that time the volvo s40 just launch, and something in the ECU or engine keychia, the engine keep stalling. in the end thanks to excellent service quality by volvo they ship an entire new engine and ECU from sweden and replace. that has been the best car ever since.
my nissan march.. hai.. there's something rolling around the aircon ducts. i try to dismantle the aircon and dig for that thing (sounds like a screw or something drop inside) but i cannot reach. i take out the center console, the meter cluster, but still cannot find. the last resort is to take out the whole dashboard. i gave up. the rear hatchback door also rattles.. like crazy. 70km/h is enough for you to think you are in a pickup lorry. i also have rattling noise when audio volume is a little bit loud. in the end i found that the plastic covers on the door loose. i stuff tissue inside can liao.
rattling noise is usually something loose. i'm sure it can be fixed... just needs time. those TCM engineers probably lazy.. i dunno...
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Eh brother,
Pickup is slow lah .Just go slow, even if my car extremely powerful pickup I also will be going slow pickup speed cos the petrol doesn't justify it haha. And from the problems you stated, I must say some of the cars do have faults. maybe 1 in a hundred or 1 in a thousand. Really depends on luck sometimes. I heard lots of shitty stuffs about TC but personal experience their service attitude is average ba not so shitty when I service. They did wash my car though @@. You should ask the service adviser why not clean and F**k him in his face Cheers.!!!
Maybe you want to zhng your exhaust so that you know that it is accelerating? hehe i bought latio becos of the quietness though. :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
I heard bang table bang chair throw chair at service counter also no use leh. Maybe you should go show room and bang when there's a lot of customers :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
Ya bro..I agree with you. The pros of this latio sports in indisputable. I got 17inch fitted. zhng my car plate abit to metallic....and i have received many favourable comments about how much my car is a LOOKER from both man and woman.
My wife drove it...her male colleagues also goes up to her and comment on our car looking great with her in the driver seat etc.
But its like...HO KUA BO HO JIAT (Good to see...no good to eat)
The feeling sucks man when u pay Good $$ for top range model of latio and end up got so many problem associated with top range stuff... I will happily trade positive comments on my car with a car that has less problem.
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Vroomvroom, which car do you previously own? My previous ride is vios, hence tends to compare with my current latio. I have to say, my complaints are only :
1. Poor pick up, probably due to its weight, vios only about 900+ kg. That's why I can't tahan the cvt transmission, and took the normal 4AT. Proven as I test drove both.
2. Bumpy suspension. The vios is much, much better. Hopefully changing of my next tyres can improve it.
Other than these, all others, comfy, size, space, finishings, HD, noise level, etc are better than vios. It is a family car, no matter how much you zheng the car. ;D
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One thing I realize that the paint for Latio quite easy to come off. I use wet tissue to clean of bird s*** that landed on my car within 2 hours and hair line scratches appeared. What the hell ....And the touch up paint that they give us, I am telling everyone don't bother to go use it. The colour is totally different. I check with the service adviser and he told me, the paint has been here for dunno how long 1-2-3-4 years already, of cos the colour will change. Then what is the point of giving it to us T_T
talking abt the paint & bird S, hate it , 2wk ago i kena once at in law's hse, the Bird S was damn powerful, like eating deep into the paint. i use polish liquid to clean it , took few min still can feel the 'rough' (chor chor) on the paint!!! sick of it!
actually, i aso dun bother to touch up if the paint drop abit, just let it be already, used to it can already. no eyes to see.
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I bought it cos i feel and think it will be a good car. After 16km, I have only 3 words to say. CANNOT MAKE IT
hi vroom,
why said that leh?
my comment for Latio is, CAN MAKE IT LEH.
But, only pick up cannot make it! Waste our FC! Need to accelerate very hard to move it move faster if we want it to run faster... Will feel like si bei seng kor (painful to move)....
But, after it runs smoothly, it can run very fast and smooth esply in NSHW.
2000k rpm can hit 100km/h
3000k rpm can hit 140km/h to 150km/h on the (flat) road. if got slope, will slow down the speed, need to accelerate more if want it to run faster, then the rpm can easily hit 4000k rpm.
overall rating for Latio, is good.
because i compare with my 1998's Wira and 2006's CVT Latio :)
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Vroomvroom, which car do you previously own? My previous ride is vios, hence tends to compare with my current latio. I have to say, my complaints are only :
1. Poor pick up, probably due to its weight, vios only about 900+ kg. That's why I can't tahan the cvt transmission, and took the normal 4AT. Proven as I test drove both.
2. Bumpy suspension. The vios is much, much better. Hopefully changing of my next tyres can improve it.
Other than these, all others, comfy, size, space, finishings, HD, noise level, etc are better than vios. It is a family car, no matter how much you zheng the car. ;D
Brother If you are flying at 130-150 you will feel more safer in a Latio than Vios :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
Anyway to improve bumpy suspension?
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talking abt the paint & bird S, hate it , 2wk ago i kena once at in law's hse, the Bird S was damn powerful, like eating deep into the paint. i use polish liquid to clean it , took few min still can feel the 'rough' (chor chor) on the paint!!! sick of it!
actually, i aso dun bother to touch up if the paint drop abit, just let it be already, used to it can already. no eyes to see.
Yeah brother, I had mine done PPT. Now jialat got scratches liao haiz..wtf....dam bird....don't tell me we have to go back to ancient time using the silver cover to cover our precious ride man..
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Brother If you are flying at 130-150 you will feel more safer in a Latio than Vios :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
Anyway to improve bumpy suspension?
Yes that's for sure. Latio body about 100kg heavier mah.
You also feel the bumpiness? Change the suspension, but for me maybe 3 years later. As for now, according for some bros, can change to GR80 or V3 tyres. Can someone verify ?
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Changing tyre is the only way? Any other ways to improve suspension by mod?
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you can probably lower them, but lowering is actually not good for the car. the correct way is to actually buy a spring that's shorter. get good tyres ba. that might help quite a bit.
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Vroomvroom, which car do you previously own? My previous ride is vios, hence tends to compare with my current latio. I have to say, my complaints are only :
1. Poor pick up, probably due to its weight, vios only about 900+ kg. That's why I can't tahan the cvt transmission, and took the normal 4AT. Proven as I test drove both.
2. Bumpy suspension. The vios is much, much better. Hopefully changing of my next tyres can improve it.
Other than these, all others, comfy, size, space, finishings, HD, noise level, etc are better than vios. It is a family car, no matter how much you zheng the car. ;D
I drove a kelisa previously.
I am aware of all the pros of latio. it is a decent car no doubt.
My main grouses is, I feel very much kenna ripped off cos I paid for the best (top range latio model)....and the way it is going after just less than 1 yr with all the car defects. I cant help but to feel ******** with my decision.
Just imagine....the latio car defects is like more than the car defect problems which i encoutered in my kelisa.
I should have just opt for the basic 4AT version and save that 5-7k at least.
Hence I hope you guys can understand why i reacted that way to threadstarter topic.
Latio Sports a good car? NO way in my opinion.
If want a Latio, just go for the basic. Paying more doesnt mean better....It usually makes you more pissed off cos your expectation is adjusted higher.
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I should have just opt for the basic 4AT version and save that 5-7k at least.
You should have test both the cvt and 4AT before making your decision. Take me for example, I like the appearance of the sports version, but didn't come with the 4AT at that time. Since I can't tahan the slow pickup, also me not the cheong type, decided to take the basic 4AT. You only have to blame for yourself for your own selection. ;)
But come to think of it, even the luxury car also got people complaining. They even cough out more but at the end curse and swear eg the FC.
Just enjoy what you have for the car, sure you are able to pick up something better than the kelisa. Then change it after 3 years.
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I guess we understand from a point where you are paying for the best (top range) model of Latio.
For that kind of monie you are paying, I might as well get a Honda Airwave.
But dont mind me, for the few K difference, you are getting
1) Sun roof
2) CVT engine
3) other accessories like motorise side mirror, arm rest etc etc
4) A couple K more on OMV
To me, all these are not impt and does not add "power" to my drive which I came to know before I purchase the car, hence I chose the 4AT model. I used whatever saved to Zhng my car (blink blink) :p.
I have driven a Turbo veh before so I know the feeling of "underpowered" car but all these were already in my Lation CONS list. But I felt there are a lot of Pros abt this car (was looking at Airwave/Stream) which outweighs (in my opinon) the CONs and I think it's a value for monie car.
Talking abt the service centre (I went to TPY 3 times), I thot they did a good job for me. At least, it's fast (2hrs max) and efficient(assuming they did watever they shd do). I waited at least half a day (normal servicing) for my previous ride.
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I got 17inch fitted. zhng my car plate abit to metallic....and i have received many favourable comments about how much my car is a LOOKER from both man and woman.
Just realize that you upgraded the tyres to 17 inches. No wonder it is doubly slow pick up for the cvt sports.
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Brother If you are flying at 130-150 you will feel more safer in a Latio than Vios :yehyeh: :yehyeh:
Anyway to improve bumpy suspension?
Yo, i try to fly at 160km/h, ok also :)
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Yeah brother, I had mine done PPT. Now jialat got scratches liao haiz..wtf....dam bird....don't tell me we have to go back to ancient time using the silver cover to cover our precious ride man..
yo
the bird sai is damn sickening.
i thk they ate something poisonous.... scary, the sai can eat deep into the paints! i aso donno how to describe. just F&S lah!
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Yes that's for sure. Latio body about 100kg heavier mah.
You also feel the bumpiness? Change the suspension, but for me maybe 3 years later. As for now, according for some bros, can change to GR80 or V3 tyres. Can someone verify ?
vortex
because i do speed in msia's NSHW, i am thinking to chg to better tyres aso. may be GR80....
now abt 22000km... can change?
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I guess we understand from a point where you are paying for the best (top range) model of Latio.
For that kind of monie you are paying, I might as well get a Honda Airwave.
But dont mind me, for the few K difference, you are getting
1) Sun roof
2) CVT engine
3) other accessories like motorise side mirror, arm rest etc etc
4) A couple K more on OMV
To me, all these are not impt and does not add "power" to my drive which I came to know before I purchase the car, hence I chose the 4AT model. I used whatever saved to Zhng my car (blink blink) :p.
I have driven a Turbo veh before so I know the feeling of "underpowered" car but all these were already in my Lation CONS list. But I felt there are a lot of Pros abt this car (was looking at Airwave/Stream) which outweighs (in my opinon) the CONs and I think it's a value for monie car.
Talking abt the service centre (I went to TPY 3 times), I thot they did a good job for me. At least, it's fast (2hrs max) and efficient(assuming they did watever they shd do). I waited at least half a day (normal servicing) for my previous ride.
frankly speaking.
imo, a cvt is more worthwhile. i paid S$2k+ to get a cvt. gd deal.
i got the armrest, spoiler, etc.etc.
cvt, is powerful. once u drive smoothly in the Highway, it can fly very sui sui.... worth it dear!!!
CVT boleh!
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frankly speaking.
imo, a cvt is more worthwhile. i paid S$2k+ to get a cvt. gd deal.
i got the armrest, spoiler, etc.etc.
cvt, is powerful. once u drive smoothly in the Highway, it can fly very sui sui.... worth it dear!!!
CVT boleh!
Maybe bro, maybe.
I have a budget to keep within and it's abt 4k more for CVT (Sports ver)... so it's either Sports 4AT or Sedan CVT .... I chose looks :bleh:
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Maybe bro, maybe.
I have a budget to keep within and it's abt 4k more for CVT (Sports ver)... so it's either Sports 4AT or Sedan CVT .... I chose looks :bleh:
oh, btw, 4at vs cvt is abt 2k+ to 3k diff nia.
why choose 4at if cvt is ard this price range leh? cvt give u more things and cvt's power leh for cheong...
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if u looking for comfort driving and normal city driving style, its a good car. if u need power and beng factor, then forget it.
Latio design and target to family...low profile ride..or slow car :devil2:
i think latio is more like a Enjoy while Driving Car. haha
Comforty seats, less bumpy ride with good air con + gf/bf/family members sitting beside = Priceless
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i think latio is more like a Enjoy while Driving Car. haha
Comforty seats, less bumpy ride with good air con + gf/bf/family members sitting beside = Priceless
:thumbsup: totally agreed.
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oh, btw, 4at vs cvt is abt 2k+ to 3k diff nia.
why choose 4at if cvt is ard this price range leh? cvt give u more things and cvt's power leh for cheong...
Personally I chose 4AT over CVT cos like the feeling of controlling the change of gear despite it being auto...at least give a feel of changing gear by controlling the acc...prev on manuel car & loving it, if Latio have manual I'll have gotten it... :cool2:
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i think latio is more like a Enjoy while Driving Car. haha
Comforty seats, less bumpy ride with good air con + gf/bf/family members sitting beside = Priceless
I second it! Just luv the comfort of our ride! :thumbsup:
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oh, btw, 4at vs cvt is abt 2k+ to 3k diff nia.
why choose 4at if cvt is ard this price range leh? cvt give u more things and cvt's power leh for cheong...
Doesnt matter anymore ... just enjoy our rides :)
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vortex
because i do speed in msia's NSHW, i am thinking to chg to better tyres aso. may be GR80....
now abt 22000km... can change?
In Malaysia NSHW, the most I speed is 120 - 130. When near Kulai, I'll drop to 110 as TP is eyeing on Singapore cars.
It is very dangerous to drive at your high speed. You may think that everything is under your control, but everyone think so. Think of your friends and family in your car before you speed. Even the best tyres can't help you in the even of an accident.
22000km is too early to change the tyres, maybe around 40000km. Of course you can choose to change if you have the buget. GR80 is not a performance tyre, more for comfort. Performance tyre is also noisy, you have to compromise on the comfy.
Drive safely, pal. :smile:
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Personally I chose 4AT over CVT cos like the feeling of controlling the change of gear despite it being auto...at least give a feel of changing gear by controlling the acc...prev on manuel car & loving it, if Latio have manual I'll have gotten it... :cool2:
darrylker
mar huan mah.
as u know, sometime we kena jam jam n jam, then need to chg gear leh... mar huan leh...
hands tire, fooot aso feel tire leh....
but on the other hand, 4at is good aso, our foot will be always in use while driving mah, better for our health, u agree? :)
u know , in KL, always jam here n there, anytime, anywhere! i was there for years, i know it, therefore, auto gear is a must nowadays.
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You should have test both the cvt and 4AT before making your decision. Take me for example, I like the appearance of the sports version, but didn't come with the 4AT at that time. Since I can't tahan the slow pickup, also me not the cheong type, decided to take the basic 4AT. You only have to blame for yourself for your own selection. ;)
But come to think of it, even the luxury car also got people complaining. They even cough out more but at the end curse and swear eg the FC.
Just enjoy what you have for the car, sure you are able to pick up something better than the kelisa. Then change it after 3 years.
Strange that you pointed out on test drive part. I did not mentioned anywhere in this thread that i did not test drove before the 4AT. (something which i did) Anyway its off topic whether or not i tested the differernt version.
Thats it. Dont 2nd guess. its pointless.
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Just realize that you upgraded the tyres to 17 inches. No wonder it is doubly slow pick up for the cvt sports.
This CVT car is slow on pick up, no doubt abt it...15,16,17,18 inch..whatever...i drove a kelisa (very light)...i know how fast a car can be off a block.
In anycase, really too way off topic....pick up is NOT an ISSUE.
At least It doesnt borthers me that much. (To me its something good to have..but dont have also nevermind). HAHA.
Im off..u guys enjoy discussing on the pick up...
However there this is something im not clear though.....does the size of the rim affect the pick up speed?I thought its the weight of the rims that matter most?
eg say 15inch 15kg
17inch 13kg
which one pick up faster?
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Strange that you pointed out on test drive part. I did not mentioned anywhere in this thread that i did not test drove before the 4AT. (something which i did) Anyway its off topic whether or not i tested the differernt version.
Thats it. Dont 2nd guess. its pointless.
oh, vroomvroom
dun angry leh.
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oh, vroomvroom
dun angry leh.
no la not angry la :)
just trying to put things right...
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ya size and weight affects. like u cycle, when u change to the biggest gear ring at ur tyres, harder to move off rite?
works the same =)
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This CVT car is slow on pick up, no doubt abt it...15,16,17,18 inch..whatever...i drove a kelisa (very light)...i know how fast a car can be off a block.
In anycase, really too way off topic....pick up is NOT an ISSUE.
At least It doesnt borthers me that much. (To me its something good to have..but dont have also nevermind). HAHA.
Im off..u guys enjoy discussing on the pick up...
However there this is something im not clear though.....does the size of the rim affect the pick up speed?I thought its the weight of the rims that matter most?
eg say 15inch 15kg
17inch 13kg
which one pick up faster?
hi vroomvroom
no doubt the kelisa's speed lah, but i am worrying abt its weight. too light until can fly down the cliff in NSHW.
i saw alot of MyVi run very fast in NSHW, when i was driving 120km/h. they can overtake. scary!
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However there this is something im not clear though.....does the size of the rim affect the pick up speed?I thought its the weight of the rims that matter most?
eg say 15inch 15kg
17inch 13kg
which one pick up faster?
It does matter. There are also other factors like the pattern, type of rubber, area of contact, so not just weight.
I upgraded my rims for my previous ride from 14 to 16. In terms of weight is about the same. You can feel that you need to step on more fuel to start off the car from stationary for the 16" rims, and for my 14" rim, the car can be started from D without stepping the accelerator.
The reason is because bigger tyres have more contact surface. 16" tyres (205mm) compared with 14" (185mm). Thus need more power to overcome the traction on the road.
Though loss out in the FC, but I enjoyed the stability and look of the 16" rims (lower profile).
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mar huan mah.
as u know, sometime we kena jam jam n jam, then need to chg gear leh... mar huan leh...
hands tire, fooot aso feel tire leh....
but on the other hand, 4at is good aso, our foot will be always in use while driving mah, better for our health, u agree? :)
Aiya, for AT also can have tire leg lah. At the traffic light junction while waiting for green light, MT car can put to neutral gear, and relax both legs. But AT car need to press the brake all the time. Not advise to shift to neutral gear as they are more prompt to wear and tear of the gear box.
Anyway still enjoy the convienience of AT. I got a colleague who broke his left arm, but still can drive to work. And see one uncle with a limping leg, also can drive the AT. :thumbsup:
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It does matter. There are also other factors like the pattern, type of rubber, area of contact, so not just weight.
I upgraded my rims for my previous ride from 14 to 16. In terms of weight is about the same. You can feel that you need to step on more fuel to start off the car from stationary for the 16" rims, and for my 14" rim, the car can be started from D without stepping the accelerator.
The reason is because bigger tyres have more contact surface. 16" tyres (205mm) compared with 14" (185mm). Thus need more power to overcome the traction on the road.
Though loss out in the FC, but I enjoyed the stability and look of the 16" rims (lower profile).
iagree.
good point. make sense.
so in other word, 15" is just average.
but if we want more stable for our ride, 16" is surely a better choice then.
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Aiya, for AT also can have tire leg lah. At the traffic light junction while waiting for green light, MT car can put to neutral gear, and relax both legs. But AT car need to press the brake all the time. Not advise to shift to neutral gear as they are more prompt to wear and tear of the gear box.
Anyway still enjoy the convienience of AT. I got a colleague who broke his left arm, but still can drive to work. And see one uncle with a limping leg, also can drive the AT. :thumbsup:
wa koa,
broke ur left arm aso can drive?
if cvt auto gear, broke left leg aso can drive leh :)_
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And see one uncle with a limping leg, also can drive the AT. :thumbsup:
was that near the Whitley area some time back? LOL
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ya size and weight affects. like u cycle, when u change to the biggest gear ring at ur tyres, harder to move off rite?
works the same =)
Do you cycle? I do. From the way you put it, I presume you are referring to the driven gear. If yes, you are wrong. Higher gear which you are referring to bigger gear is the easiest to move off especially up slope while the lowest or smallest gear is for speed. :D
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darrylker
mar huan mah.
as u know, sometime we kena jam jam n jam, then need to chg gear leh... mar huan leh...
hands tire, fooot aso feel tire leh....
but on the other hand, 4at is good aso, our foot will be always in use while driving mah, better for our health, u agree? :)
u know , in KL, always jam here n there, anytime, anywhere! i was there for years, i know it, therefore, auto gear is a must nowadays.
Yeah, that's what my babe told me too when we got our ride...easier to drive esp during jams & on slopes... I seldom drive to KL, but more often to JB & malacca, esp in JB its more comfortable to have 4AT! :thumbsup: