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Title: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: karkadyz on May 22, 2008, 03:49:13 PM
Hi all,

Any recommended syn oil for 4AT that gives good FC based on your experience? I am hitting 10K soon. So far my FC at most is 11 kml (50% highway; 250 kpa for front tyres, 230 for rear tyres; mostly below 250k rpm). Thanks....
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: idiotboi89 on May 22, 2008, 04:17:43 PM
hmm, thats weird. my Latio tachometer never reach 250k.. T.T
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: josho on May 22, 2008, 05:31:27 PM
Hi all,

Any recommended syn oil for 4AT that gives good FC based on your experience? I am hitting 10K soon. So far my FC at most is 11 kml (50% highway; 250 kpa for front tyres, 230 for rear tyres; mostly below 250k rpm). Thanks....

Im using Amsoil 100% 0w20. Check out another thread about Amsoil. Cheers.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: Jazz on May 22, 2008, 08:32:36 PM
hmm, thats weird. my Latio tachometer never reach 250k.. T.T

Should be typo. 2.5K rpm lah.  :smile:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: idiotboi89 on May 23, 2008, 12:27:47 AM
hehe :bleh: whoops.

hmm, whats the minimum allowed for latio? was looking at 0w-30, den now got 0w-20?
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: josho on May 23, 2008, 09:55:54 AM
hehe :bleh: whoops.

hmm, whats the minimum allowed for latio? was looking at 0w-30, den now got 0w-20?

I asked the guy who is selling Amsoil, its ok tho. Silent and response is fast, but better to go for 30w if you want. Im still trying out on this 20w before I switch to 30w.  :D
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: wadexu on May 23, 2008, 02:13:29 PM
Hi all,

Any recommended syn oil for 4AT that gives good FC based on your experience? I am hitting 10K soon. So far my FC at most is 11 kml (50% highway; 250 kpa for front tyres, 230 for rear tyres; mostly below 250k rpm). Thanks....

Does TC allow to bring own oil? How much price deduction if use own oil?  :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: josho on May 23, 2008, 03:30:04 PM
Does TC allow to bring own oil? How much price deduction if use own oil?  :yehyeh:

Follow the thread here (http://"http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=6092.0")

Answer is found there.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: stickers on June 05, 2008, 09:43:28 PM
Just did my 1000km servicing today. Realise that TCM offer Shogun syn oil. Not sure how much you need to top-up.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: karkadyz on June 06, 2008, 11:39:49 AM
Just did my 1000km servicing today. Realise that TCM offer Shogun syn oil. Not sure how much you need to top-up.

What is your FC and your driving pattern (70% expressway?)? I think u still use mineral oil rite?
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: KeN3 on June 06, 2008, 01:03:03 PM
Just did my 1000km servicing today. Realise that TCM offer Shogun syn oil. Not sure how much you need to top-up.

paid abt 80+ when i did my 20k servicing..
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: Jo_Lee on June 06, 2008, 02:36:24 PM
sorry i know nuts abt all these engine oil thingy..

It was shogun from my 1K servicing and last mth for my 5K service, they changed to amsoil..so which
one is mineral and which one is synthetic ? or both are mineral ?
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: karkadyz on June 06, 2008, 02:59:59 PM
sorry i know nuts abt all these engine oil thingy..

It was shogun from my 1K servicing and last mth for my 5K service, they changed to amsoil..so which
one is mineral and which one is synthetic ? or both are mineral ?

I thought TCM always use Fastlo oil? They usually give mineral oil until 10k service. Did you ask for amsoil? They always gave me fastlo
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: Jo_Lee on June 06, 2008, 04:21:25 PM
sorry me bad..shld be Fastflo for 5K service...so it is mineral ?
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: stickers on June 06, 2008, 04:52:40 PM
What is your FC and your driving pattern (70% expressway?)? I think u still use mineral oil rite?

My FC is around 12.7km/l. Think 60% highway and 40% normal road. Yup..still using mineral.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: stickers on June 06, 2008, 04:59:33 PM
paid abt 80+ when i did my 20k servicing..

Bro, how the car performance ? Any good ?
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: karkadyz on June 06, 2008, 05:00:21 PM
sorry me bad..shld be Fastflo for 5K service...so it is mineral ?

yup... still minreal oil
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: KeN3 on June 06, 2008, 05:49:20 PM
Bro, how the car performance ? Any good ?

don't really feel the difference.. was told by fellow forumers dat Amsoil's better.. but forgot to buy before going for servicing, so used TCM's shogun instead..
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: josho on June 07, 2008, 03:34:26 AM
don't really feel the difference.. was told by fellow forumers dat Amsoil's better.. but forgot to buy before going for servicing, so used TCM's shogun instead..
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:Amosil  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: stickers on June 08, 2008, 12:15:34 AM
was told that Mobil1 Gold is good as well...but ex....
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: ckyc on June 08, 2008, 02:43:41 PM
just used amsoil for my 10k servicing.. personally i think the engine is smoother than before.
also when you accelerate like until 3krpm, you can feel the stress on the engine not as jia lat as what it used to be.
quite comfortable with the oil :)

ps i have never used other oil yet but i will try a different oil during my 30k servicing
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: gh05tss on June 08, 2008, 03:15:56 PM
just used amsoil for my 10k servicing.. personally i think the engine is smoother than before.
also when you accelerate like until 3krpm, you can feel the stress on the engine not as jia lat as what it used to be.
quite comfortable with the oil :)

ps i have never used other oil yet but i will try a different oil during my 30k servicing

just use any fairy good 5w40 oil or 0w30 and change them every 8k or 10k...u will have the same feeling...
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: machim on June 08, 2008, 05:30:09 PM
I think even castrol 0w40 (>$100) also lose to amsoil 5w30. The engine is confirm more quieter, pickup smoother and faster. Although I have not tried mobile1, but I guess amsoil still win.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: itchy on June 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
Hi all, wow my first post in this forum. I've just gone thru my 3rd (10k) servicing. Bought Mobil Synt S 5w40 from Taiwan (NT185 only!!). So far, my FC with mineral oil has been pretty good about 14.5 and currently it's around 15km. Well I do drive 60-70% on e highway...

Nonetheless, I'm tempted to try Amsoil 5W30. Read the other threads about it and seems very good, but is it recommended to drop from a 5W40 to a 30? Thicker to thinner lube doesn't sound right to me.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: iagree on June 10, 2008, 09:10:52 PM
Huh
Then i shld try to use Amsoil already, i used Mobil fully synthetic oil last mth for my 17k servicing @ Msia (KL).
Look like Amsoil is a better choice leh!??
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: josho on June 12, 2008, 12:47:40 PM
Huh
Then i shld try to use Amsoil already, i used Mobil fully synthetic oil last mth for my 17k servicing @ Msia (KL).
Look like Amsoil is a better choice leh!??

No harm buying that and try. :)

itchy - 40 is thicker better for cold country (Right?) As for 30 more then enuff.. I'm using 20 somemore. Wanted to switch to 30 and try. Love the silent engine. Heh
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: iagree on June 12, 2008, 12:54:56 PM
No harm buying that and try. :)

itchy - 40 is thicker better for cold country (Right?) As for 30 more then enuff.. I'm using 20 somemore. Wanted to switch to 30 and try. Love the silent engine. Heh

Oh, snd like Amsoil is much better than Mobil engine oil leh!!!! how?
i just chg, and used for 2k only, so how? change n try Amsoil now or wait till i use it for 10k?
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: josho on June 12, 2008, 01:52:27 PM
I think ppl change to Amsoil is because of cheap and good. Of cos Mobile is much superior. LOL..

Just carry using until the day you go servicing lor. E.O. only, nvm la. Just endure lo. Save the $ for petrol better. I also wanna change to 30 but see no reason why koz just service only.  :bleh:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: iagree on June 12, 2008, 04:12:47 PM
I think ppl change to Amsoil is because of cheap and good. Of cos Mobile is much superior. LOL..

Just carry using until the day you go servicing lor. E.O. only, nvm la. Just endure lo. Save the $ for petrol better. I also wanna change to 30 but see no reason why koz just service only.  :bleh:

oh, what is E.O?

Really bo? Mobil is so superior meh? I can feel the different on the first few days after I chg the engine oil (fully syn), but few wks later, i don't feel the different leh, not very superb power ... !!! Haiz!

Now, most imptly is to save fuel consumption!!! If by chging to a btr engine oil can help us to save fuel, do it man! Let me know if any btr ways to save fuel!!

Thanks.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: josho on June 13, 2008, 05:05:14 PM
*bish*  E.O. = Engine Oil lor. I lazy to type full  :bleh:

I stick to Amsoil, cheap and good. FC not as bad, but I think I will gof or w30 then w20. Heh..

*Just pumped V-Power ytd and hoping to clock good FC tho because previously is 14.6l/km. Hoping V-Power will be better, if it turn worse, no surprise because some of the guys here gotten bad FC due to V-Power. Shall see mine.  :devil2:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: xuan511 on June 13, 2008, 05:25:48 PM
*bish*  E.O. = Engine Oil lor. I lazy to type full  :bleh:

I stick to Amsoil, cheap and good. FC not as bad, but I think I will gof or w30 then w20. Heh..

*Just pumped V-Power ytd and hoping to clock good FC tho because previously is 14.6l/km. Hoping V-Power will be better, if it turn worse, no surprise because some of the guys here gotten bad FC due to V-Power. Shall see mine.  :devil2:

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: loony on June 25, 2008, 06:25:11 PM
No ppl here tried redline oil before? Just bought some 10W30 from MX and going to try on my 20K service.
Hope it is better. I am using Amsoil 5w30 now. Quite happy with it, but I thought it can be better with redline.
 :pray:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: iagree on June 25, 2008, 06:38:08 PM
*bish*  E.O. = Engine Oil lor. I lazy to type full  :bleh:

I stick to Amsoil, cheap and good. FC not as bad, but I think I will gof or w30 then w20. Heh..

*Just pumped V-Power ytd and hoping to clock good FC tho because previously is 14.6l/km. Hoping V-Power will be better, if it turn worse, no surprise because some of the guys here gotten bad FC due to V-Power. Shall see mine.  :devil2:

thanks horrrrr
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: ket on June 27, 2008, 04:53:20 PM
Im using Amsoil 100% 0w20. Check out another thread about Amsoil. Cheers.

Got 0w20 meh , like never see before? Like this the oil is very thin .
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: Jazz on June 28, 2008, 01:42:54 AM
Got 0w20 meh , like never see before? Like this the oil is very thin .

Have. Daily SGP usage no problem, but going up North may need slightly thicker viscosity EO.  :D
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: ket on June 30, 2008, 02:45:45 PM
Hi all I backside itchy change 20w/50 at shell service, now my FC is like 10km/L.

Wed got to change again to 5w/40 waste $$.

Hope no one is like me. :out: :nonod:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: Jazz on June 30, 2008, 02:49:28 PM
Hi all I backside itchy change 20w/50 at shell service, now my FC is like 10km/L.

Wed got to change again to 5w/40 waste $$.

Hope no one is like me. :out: :nonod:

The mechanic did not warn you meh ? Lousy service.  :mad:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: iagree on June 30, 2008, 02:53:14 PM
No harm buying that and try. :)

itchy - 40 is thicker better for cold country (Right?) As for 30 more then enuff.. I'm using 20 somemore. Wanted to switch to 30 and try. Love the silent engine. Heh

40 or 20w? ah ket chg to 20w/50, how to see this ratio?

Hi all I backside itchy change 20w/50 at shell service, now my FC is like 10km/L.

Wed got to change again to 5w/40 waste $$.

Hope no one is like me. :out: :nonod:

why chg to 5w/40 better than 20w/50? very luan donno how to read.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: ket on June 30, 2008, 06:10:00 PM
40 or 20w? ah ket chg to 20w/50, how to see this ratio?

why chg to 5w/40 better than 20w/50? very luan donno how to read.

Let me make it simple, now on 20w/50 engine oil. FC very very bad and not much power.
Wednesday want to change to 5w/40 engine oil. OK understand now?

Cause 20w/50 is too thick already for the engine to move, so car now no power. When your car no power step more Acc mean more petrol gone. :smile:

Ok catch any ball already?
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: darrylker on June 30, 2008, 09:39:03 PM
Hi all I backside itchy change 20w/50 at shell service, now my FC is like 10km/L.

Wed got to change again to 5w/40 waste $$.

Hope no one is like me. :out: :nonod:

I almost wanted to do the same as you last week, but mechanic warned me against using 20w as its not suitable for our current ride. Think its an $$ lesson learnt for you. . .  :ohmy:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: Jazz on June 30, 2008, 09:44:40 PM
I almost wanted to do the same as you last week, but mechanic warned me against using 20w as its not suitable for our current ride. Think its an $$ lesson learnt for you. . .  :ohmy:

That why I mentioned that mechanic sucks.  :mad:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: NSman on June 30, 2008, 09:51:26 PM
Hi all I backside itchy change 20w/50 at shell service, now my FC is like 10km/L.

Wed got to change again to 5w/40 waste $$.

Hope no one is like me. :out: :nonod:

20W/50 Shell full syn oil?? the yellow bottle one? tot that is use for Vans or lorries??

weight 50 is too think liao lor, somemore is new car
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: CustomGolf on June 30, 2008, 11:30:58 PM
20W/50 Shell full syn oil?? the yellow bottle one? tot that is use for Vans or lorries??

weight 50 is too think liao lor, somemore is new car

More for FI cars with very high operating temperature.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: xuan511 on June 30, 2008, 11:38:19 PM
waste $ on 1, lesson learnt by all  :bleh:

But bro don so sad, after u change back everything should be back to normal  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: iagree on July 02, 2008, 01:53:42 PM
20W/50 Shell full syn oil?? the yellow bottle one? tot that is use for Vans or lorries??

weight 50 is too think liao lor, somemore is new car

Oh. so W50 , W=weight 50 , the bigger the number the thicker the Oil!!!
new car need thinner oil, i.e. low W number...

must rmemeber, must remember...................................

the "20" leh? for low temp i remember someone said it.

what if our new car we use 0/#? got such?
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: itchy on July 07, 2008, 05:20:25 AM
Hey guys, my FC dropped to about 13.1 and 13.6 clicks per litre as compared to 15.2 on my second tank. Hmm I guess 5w40 is too thick already. I was being light footed some more. Now I'm being more heavy footed and true to what the observation says, maintaining revs of 2500 to 3000 is more fuel saving. Altho I probably only maintain around 2200 max or i'll be speeding waaaay too much.

Definitely gonna drop to a 30 rated E.O.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: Jazz on July 07, 2008, 08:21:04 AM
Hey guys, my FC dropped to about 13.1 and 13.6 clicks per litre as compared to 15.2 on my second tank. Hmm I guess 5w40 is too thick already. I was being light footed some more. Now I'm being more heavy footed and true to what the observation says, maintaining revs of 2500 to 3000 is more fuel saving. Altho I probably only maintain around 2200 max or i'll be speeding waaaay too much.

Definitely gonna drop to a 30 rated E.O.

If you change from mineral oil straight to 5W40, definitely your engine and ECU need time to adjust.   :smile:
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: BlackieLatio on July 08, 2008, 11:02:53 AM
Oh. so W50 , W=weight 50 , the bigger the number the thicker the Oil!!!
new car need thinner oil, i.e. low W number...

must rmemeber, must remember...................................

the "20" leh? for low temp i remember someone said it.

what if our new car we use 0/#? got such?

Yes the front nos represent the temp. But is not applicable for our car in singapore weather. That is meant for euro country. So there is no concern.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: karkadyz on July 09, 2008, 01:50:17 PM
Same. My FC also dropped from 11 km/l to 9-10km/l after changing from mineral oil to Amsoil 5w30. I noticed the petrol also play apart. After I changed from Caltex 95 to SPC 95, the FC increased a bit to 10+km/l. Still monitoring now... anyone with similar experience?
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: loony on July 09, 2008, 05:15:14 PM
Same. My FC also dropped from 11 km/l to 9-10km/l after changing from mineral oil to Amsoil 5w30. I noticed the petrol also play apart. After I changed from Caltex 95 to SPC 95, the FC increased a bit to 10+km/l. Still monitoring now... anyone with similar experience?

Not from me....I also change from mineral to Amsoil 3w50 during the 10K service, still can get at least 12km-13km/l
What is your travelling pattern? I am 60% HW and 40% City with a strong right foot. 1st gear always hit 3k.   :D

Plan to change to redline 10w30 in the next service. Will compare between amsoil. 
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: karkadyz on July 10, 2008, 03:31:46 PM
Not from me....I also change from mineral to Amsoil 3w50 during the 10K service, still can get at least 12km-13km/l
What is your travelling pattern? I am 60% HW and 40% City with a strong right foot. 1st gear always hit 3k.   :D

Plan to change to redline 10w30 in the next service. Will compare between amsoil. 


that's cool.... i never reach 12km/l b4  :crycry: mine is 40% HW, 60% city. I moderate driver and always hit ard 2krpm   :unsure:
I asked TCM and they even use thicker synthetic oil (FastLo 5W40). Do I need to tune the engine when changing from mineral to synthetic oil? What's the recommended rpm? They set mine at 700rpm during idle
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: kanzo on July 10, 2008, 05:00:23 PM
Oh. so W50 , W=weight 50 , the bigger the number the thicker the Oil!!!
new car need thinner oil, i.e. low W number...

must rmemeber, must remember...................................

the "20" leh? for low temp i remember someone said it.

what if our new car we use 0/#? got such?

W is for winter.. ie places with freezing temperature.. but for Spore dun bother abt the the front number just look at the second number. rule of thumb smaller number equal thinner oil = better Fc coz lesser resistance but lesser engine protection
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: rainboy on July 10, 2008, 10:34:28 PM
I changed from mineral to 5W-30 during the 10K servicing.  Now reaching 20K, FC remains unchanged.   :confused1:

I am going to ask the SE during the next servicing.
Title: Re: Recommended Syntetic Oil for 4AT
Post by: itchy on July 13, 2008, 06:17:00 PM
Sup bros, I have just filled me tank again. 5th tankful for 5w40 E.O. FC is about 13.9 clicks a litre. Getting better  ;D. And I was being heavy footed most of the way altho I am 60%highway,40%city this time around. Might wanna check your tyre pressures too, a fellow Latio owner (CVT) is using the same e.o, and we are neck and neck in our FC altho I am 4AT. Will continue to update. I still think 5w40 is too thick... Kinda takes a long time if 5 tanks isn't enough to run in the oil no? Not to mention my second tank ran at 15km/l. Cheers!