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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: Carmodz on August 01, 2008, 11:19:36 PM
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Hi all,
for those who were at MM'08 and had the chance to chat with Joanna and Hussein from Bilancia, then you probably might get a better recollection of what this thread is about.
Since Hussein is a friend who worked in TanChong for many years, and has fixed my car's many problems b4, i decided to give his recommendation for their in house engine oil a try. To be honest, the fact that Hicom oil was a BolehLand product made me skeptical. But i guess the fact that the additive was an American formula made me feel better la :bleh: Anyway, friends are friends, I decided to support him by trying Hicom 9000 fully synthetic oil. (I think there's a 3000 for Mineral Oil, 7000 for Semi-Syn oil, and then there was 9000 for Fully Syn oil). I havent tried the 3000 and 7000 because all I asked Hussein was "Which one gives more response and power?" SO all Hussein said was "9000"
Ok, so on with the servicing, drained my previous RockOil W30 fully syn oil, changed the oil filter, and he even used the airgun to air flush, to force the remaining small amounts of RockOil away. In went the w40 Hicom 9000 fully syn oil. Hussein even remembered my earlier complaint of the brakes having a lot of freeplay and went ahead to adjust the rear brakes for me. So that settled the "loose" brake pedal.
Started the engine, warmed up the car, and then went for a round. For those of you who have read till hear expect a Tiger and Dragon remark, sooo sorry to disappoint you. The oil indeed did make the engine smoother and quieter, but i guess thats because is W40. But the engine felt heavier, the rpm felt as if it was harder to climb, and i had to step harder. i was disappointed really, and the next thought that came to my mind was, shucks, gonna drain it after 3000km
alright, so jus suck it in, continued to use it, went home, went to work the next day. However, after about 100+km of driving, the car's performance improved! The response of the engine was better than the previous rockoil, rpm climb was lighter, and the pull of the car improved as well. Especially at 3-4k rpm where the torque is higher. Was all this at the expense of having a louder and rougher engine? No, it still maintained the smoothness. The engine roar was more muffled and controlled at high revs than previously.
I told this improvement to a friend of mine, and he told me about his company's marketing manager, using the oil in a 200,000+km plus Cefiro to travel to KL. The marketing manager knows close to nuts about a car except its a car, and it does what its supposed to do. Even this marketing manager says he dunno how to express it well, except the car jus felt smooth. At first i din dare recommend as very often, views and opinions are subjective.
FC wise, to me, no difference. Morning jam, evening jam, i can only wait for opportunities for a clearer road to rev the engine up and feel the pull of the car. For those start stop situations, a light tap (engine under 2k rpm) i can feel the difference. It feels more responsive, jus more oomph to it. I've only done about 500km with this new engine oil, but i must say, although its a malaysian product, its a better oil compared to the many other engine oils i've tried.
I think for those of you with the 15% promotion flyer from MM'08, and intend to service your car, you can give this Hicom Oil a try, besides, you get a free NanoBlok worth $68 which actually gets rid of odours when it reacts with sunlight (good especially for smokers).
NB: I am in no way making any commission, nor am I related to this workshop. I am just a Latio owner who got to know Hussein from TanChong and decided to support him as a friend as he has helped me solve alot of problems with my car. Posting my FR to share my positive experience with this Hicom Oil.
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brother, where did you do your service? they use airgun to air flush? :thumbsup:
so far never hear other workshop do like this.
Hussein is the service foreman/tester in TC ubi?
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brother, where did you do your service? they use airgun to air flush? :thumbsup:
so far never hear other workshop do like this.
Hussein is the service foreman/tester in TC ubi?
their workshop is at Blk 48 Enterprise Hub. Im not sure what's the unit number, but i do know it faces Toh Guan Centre. Its a normal service workshop which means they only do the necessary "how many point checks"
anyway ya, i did ask Hussein why he used the airgun to flush out the remaining engine oil? He says so that they old oil wont mix/pollute the new engine oil.
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Bro, sorry can't make it to the MM'08 as I was outstationed in China. Mind sharing how much is the HICOM oil?
Recently, mine Latio had a short squeaking sound during ignition, might need Hussein to have a look at it as mine Latio is already out of warranty.
Thanks!
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Bro, sorry can't make it to the MM'08 as I was outstationed in China. Mind sharing how much is the HICOM oil?
Recently, mine Latio had a short squeaking sound during ignition, might need Hussein to have a look at it as mine Latio is already out of warranty.
Thanks!
the oil itself is $98. i think there's a 15% promotion for TLC. not sure when its valid till. you might want to call and ask joanna for the details. The number is 64680831
dun forget to tell her u r from latio club, i think the 15% promotion is valid for our Mega Meet. Don't think its a store wide promotion.
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Thanks Carmodz. Will pay him a visit this week.
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Hussain , did mention to me on the HICOM oil. May try it out on my next oil change. Hussain help me on some of my car issues that was sorted out by TCM. Great guy. :thumbsup: .Ken do keep us updated on the Engine oil performance.
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Hussain , did mention to me on the HICOM oil. May try it out on my next oil change. Hussain help me on some of my car issues that was sorted out by TCM. Great guy. :thumbsup: .Ken do keep us updated on the Engine oil performance.
clocked close to 1k km. so far still very good. no deterioration in performance or smoothness. but its still "young" All i can say is its one of the best engine oils i've used. Honest. In the past ive always used w30 oils, thought it would be lighter and more responsive. as mentioned in my first post of this thread, initially it did 'suck', engine felt heavier, but now different liao, more pull, more responsive, smoother and yet quieter.
Their most exp package is $128, not too sure if they will give 15% still?
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brother, where did you do your service? they use airgun to air flush? :thumbsup:
so far never hear other workshop do like this.
Hussein is the service foreman/tester in TC ubi?
Hi Rocket,
Yes, we indeed use air gun to flush the OLD/PREVIOUS engine oil out and make sure that the last drop is out of the engine. This step is good as it force all the waste from the engine to come out. For example as u know that engine wear and tear.. metal particles will surely be 'swimming' in the engine. Hence if u change oil but did not perform this step, some of the matal particles will still stay in ur engine.. so wat is the diff?
Come to our workshop at 48 Toh Guan Rd East, #01-111, Enterprise Hub todae and try out stuff!! Hope to see you soon.
Regards,
Bilancia
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Bro, sorry can't make it to the MM'08 as I was outstationed in China. Mind sharing how much is the HICOM oil?
Recently, mine Latio had a short squeaking sound during ignition, might need Hussein to have a look at it as mine Latio is already out of warranty.
Thanks!
Our retail price for 9000 Hicom Oil (Fully Syn) is selling at $98.
Servicing Package will be at $135 Price is revamped slightly is we include the following check list, but no worry, as long as you are from TLC, a discount will be given CONFRIM (Look for James)
Topping [/b] up of nesscary fulid is free (Brake, coolant etc etc)
Change Engine Oil
Change Engine Oil Filter
Change Drain Plug Gasket if necessary
Check Air Filter Condition & Change if necessary
Check & Top Up Engine Coolant & Change if necessary
Check Engine Running Condition
Check Drive Belt Condition
Check Cooling System & Hoses for Leaks
Check Spark Plug Condition & Change if necessary
TRANSMISSION
Check Transmission Fluid Level & Condition & Change if necessary
Check Transmission for Leaks
Check Clutch Fluid Level
STEERING SYSTEM
Check Power Steering for Leaks & Fluid Level
Check Steering Rack & Pinion Assembly
Check Steering Linkages & Ball Joints
Check Steering Bellow Condition
BRAKE SYSTEM
Check Brake Lines & Hoses Condition
Check Brake Fluid Level & Change if necessary
Check Parking Brake Effectiveness & Service if necessary
Check all Brake Pads & Lining Condition & Service if necessary
CHASSIS AND BODY
Check all Shock Absorber Condition
Check Condition of Engine Mountings
Check & Lubricate Door Hinges
Check Exhaust System for Leaks
Check Window Operating Condition
Check Drive Shaft Joint Condition
Check Aircon Refrigerant Level / Cabin Filter Condition
Check Wheel Bearings Condition
OTHERS
Check Operation of all Lights & Switches
Check Horn Condition
Check Battery Electrolyte Level & Condition
Check Wipers & Windscreen Washer
Check Instrument Panel Meters & Indicators
All Wheel Tyres Pressure
Perform Road Test if necessary
My mech will do more additional stuffs if they have the time.. As from wat i observed, they even help to clear the dust at radiator and rotor area which i am very impressed with them.
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Bro, sorry can't make it to the MM'08 as I was outstationed in China. Mind sharing how much is the HICOM oil?
Recently, mine Latio had a short squeaking sound during ignition, might need Hussein to have a look at it as mine Latio is already out of warranty.
Thanks!
Its alrite, you are alway welcome to visit our workshop anytime...
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Hussain , did mention to me on the HICOM oil. May try it out on my next oil change. Hussain help me on some of my car issues that was sorted out by TCM. Great guy. :thumbsup: .Ken do keep us updated on the Engine oil performance.
I am the new staff in Bilancia Intl Pte Ltd. When i joined the company, boss insist that ALL staffs must change our engine oil. But then less than 4 days ago then i done with my 70000km servicing. Now wanna me drain out my oil, heart pain man.. But since its free, why not. Once changed, the following weekend, i took my Toyota Vios to KL.. No joke... its much smooother, and i manage to clear my meter in no time...
My car is lightly modded with:
HKS Slience + Mid Pipe + 4-2-1 Extractor
Simota Carbon Charger
Zaptor Voltage Stablizer
Denso Iridium Plugs
and some other things that not related to performance
I am not selling Flower then claim that my flower smell good. I am based on neutral party to comment on this althought i work for Bilancia Int Pte Ltd.
Come give it a try on ur car and i believe u will feel the diff also. Hope to see you soon.
Regards,
James/Bilancia
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You should have put your 4 day old engine oil in a container and passed it to me. ;D
So wasted to throw away. :unsure:
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Its alrite, you are alway welcome to visit our workshop anytime...
Thanks man. Currently, experiencing a short squeaking sound whenever I crank up the engine (especially when cold), not sure what is the problem. Are you guys opened on Sat?
Btw, mine latio is CNGed, so can this oil be used?
Thanks!
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used 4000km already, still good. Smooth, quiet, responsive.
I changed at 77505km, Hussein requested me to change at 90,000km. Will continue to monitor, drain out oil and see the colour after 90,000km
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Let us know the oil color after you've done the oil change.
If it's black and dirty, it means the engine oil's been good in cleaning the deposits in the engine.
If the oil is still clean or just a little brownish, it means it has not been doing its job.
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Let us know the oil color after you've done the oil change.
If it's black and dirty, it means the engine oil's been good in cleaning the deposits in the engine.
If the oil is still clean or just a little brownish, it means it has not been doing its job.
u will have to wait quite a few months to find out :>
btw, where did you get this theory? Is there some document or online journal u read somewhere? I would like to read more about it as well.
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I read it in the Shell Helix website but when I cannot find it now.
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You should have put your 4 day old engine oil in a container and passed it to me. ;D
So wasted to throw away. :unsure:
I gave it to my frenz next door. But realli heart pain coz $100 leh... haiz.... But i am still hapi with Hicom Oil... Come and try and u will know..
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Thanks man. Currently, experiencing a short squeaking sound whenever I crank up the engine (especially when cold), not sure what is the problem. Are you guys opened on Sat?
Btw, mine latio is CNGed, so can this oil be used?
Thanks!
Hi,
Yes!! We are open even sundae. But then, on weekend, pls give us a ring b4 u come over coz weekend normalli have to wait as more customers mah. Our operating hr is from 9am to 6pm. Monday to Sunday.
Regards,
James/Bilancia
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used 4000km already, still good. Smooth, quiet, responsive.
I changed at 77505km, Hussein requested me to change at 90,000km. Will continue to monitor, drain out oil and see the colour after 90,000km
Tats the way!! In fact those who came by our work shop will know that we do kip a sample of other brand of used oil and compare.
Regards,
James/Bilancia
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Let us know the oil color after you've done the oil change.
If it's black and dirty, it means the engine oil's been good in cleaning the deposits in the engine.
If the oil is still clean or just a little brownish, it means it has not been doing its job.
Hi Clarence,
From my understanding, this is not alway the case. Will ask my mech tml when i come to workshop. Should be late afternoon. Anyone here with comments or info to share?
Regards,
James/Bilancia
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Hi Rocket,
Yes, we indeed use air gun to flush the OLD/PREVIOUS engine oil out and make sure that the last drop is out of the engine. This step is good as it force all the waste from the engine to come out. For example as u know that engine wear and tear.. metal particles will surely be 'swimming' in the engine. Hence if u change oil but did not perform this step, some of the matal particles will still stay in ur engine.. so wat is the diff?
Come to our workshop at 48 Toh Guan Rd East, #01-111, Enterprise Hub todae and try out stuff!! Hope to see you soon.
Regards,
Bilancia
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Hi Clarence,
From my understanding, this is not alway the case. Will ask my mech tml when i come to workshop. Should be late afternoon. Anyone here with comments or info to share?
Regards,
James/Bilancia
from my understanding, its the other way around.
if its black and dirty, probably your grade of oil is too low or the oil has been used for too long.
so, yeah. tan chong oem engine oil sucks btw. dirties your engine. dont believe? look at your engine dipstick. its YELLOWED.
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Hhmmm.... I am sure the information from a Dutch oil giant like Shell cannot be wrong.
But I just can't seem to find this info in their website now.
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Hhmmm.... I am sure the information from a Dutch oil giant like Shell cannot be wrong.
But I just can't seem to find this info in their website now.
looking forward to the information :thumbsup:
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from my understanding, its the other way around.
if its black and dirty, probably your grade of oil is too low or the oil has been used for too long.
so, yeah. tan chong oem engine oil sucks btw. dirties your engine. dont believe? look at your engine dipstick. its YELLOWED.
Hi all,
I confirm with our mechanics that the EO even after use cannot be so black. And also, mjust not be harden like gel or etc... In fact we do kip sample of some used EO that has been so call harded as our sample.
Do come by and have a look.
Regards,
Bilancia
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from my understanding, its the other way around.
if its black and dirty, probably your grade of oil is too low or the oil has been used for too long.
so, yeah. tan chong oem engine oil sucks btw. dirties your engine. dont believe? look at your engine dipstick. its YELLOWED.
The amsoil oil also shows orange yellowish color, does it mean amsoil also not good enu?
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Take note in the next few editions of HoTstuff magazine... We have more feedback from other car owners!!! Yesh... It shown that HiCom EO is realli good indeed!!!
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The amsoil oil also shows orange yellowish color, does it mean amsoil also not good enu?
oil sure that colour bro.
but staining the engine dipstick is another issue.
imagine your dipstick got stains on it. try to imagine how the inside of your engine looks.
but no worries, most latio drivers drive too leisurely to bust a gasket or piston. =D
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Hello all
How come HICOM oil come in pulak?
Amsoil? http://www.mxtradings.com/Amsoil%20Pricelist.htm
How? So many type?
Mine is 5th service, 28200 km servicing.
How? Which one to take ah? 3 bottles shld be enuf?
5W20 if wanna to save FC?
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Feedback given by Mr Osman, a happy return customer. Previous oil change in May 2008.
This is the 2nd time i am coming back to Bilancia Intl Pte Ltd. Was initially introduced to use their Hicom engine oil in May 2008 but was not confidence with it as i was all along using another brand for the past 10 years.
The mechanic explained and managed to convinced me and since its onli $90++ for a bottle so change it.
Once changed, i can feel the big diff in my car. But i dont want to conclude so early. Waited and used it throught out my next 10000km. My ride is still as smooth and one thing have to take note is that my fuel comsumption improved alot. I am very happy with the engine oil and hence i come by again to them.
Exellence services from them thats why i gave them the support by allowing them to take my car pic and also wrote them this report. Good luck and all the best to everyone of Bilancia Intl Pte Ltd
*Mr Osman is not our staffs and we dun pay him anything for the report instead we gave him even beta services!!!!!
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Hi,
I have also read that good EO will provide better FC, why is this so ? Unable to figure the link or connection. Anyone able to explain further ? :smile:
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Feedback given by Mr David - Director of L & D Ideal Motor Pte. Ltd.
1st time heard of this brand (Hicom-Lub), but ok, give it a try due to i bring and visit my frenz couple of shop away. Grooming is good and cheap consider my Odessy size. The engine oil they carried is just great, my engine is much smoother and rpm seem to be going up easier. After 2 weeks of using, i realise my petrol comsumption improve by 10%!. I will definetly recommand this engine oil to all my customers and friends. Good job!!!
Mr David is using HiCom-Lub 9000 (Fully Syn)
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Can you advice what Hicomm EO range is suitable for my CNGed Latio.
Thanks
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Hello all
How come HICOM oil come in pulak?
Amsoil? http://www.mxtradings.com/Amsoil%20Pricelist.htm
How? So many type?
Mine is 5th service, 28200 km servicing.
How? Which one to take ah? 3 bottles shld be enuf?
5W20 if wanna to save FC?
Hi,
May i know wat is pulak?
Regards,
Bilancia/James
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Can you advice what Hicomm EO range is suitable for my CNGed Latio.
Thanks
Hi,
SUrely can use.. Come and experience it and you will know. I would recommand our Fully Syn which is HiCom-Lub 9000.... so far... i onli recieve good feedback... :smile:
Regards,
Bilancia/James
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Due to higher operating temperature from CNG, I just need to be sure that HICOMM EO can take the heat. Currently on Carlube 5W40. Btw, do you do spark plug re-gapping (if I get new plugs from you) to 1.0mm?
Thanks!
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Thank you Michael for bring your car to do servicing.
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Feedback given by Mr Michael from Sg Kia forum.
Here is mine feed back after doing a full servicing plus checking of my car. My car felt smooth using the hicom 9000 with irudrum spark plugs. Over all i m very happy with the service and the price quoted to me is resonable for the service they provide and advise they gave. Would give a 10/10 marks. Would come to this shop for my furture servicing. Once again thanks Bilancia.
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Due to higher operating temperature from CNG, I just need to be sure that HICOMM EO can take the heat. Currently on Carlube 5W40. Btw, do you do spark plug re-gapping (if I get new plugs from you) to 1.0mm?
Thanks!
Yes... all reqirement will be met.
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We have hit 300th bottles today!!!!!! Meaning there are more and more cars using our EO... and some of them are repeat customers!!! Yesh!!! We are making it!
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Thank you Mr Paul for bring ur ride to our workshop.
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Feedback by Mr Paul - Sales Representative of Arees Water Pte Ltd
I tried b4 their 5000. Not bad. Come back for another oil change this time. Trying out thier 9000, its much smoother and petrol consumption also improved. Good job Bilancia
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HiCom-Lub 9000 (Fully Syn) + OEM Oil Filter + OWS Iridium Plugs at onli $198!!!!!!
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HiCom-Lub 9000 (Fully Syn) + OEM Oil Filter + OWS Iridium Plugs at onli $198!!!!!!
hi james,
this thread started for FR on Hi-Com engine oil. It will be better to keep Bilancia's offering and packages in the Commercial Offering folder.
thanks for helping to keep the forum more organised.
thanks
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hi james,
this thread started for FR on Hi-Com engine oil. It will be better to keep Bilancia's offering and packages in the Commercial Offering folder.
thanks for helping to keep the forum more organised.
thanks
Noted. Paisei
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Bilancia Intl Pte Ltd proudly bring you the following Engine Oil (EO) - HiCom-Lub.
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Page 22 of Oct 2008 Hotstuff Magazine
Product Description:
HICOM-LUB 9000 is a fully synthetic multi-grade motor oil for the latest model passenger cars requiring performance specifications meeting API SM. Developed to provide maximum protection for all passenger cars, including high performance cars and cars fitted with catalytic converters. The superior characteristic of Hicom-Lub 9000 motor oils are derived from the synthetic base stocks and specially selected additives to provide extended wear protection and long drain requirements.
Benefits: