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Title: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on August 29, 2008, 12:00:53 PM
Hi, is rust proofing required for today's car (Latio)? Was quoted $385 for 3M, reasonable price? Not sure about Tuff Kote though. What is the complication if no rust proofing? Rust form undercarriage will lead to....???   :confused1: :confused1: 
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: mcxl on August 29, 2008, 12:24:12 PM
Before I collected my car, I asked the SE for Tuff Kote and he said that all latios have a galvanised undercarriage and it would be a waste of money to Tuff Kote. True? I hope so.
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on August 29, 2008, 12:31:04 PM
Before I collected my car, I asked the SE for Tuff Kote and he said that all latios have a galvanised undercarriage and it would be a waste of money to Tuff Kote. True? I hope so.

Is it? my SE never told me. Anyone kind to clarify?  :out:
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: clarence on August 29, 2008, 12:54:40 PM
Go for undercarriage tar coating if you intend to keep your latio for 10 yrs.

Otherwise, save the money.

If you look at Latio wheel arch, you will noticer its uncoated bare metal.

Try any tar coating companies except Tuff Kote which did a sub-standard job for me - Unacceptable. Anotehr forumer who tried Tuff Kote's System 6 recently also expressed his disappointment on the poor job quality.

http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=6661.20
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: CustomGolf on August 29, 2008, 10:50:58 PM
Tuff Kote and system 6 are entirely 2 different things. Tuff kote is supposed to be for rust proofing while system 6 is actually a paint protection thing (sealant).  Rust proofing using bitumen was developed mainly for cold countries where it snows. Unless it snows in Singapore, there isn't much reason to do it except to waste your money. If you have ever driven under snowing conditions, you'll know that salt is introduced to help melt the snow and by driving through these road condition, salt will be deposited all over your car, guess what happens next. Have you seen a car that has a rusty body in the last 10 years? I guess not. I've not seen any since the days of the Toyota Starlet (EP60), Toyota Corrolla (KE35), Datsun 120Y and perhaps the Nissan Pulsar days.
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: Keromond on August 30, 2008, 12:35:43 AM
I guess what Clarence is trying to bring across is...The company doing sys 6 or tuff kote wasn't doing a good job in general. Standard no longer there etc.
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on August 30, 2008, 02:59:08 PM
Thanks guys for the input. SO, how many of the Latio's owner here did go for rust proofing?
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: Zippy on August 30, 2008, 04:27:33 PM
Yup, i got the 3M one for my Latio. i know it's kiasu to do so, but i figured since i'm already spending soooooo much $$$ on my ride, what's a few hundred dollars to give me peace of mind, right? Just my 2 cents.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: sam on August 30, 2008, 04:44:36 PM
Yup, i got the 3M one for my Latio. i know it's kiasu to do so, but i figured since i'm already spending soooooo much $$$ on my ride, what's a few hundred dollars to give me peace of mind, right? Just my 2 cents.  :thumbsup:

Brother, where did you done up the 3M ?  I asked becos my second-hand car has a 3M decal... wondering is it similar so that i can call up that Company to trace if it's already done.

Xie xie nin
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: Zippy on August 30, 2008, 04:58:20 PM
Brother, where did you done up the 3M ?  I asked becos my second-hand car has a 3M decal... wondering is it similar so that i can call up that Company to trace if it's already done.

Xie xie nin

Got it done at TCM by my SE. TCM is authorised dealer/workshop for 3M. Just call up TCM service centre n they can trace for u.

For those of u who want to DIY, 3M sells it in cannisters that u can spray on yourself. A fren just bot 6 cans to spray himself. i gotta ask him next week where he bot from.
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on August 30, 2008, 05:05:04 PM
Got it done at TCM by my SE. TCM is authorised dealer/workshop for 3M. Just call up TCM service centre n they can trace for u.

For those of u who want to DIY, 3M sells it in cannisters that u can spray on yourself. A fren just bot 6 cans to spray himself. i gotta ask him next week where he bot from.

Zippy, how much your SE charged you? And when you did that? Thanks.
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: Latiorarri on August 30, 2008, 06:11:18 PM
Tuff Kote and system 6 are entirely 2 different things. Tuff kote is supposed to be for rust proofing while system 6 is actually a paint protection thing (sealant).  Rust proofing using bitumen was developed mainly for cold countries where it snows. Unless it snows in Singapore, there isn't much reason to do it except to waste your money. If you have ever driven under snowing conditions, you'll know that salt is introduced to help melt the snow and by driving through these road condition, salt will be deposited all over your car, guess what happens next. Have you seen a car that has a rusty body in the last 10 years? I guess not. I've not seen any since the days of the Toyota Starlet (EP60), Toyota Corrolla (KE35), Datsun 120Y and perhaps the Nissan Pulsar days.


or unless ur work place is near the sea  ;) i park quite near the pasir panjang ferry terminal.. salt spray from the sea can also cause rusting..
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: Zippy on August 30, 2008, 06:58:21 PM
or unless ur work place is near the sea  ;) i park quite near the pasir panjang ferry terminal.. salt spray from the sea can also cause rusting..

i hear those living in east coast area also has this problem...
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on September 02, 2008, 09:58:01 AM
Heard that the resale value depreciates more if no rust proofing found on the car, is that true?  :confused1:
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: vypez on September 02, 2008, 12:34:04 PM
Heard that the resale value depreciates more if no rust proofing found on the car, is that true?  :confused1:

you're the kind that will believe pigs can fly. hehe

sorry for being so direct.
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: Zippy on September 02, 2008, 12:49:10 PM
Heard that the resale value depreciates more if no rust proofing found on the car, is that true?  :confused1:

Seriously, i think car dealers will say anything to kotok people...

If u want to do it, do it because you want to protect your car - do it for the right reason.
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on September 03, 2008, 02:16:06 PM
Got it done at TCM by my SE. TCM is authorised dealer/workshop for 3M. Just call up TCM service centre n they can trace for u.

For those of u who want to DIY, 3M sells it in cannisters that u can spray on yourself. A fren just bot 6 cans to spray himself. i gotta ask him next week where he bot from.


Zippy, mind to share how much you paid for it? thanks.   :smile:
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: burnolise on September 03, 2008, 04:13:12 PM
Just wondering.....if dun do the rust proofing...the latio under carriage will degenerate? What are the degeneration tell-tale signs? If dun do, will have safety issue?
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: aerosignal on September 03, 2008, 08:10:32 PM
Got it done at TCM by my SE. TCM is authorised dealer/workshop for 3M. Just call up TCM service centre n they can trace for u.

For those of u who want to DIY, 3M sells it in cannisters that u can spray on yourself. A fren just bot 6 cans to spray himself. i gotta ask him next week where he bot from.
Brave soul.... :thumbsup: Quite terok to DIY. Have to jack car up, remove wheel, cover the whole suspension (or even remove it) then can spray. Coils ok but cannot get the stuff on the shocks...
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on September 10, 2008, 11:12:49 PM
Autosaver quoted me $400 plus 10% discount for 3M sound and rust proofing, time required, half a day -> http://www.autosaver.com.sg/pop/text_3M.gif
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: Keromond on September 11, 2008, 12:08:04 AM
is sound proofing together with rust proofing coating?

I did mine at TCM...300+....dun know got sound proof anot..like no diff...maybe mine dun have
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: clarence on September 11, 2008, 09:31:17 AM
$300+ should include sound proofing.

$200+ is for rust proofing only, so that extra $100+ should be for sound proofing (package).

Knock on your doors. The sound should not be hollow. There should be  a solid "THUD" sound.
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on September 11, 2008, 05:12:09 PM
is sound proofing together with rust proofing coating?

I did mine at TCM...300+....dun know got sound proof anot..like no diff...maybe mine dun have

Keromond, what is the exact price you paid for? Yours is 3M right?
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: Keromond on September 11, 2008, 10:46:26 PM
Keromond, what is the exact price you paid for? Yours is 3M right?


Bro...I paid 385 for it. They paste alot sticker on my car after it, only see 3M rust proofing, urs done at Ubi also rite? how much u paid
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: clarence on September 12, 2008, 01:12:07 PM
I paid only just over $200+ for my Tuff Kote undercarriage and wheel arch rust proofing.

It's basically coating a layer of tar ove rthese areas.

Sub standard work.

I discovered a lot of bare areas not covered by the tar.


Keromond,

How is the quality of your 3M rust proofing?
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: Keromond on September 12, 2008, 04:21:50 PM
I paid only just over $200+ for my Tuff Kote undercarriage and wheel arch rust proofing.

It's basically coating a layer of tar ove rthese areas.

Sub standard work.

I discovered a lot of bare areas not covered by the tar.


Keromond,

How is the quality of your 3M rust proofing?

Bro...mine..I not v experience to gauge it leh...maybe u tell me where to check? But wheel arch n tow bar area...all got cover
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on September 12, 2008, 04:57:51 PM
Keromond, what is the exact price you paid for? Yours is 3M right?


Was quoted by TCM for 385 also, does this inclusive of GST or net?
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: clarence on September 12, 2008, 05:37:08 PM
$385 is for undercarriage and wheel arch rustproofing only?

Or does it include sound proofing too?

Better clarify.
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on September 12, 2008, 08:34:20 PM
$385 is for undercarriage and wheel arch rustproofing only?

Or does it include sound proofing too?

Better clarify.


Have to check with my SE, she only mentioned about undercarriage and wheel arch rustproofing, NOT sound proofing. Thought sound proofing is part of rustproofing process?
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: arias48 on September 12, 2008, 08:36:18 PM
By the way, any bro/sis without rust proofing treatment has encounter rusting undercarriage and wheel arch?
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: Keromond on September 12, 2008, 11:24:29 PM
Was quoted by TCM for 385 also, does this inclusive of GST or net?

Bro...ya..incld GST. u did urs too?
Title: Re: Rust proofing required?
Post by: clarence on September 13, 2008, 08:20:48 PM
By the way, any bro/sis without rust proofing treatment has encounter rusting undercarriage and wheel arch?

Latio uses gavanised steel.

The oldest Latio on the road is only 3 yrs old.

I don't think it will rust at such an early stage.