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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: car_man on September 18, 2008, 08:16:18 PM

Title: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 18, 2008, 08:16:18 PM
8 months owning Latio sedan 4AT and many problems occur. :mad:

1)Whole interior lots of rattling noise.
2)Aircon not cold even at 18 degree
3)Sterring wheel turning got sound.
4)Engine noise becomes loud.

Sent to TCM and did the following

1)Insulate A pillar panel,side dashboard and center dashboard
2)resercure driver side aircon vent
3)Change snap ring for steering.
4)Change aircon cooling coil,thermo sensor and cavuum.Reset aircon system.
5)Change body comb,evaporator assy and amplifier.

Good thing is the advisory attend to all my problem,
now Car is back to normal like day 1,,,But the issue is "Is Latio really that reliable" :confused1:
Don't know when problem will start again. :(
My previous Corolla G9 at least will last longer before problem occur.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 18, 2008, 08:27:22 PM
Some say that it is "normal" for all new cars to have problem.

But just how much problem is "normal"?


http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=6780.0

http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=6491.0

http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=6537.0
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 18, 2008, 08:59:59 PM
I do know problem will occur and it is very normal as no car is made perfect.
But happening on a 8 months old car is way to fast for any Japan made car.
Maybe i would say Nissan use inferior material to manufacture car.
Seriously i do like latio interior and fuel consumption but if problems keep happening,it will change my point of view
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on September 18, 2008, 09:13:12 PM
Like buying anything else, heng heng one lor.  We also see in newspapers where cars that cost over 100K can also get problem.  If kenna get the lemon one, can only blame luck not good lor. (Dun mean to rub salt hor.)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Lorddraco on September 18, 2008, 09:44:34 PM
well .. that is one is many thousand I guess.. I wouldnt stay mine got problem. I have the following issue since I got my car in 2005.


1. Steering alignment - only fixed in 3rd time with HUGE complaint. That is TC problem in BT.
2. Dead Battery but lucky before 1 year warranty over. Changed for free.. but now I changed to Amaron Maint-free batt once and for all.
3. Aircon (need to be 20 to be cool) Reset Aircon .. Now 26 can be very cold liao!!! Typical at 27 nia.
4. Rattling Engine or Noisy Engine - Timing Belt Tighting or Change .. this only happen ever 40K. (mine over 80 liao)

otherwise .. I am an happy owner...

Well .. as what other mention, heng and suay...

I do agree that G9 is really a good model. But also got own problem.. like brother-in-law G9 backdoor hinge (the black color elbow) got broken only after 4 years.. which typical wouldnt spolit at all....

We also has member here got really a bad lemon that ended up changing whole car ... but also got happy owner like me.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Novellus Legends on September 18, 2008, 10:03:07 PM
U "buy" a wife also no guarantee good
Ppl buy "AIA" also now no guarantee
what else is certain in these kind of world nowadays
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Lorddraco on September 18, 2008, 10:21:43 PM
U "buy" a wife also no guarantee good
Ppl buy "AIA" also now no guarantee
what else is certain in these kind of world nowadays

Guess there is no guarantee at all lor ..there is always risk.. even the largest of the player also got risk and fall from grace. Just like Lehmann Bros .. one of the largest investment bank that files for Chap 11. haiz ..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on September 18, 2008, 11:32:27 PM
ya lor..just bought used latio premium 2 mths ago..just about few b4 warranty expire, notice the centre lock is faulty and rush back to TC. Managed to replace with FOC  :thumbsup: As of now, everything is fine except the Fc still not up the optimum (only ~12km/l vs most of the lation can hit ~14km/l)..overall -> 90% sastifaction. :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 19, 2008, 12:24:40 AM
I am getting less than 12km/l.

12km/l is considered economical for 1500cc auto car.

Those who get 14km/l probably travel >80% highway driving and are very light footed.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 19, 2008, 01:53:02 AM
some noise and what not, IMHO... is small problem. it's not as if the car cannot move or go dead. depend on your driving style, some heng-sway, and also how u maintain your car, and how picky you are, your level of complain will vary. i've driven continental cars, vans, old old old jap cars, i can safely say latio seems decent. when volvo s40 was first launched my parents had the entire engine go kaput and replaced. major operation. within 5 years the car has changed brake pump, engine mounts, etc. so like many said, no car is perfect. but one thing for sure, the 2.4l S40 achieve 10km/l 50/50 driving, which is very very good FC! my latio so far is 12.x km/l on 70/30 driving pattern.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 19, 2008, 07:23:27 AM
Problem occur as early as 8 month is unacceptable for any new car. Somemore i'm not a heavy user. Do u guys driving latio when travelling unbalance road or holes on the road, the dashboard will have plastic noise? Just like driving a 5 years old car, where u will hear squeaking sound and plastic sound all over.
Even now my car is fix, i still do get to hear some noise but still acceptable compare to the status before repair.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: gh05tss on September 19, 2008, 09:10:43 AM
Car_man, let me share with you my problem.

3rd month, battery went dead...totally dead..even TCM recovery guy was puzzled how can it be dead flat till no cabin lights even. Got it change free of charge, only waited them for 1hr during Sunday.

Steering sounds...complaint during my 10k servicing...after 2week, cable arrive from Japan and got it change.

So far these are what I encounter but I still a happy owner of my Latio...despite I getting 10.5km FC but...living with it now.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 19, 2008, 09:15:37 AM
I am getting less than 12km/l.

12km/l is considered economical for 1500cc auto car.

Those who get 14km/l probably travel >80% highway driving and are very light footed.

Really? Then I guess I should stop feeling upset when my latio only give me 12.5 quite consistently...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 19, 2008, 09:19:48 AM
And also let me tell you that thoe who brag about their 1400cc Honda Jazz getting 21km/l and 1800cc Toyota Wish getting 16km/l are all tall tales.

I've spoken to so many owners and all said they are puzzled how such remarkable fuel economy could be achieved. They tried pumping petrol to full and run 80% highway and still cannot achieve anything close.

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 19, 2008, 09:36:14 AM
thanks...but there are some guys in this forum here mentioned tat they can hit 300km at half tank...i think it is almost near impossible. Hard as I tried to let my car roll most of the time and use less of the brake...I can only achieve 250km at half tank...:confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: gh05tss on September 19, 2008, 09:40:35 AM
thanks...but there are some guys in this forum here mentioned tat they can hit 300km at half tank...i think it is almost near impossible. Hard as I tried to let my car roll most of the time and use less of the brake...I can only achieve 250km at half tank...:confused1:

My quite heavy foot gets 200km at half tanks...but drive till so tough for what? For me driving is like enjoying the journey on the road, car ride comfy is important...FC is secondary
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 19, 2008, 09:43:33 AM
My quite heavy foot gets 200km at half tanks...but drive till so tough for what? For me driving is like enjoying the journey on the road, car ride comfy is important...FC is secondary

Bro...if follow ur logic...I would have bought either a Mazda 2 or a swift...and not a latio...hahah...:devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: gh05tss on September 19, 2008, 09:56:10 AM
Bro...if follow ur logic...I would have bought either a Mazda 2 or a swift...and not a latio...hahah...:devil2:

You mean Mazda 2 n swift is more comfy in terms of ride?

I went for a round of shopping before I went back to a Nissan Car, during Feb 08, I went to test most of the hatched back series. None of them come close to the comfort I get from Latio. I didn't even test drive the latio and I view Latio last from my list, only have a few minutes of sitting in the show room when I sign the dotted line

Compare the techy specs, which hatchback give u, Auto headlight, keyless entry, ion aircon, alcantara leather seats etc

Space wise, even my friend who driving a BMW 5series praised on the legroom he is getting from this small car.

Then again...to each his/her own.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 19, 2008, 10:03:03 AM
You mean Mazda 2 n swift is more comfy in terms of ride?

I went for a round of shopping before I went back to a Nissan Car, during Feb 08, I went to test most of the hatched back series. None of them come close to the comfort I get from Latio. I didn't even test drive the latio and I view Latio last from my list, only have a few minutes of sitting in the show room when I sign the dotted line

Compare the techy specs, which hatchback give u, Auto headlight, keyless entry, ion aircon, alcantara leather seats etc

Space wise, even my friend who driving a BMW 5series praised on the legroom he is getting from this small car.

Then again...to each his/her own.

Maybe I should be more specific....I am one that view the comfort of the driver seat above all else....at least M2 has a very comfortable driver seat....as for the passengers...i couldn't care less as 90% of the time I am either alone or with my hubby in the car...

I always find the driver seat of latio a bit too high...I felt like I am driving a van when I first got my latio...i wan to be able to relax and slouch in my driver seat when i drive...

however..the FC combines with the cheaper car price beats all other smaller cars down...hence the purchase of latio lor... :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: alangohek on September 19, 2008, 10:05:37 AM
thanks...but there are some guys in this forum here mentioned tat they can hit 300km at half tank...i think it is almost near impossible. Hard as I tried to let my car roll most of the time and use less of the brake...I can only achieve 250km at half tank...:confused1:
I agree on this.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: gh05tss on September 19, 2008, 10:08:35 AM
Maybe I should be more specific....I am one that view the comfort of the driver seat above all else....at least M2 has a very comfortable driver seat....as for the passengers...i couldn't care less as 90% of the time I am either alone or with my hubby in the car...

I always find the driver seat of latio a bit too high...I felt like I am driving a van when I first got my latio...i wan to be able to relax and slouch in my driver seat when i drive...

however..the FC combines with the cheaper car price beats all other smaller cars down...hence the purchase of latio lor... :yehyeh:

Mazda 2 seat....hmmm....wow i didn't pay that much attention how comfy is was...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Indignant on September 19, 2008, 10:15:32 AM
My quite heavy foot gets 200km at half tanks...but drive till so tough for what? For me driving is like enjoying the journey on the road, car ride comfy is important...FC is secondary

Yo bro ghostss, agree with u on this point fully. maybe dat's y my fc also around 11.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 19, 2008, 10:17:24 AM
Mazda 2 seat....hmmm....wow i didn't pay that much attention how comfy is was...

Actually it depends very much on how u usually like to sit to drive...for all the different cars i have driven...i always adjust the seat to the lowest and incline the back rest a little to give me the nice couch-seat feel when i drive...

Despite this...if u intend to get a family car...latio is the one...all my family members prefer me to drive latio to fetch them ard rather than my mazda 3....they complained the back of mazda 3 is too cramp for them...however, the front seat of mazda 3 and 2 are couch-like...where u can sit and relax... :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: gh05tss on September 19, 2008, 10:42:28 AM
Actually it depends very much on how u usually like to sit to drive...for all the different cars i have driven...i always adjust the seat to the lowest and incline the back rest a little to give me the nice couch-seat feel when i drive...

Despite this...if u intend to get a family car...latio is the one...all my family members prefer me to drive latio to fetch them ard rather than my mazda 3....they complained the back of mazda 3 is too cramp for them...however, the front seat of mazda 3 and 2 are couch-like...where u can sit and relax... :yehyeh:

I was driving a Sunny before latio ( that's the reason y i view latio last, thot to change brand )...it low..Crouch like seats are comfy, i agree with you and alcantara leather are comfy too :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Lorddraco on September 19, 2008, 12:04:36 PM
well ... Some post here .. there shouldnt be any problem within 8 month of the car. But I will beg to differ, why? Cause Cars is a complex construction, any no manufacturer can guarantee 100% fault free, even with same manufacturing procedure, parts and etc. Even big brands like BMW and Mercs do recalls of their cars which supposedly be higher built quality. But as mention, it really depends on luck, some here kinda of lucky or perhaps they aint that picky that they didnt encounter much.

As for FC... really depends on the road traffic condition, plus how heavy your foot is plus how often you travel in highway in constant speed of average 80km/hr.

I consider myself as heavy footer and for most of the time, I average around 11 to 12 (Got bros here less than 11 somemore). But I do admit I cannot achieve 14km/hr, but I do hit 13.9km/hr for a few time since I got this car. So I do not think it is impossible. :P
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Ying on September 19, 2008, 01:13:45 PM
Yes I got some problem here and there too, but me and my family really enjoy the car. It is so comfy and smooth.

600km per tank? I believe it, I ever hit 550+km 90% hw with my CVT before tire change and adding VS. That time was new to latio so drive less than 100kmh. Now, ~10km/l

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: dsrio on September 19, 2008, 02:08:04 PM
i also believe 600km is no problem, i normally reach 530km then go top up around 37-38l of petrol, 14km/l is no problem  to me. Of course mine is mostly highway driving, my previous kia rio which is manual i can travel till 600km then go top up same amt of petrol so i believe it depends on your driving pattern & style.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 19, 2008, 02:36:56 PM
Can you share with us your driving habits on how you achieve such remarkable fuel economy?

1) % highway/city driving?
2) Brand and RON petrol used?
3) Tyre Pressure?
4) Driving with air con turned on or off?
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night?
6) Brand of engine oil used?
7) Mileage?
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself?
9) Any modifications done to your car?
10) Do you use any after market additives?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 19, 2008, 03:01:36 PM
I've been tracking FC ever since day 1 (every tank I pump is noted down). So far my average FC is 12.2km/l through entire vehicle lifespan. My last 3 tanks averaged 12.5km/l. Mine is YOM 2007 model and I reset my ECU once. The reset did make a difference to my FC... so maybe you wanna try.

I would say I'm average footer. If nothing and am relaxed, i will usually let the engine change gear near 2,200 rpm or thereof. If it's peak hour, in a rush, or need to go toilet... i will drive it like i stole it  :out:

1) % highway/city driving? 50/50, considering the daily jam on AYE/Tj Pagar
2) Brand and RON petrol used? Esso 5000 (95)
3) Tyre Pressure? 2psi above spec (33R,35F i think)
4) Driving with air con turned on or off? Turned on, about 25-27 deg C
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night? More during night, but drive to work in morning 9-10 am
6) Brand of engine oil used? Mineral from TCM
7) Mileage? 6700+ km
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself? Average 2 persons
9) Any modifications done to your car? Stock 4AT with DS3 body kit
10) Do you use any after market additives? NO, I think they are snake oils
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on September 19, 2008, 03:03:36 PM
i also believe 600km is no problem, i normally reach 530km then go top up around 37-38l of petrol, 14km/l is no problem  to me. Of course mine is mostly highway driving, my previous kia rio which is manual i can travel till 600km then go top up same amt of petrol so i believe it depends on your driving pattern & style.

I also believe it depends on your driving style.. I used to drive a KIA Picanto and it can give me 14-15km/l.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jo_Lee on September 19, 2008, 04:04:15 PM
For me, mostly highway driving...been consistantly getting 13 to 13.5km/l ever since 5k servicing...last tank got 14km/l

1) % highway/city driving? 80/20
2) Brand and RON petrol used? Jan to Aug = Shell 95, Sep = Esso 5000 (past 3 tanks)
3) Tyre Pressure? Front 230-245, Back 210-225 (didnt check regularly, only I remember then I pump)
4) Driving with air con turned on or off? Air con on 99% of the time at 25C fan speed 1, unless I'm down with flu :p
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night? Mostly day
6) Brand of engine oil used? TCM in-house EO
7) Mileage? about 10k (going for servicing soon)
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself? Myself alone 99% of the time
9) Any modifications done to your car? Stock, nothing but stock (only change rim on 3rd day after collecting car)
10) Do you use any after market additives? what's that ??
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Ying on September 19, 2008, 04:13:17 PM
k, I try. I still get 14+km/l when drive I drive to KL.

1) % highway/city driving? 
          90% hw + 1hour jam at tuas.
2) Brand and RON petrol used?
          Esso 98
3) Tyre Pressure?
          230/210  front back, 185/65/15 GR80
4) Driving with air con turned on or off?
          fan level  2, 25"C
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night?
          Day time
6) Brand of engine oil used?
          TCM oil.. shogun
7) Mileage?
          42000km+
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself?
          Toddler on car seat, 3 adults + many stuff in boot.
9) Any modifications done to your car?
          strut bar, ARB, VS, Spark VS, grounding.
10) Do you use any after market additives?
          No.

Try to maintain constant rpm say 2000rpm, means 0 acceleration. Base on your load and car condition, you try to cruise at different speed to find the optimum speed with lowest rpm. Eg. Between 100kmh@2000rpm vs 130kmh@2500rpm. which one better?...

look behind and ahead, drive with your head. you can minimise brake and overtake car with 0 acceleration which save your oil. So my FC tips only apply for NSHW driving. In City, I just drive lah... if FC is sooo important for city driving, I will get a Kancil lah:thumbsup: can overtake Latio anytime.


ans 130
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fickle on September 19, 2008, 06:22:46 PM
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this is what i get for my latio saloon cvt at 1/2 tank mark.

Just pumped petrol when the low fuel light came on.  Squeezed in 36 litres at mileage of 580km.  Around 16km/litre.

1) % highway/city driving?
          75% hw 25% city
2) Brand and RON petrol used?
          Caltex 95
3) Tyre Pressure?
          240 to 245 for both front back, stock toyo
4) Driving with air con turned on or off?
          Always on, 21-22, fan speed 1-2
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night?
          Day and night
6) Brand of engine oil used?
          TCM Oil, Mineral (below 10k)
7) Mileage?
          7000km+
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself?
          1-2 adults + small bags in boot (include spare tyre).
9) Any modifications done to your car?
          original bodykit, nothing else
10) Do you use any after market additives?
          No

One thing to note, i'm very light footed.  Seldom rev above 2k...  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: malmot on September 19, 2008, 09:22:44 PM
Had my 2007 latio A/T only for the last 2 weeks, have also done my 1k servicing on my 8th day at around 1200km. I do travel alot as in real estate line. 50% highway/50% city in travelling. Fuel wise hitting around 13.8k consistantly for the first 2 tanks, now on my 3rd tank and tracking if after 1k servicing got any impact, happy to say at half tank still seeing close to 240km which means about 480 - 500 till next top up or about 13.5 to 13.8km/litre. Petrol only SPC 95 to date.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 19, 2008, 09:35:11 PM
Car_man, let me share with you my problem.

3rd month, battery went dead...totally dead..even TCM recovery guy was puzzled how can it be dead flat till no cabin lights even. Got it change free of charge, only waited them for 1hr during Sunday.

Steering sounds...complaint during my 10k servicing...after 2week, cable arrive from Japan and got it change.

So far these are what I encounter but I still a happy owner of my Latio...despite I getting 10.5km FC but...living with it now.


Wah!!! Getting only 10.5km/l is abit low for latio..Your foot must be quite heavy  ::)
I'm getting around 13.6km/l on average worst is about 11.5 to 12km/l but not 10.5.Must have some problem or you must have installed aftermarket enhance products.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 19, 2008, 09:39:30 PM
I agree on this.

Me too. Best i can get is about 230km at half tank. Quite impossible to get 250km and above as i'm already very light footed.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 19, 2008, 09:43:30 PM
well ... Some post here .. there shouldnt be any problem within 8 month of the car. But I will beg to differ, why? Cause Cars is a complex construction, any no manufacturer can guarantee 100% fault free, even with same manufacturing procedure, parts and etc. Even big brands like BMW and Mercs do recalls of their cars which supposedly be higher built quality. But as mention, it really depends on luck, some here kinda of lucky or perhaps they aint that picky that they didnt encounter much.

As for FC... really depends on the road traffic condition, plus how heavy your foot is plus how often you travel in highway in constant speed of average 80km/hr.

I consider myself as heavy footer and for most of the time, I average around 11 to 12 (Got bros here less than 11 somemore). But I do admit I cannot achieve 14km/hr, but I do hit 13.9km/hr for a few time since I got this car. So I do not think it is impossible. :P

I would say it's depend on luck more than the specs of the car :D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 19, 2008, 09:45:19 PM
Maybe need to reset ECU as some forumers suggested?   :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 19, 2008, 09:51:31 PM
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this is what i get for my latio saloon cvt at 1/2 tank mark.

Just pumped petrol when the low fuel light came on.  Squeezed in 36 litres at mileage of 580km.  Around 16km/litre.

1) % highway/city driving?
          75% hw 25% city
2) Brand and RON petrol used?
          Caltex 95
3) Tyre Pressure?
          240 to 245 for both front back, stock toyo
4) Driving with air con turned on or off?
          Always on, 21-22, fan speed 1-2
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night?
          Day and night
6) Brand of engine oil used?
          TCM Oil, Mineral (below 10k)
7) Mileage?
          7000km+
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself?
          1-2 adults + small bags in boot (include spare tyre).
9) Any modifications done to your car?
          original bodykit, nothing else
10) Do you use any after market additives?
          No

One thing to note, i'm very light footed.  Seldom rev above 2k...  :smile:
Wow!!! That's is amazing. :thumbsup: Been driving 4at for 8 months and never got this kind of result even when i was posted to tus for a few months. And by the way i stay in AMK so allthe way HW to tuas and back is 90KM and best is 230km/l only
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on September 19, 2008, 09:52:22 PM
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this is what i get for my latio saloon cvt at 1/2 tank mark.

Just pumped petrol when the low fuel light came on.  Squeezed in 36 litres at mileage of 580km.  Around 16km/litre.

1) % highway/city driving?
          75% hw 25% city
2) Brand and RON petrol used?
          Caltex 95
3) Tyre Pressure?
          240 to 245 for both front back, stock toyo
4) Driving with air con turned on or off?
          Always on, 21-22, fan speed 1-2
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night?
          Day and night
6) Brand of engine oil used?
          TCM Oil, Mineral (below 10k)
7) Mileage?
          7000km+
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself?
          1-2 adults + small bags in boot (include spare tyre).
9) Any modifications done to your car?
          original bodykit, nothing else
10) Do you use any after market additives?
          No

One thing to note, i'm very light footed.  Seldom rev above 2k...  :smile:

When you pumped too high for your rear tyre, becareful on wet roads, it will sway if hard braking.  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on September 19, 2008, 10:59:32 PM
For me i have been consistantly getting 15km/l for the last 2 tanks after i change to carlube 5-40w synthetic oil and the last tank my car was left idiling with aircon on for about total of 2 hours with wife and kid inside while i go for errands and on my way back from jb jam on the causeway if not i think can easily get 16km/l......for me i used the hard break in for my engine during the first 1k running in period...during run in is 12km/l getting better with each tank.....dun fight against slopes where possible i go around 90 normally but i can be a bit siao sometimes wack until 5k rpm sometimes enjoy the adrenalin of driving fast fast :yehyeh:


1) % highway/city driving? 70/30
2) Brand and RON petrol used? mobil 5000
3) Tyre Pressure? Front 270, Back 250
4) Driving with air con turned on or off? Air con on 100% set temp at 23-24
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night? 50/50
6) Brand of engine oil used? carlube 5-40w
7) Mileage? 8k+
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself? 3-4ppl
9) Any modifications done to your car? ez-stab and spark bridge
10) Do you use any after market additives? never before.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 19, 2008, 11:16:23 PM
what?! 300km at half mark? that's like impossible lah. i have tried revving below 2k rpm in but it doesnt see to make a difference leh. so nowadays i just wack only lah. if need to rev, i rev. no need to rev, i dont rev.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on September 19, 2008, 11:21:20 PM
U guys heard a famous saying? Nothing is impossible....my last 2 tank halfway mark reach 300 + abit
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 20, 2008, 12:25:09 AM
Ok are you guys CVT or 4AT? I think it is critical to state the transmission type too. I really cant seem to get that kinda mileage out of 4AT.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Lorddraco on September 20, 2008, 12:41:43 AM
Note that more can be pumped into the tank after the gun click. I have estimate that at least slightly more than 2 litre can be pump.

The "real" full tank from previous and after you pump makes a lot of difference in your estimate also. Plus the distance you travel, if daily you travel less than 10km or even less than 15km... even you are mostly on highway, it wouldnt meet you can meet better mileage. Lots of cranking means more petrol consume also ...

cheers.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on September 20, 2008, 12:49:01 AM
mine is cvt and i am loving it :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: chansm78 on September 20, 2008, 01:05:06 AM
Hi Guys,

  Just got my car in end Aug, CVT. I think maintain at 90-100km/h do helps.

1st tank --- 12.7km/l
2nd tank --- 12.9km/l
3rd tank --- 14.9km/l
4th tank --- 14.3km/l
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: alangohek on September 20, 2008, 09:37:48 AM
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(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi36.tinypic.com%2F2dw9qhl.jpg&hash=f3b00e6cd236e58ef45c186be12b428a42ea2969)

this is what i get for my latio saloon cvt at 1/2 tank mark.

Just pumped petrol when the low fuel light came on.  Squeezed in 36 litres at mileage of 580km.  Around 16km/litre.

1) % highway/city driving?
          75% hw 25% city
2) Brand and RON petrol used?
          Caltex 95
3) Tyre Pressure?
          240 to 245 for both front back, stock toyo
4) Driving with air con turned on or off?
          Always on, 21-22, fan speed 1-2
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night?
          Day and night
6) Brand of engine oil used?
          TCM Oil, Mineral (below 10k)
7) Mileage?
          7000km+
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself?
          1-2 adults + small bags in boot (include spare tyre).
9) Any modifications done to your car?
          original bodykit, nothing else
10) Do you use any after market additives?
          No

One thing to note, i'm very light footed.  Seldom rev above 2k...  :smile:
The manufacturer recommendation is 230/210 for front and back tyre respectively.

I think is better to stick to the recommended difference between the front and the back.

For me I pump 250/230 and find my car lighter than if I were to pump 230/210. Our car got high CG so got to be careful when cornering man.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: dsrio on September 20, 2008, 10:06:10 AM
1) % highway/city driving?
80/20, mostly highway from sengkang to bukit batok
2) Brand and RON petrol used?
caltex silver, actually used to use mobil, spc also used before, no difference it seems
3) Tyre Pressure?
as recommended on the door panel, 210 & 230 if i remember correctly
4) Driving with air con turned on or off?
singapore weather must on aircon during the day, sometimes at night i do off aircon if the weather is cool, i set at 26 degrees
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night?
varies as i work shift so travel day & night equally
6) Brand of engine oil used?
amsoil
7) Mileage?
nearing 38k
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself?
mostly myself, wifey & bb half the times
9) Any modifications done to your car?
totally stock
10) Do you use any after market additives?
nope

just to add on, mine is cvt sedan
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: unreal on September 20, 2008, 12:56:59 PM
Hi All,

1) % highway/city driving?
60/40- Upp Thomson to Alexandria via Farrer and sometimes PIE

2) Brand and RON petrol used?
Shell 95

3) Tyre Pressure?
220/240 @night

4) Driving with air con turned on or off?
A/C on for 80% of time at 24-25 degrees

5) Drive mostly during the day or at night?
early morn and late evening

6) Brand of engine oil used?
from T/C

7) Mileage?
approx 45k

8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself?
50%- 2 adults, 50% -3-4 adults

9) Any modifications done to your car?
totally stock

10) Do you use any after market additives?
Spark bridge grounding by fellow member


Before changing from Stock Toyo Tyres
FC between 14-15.5 km/litre
(light footed, maintain eng rev not exceeding 2.2k, mostly accelerate to 2k and maintain crusing 1.5k or below)

Now
12.5-13.5 km/lite after tyre change in Tan Chong.

Model-Latio Premium (YOM 2005)


FC is one of the best i have achieved after driving previous manual Lancer, manual Sunny and Corolla
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 20, 2008, 01:52:19 PM
I think those driver who achieved FC above 13.5km/l consistently must have wings on their legs......or some sort of deficiency on their right foot.......impossible.....:devil2: :devil2: :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: CustomGolf on September 20, 2008, 02:31:03 PM
thanks...but there are some guys in this forum here mentioned tat they can hit 300km at half tank...i think it is almost near impossible. Hard as I tried to let my car roll most of the time and use less of the brake...I can only achieve 250km at half tank...:confused1:

Shhh, let you in on a secret, they come down and push their car in the night instead of driving it. That's how they get 16km. My 4AT has always been in the 12+km range with normal driving. BTW, my normal may not be your normal.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fickle on September 20, 2008, 02:52:07 PM
When you pumped too high for your rear tyre, becareful on wet roads, it will sway if hard braking.  :smile:

so far so good, but intend to reduce it slightly to 230 - 235 for the rear.  :)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fickle on September 20, 2008, 02:56:04 PM
The manufacturer recommendation is 230/210 for front and back tyre respectively.

I think is better to stick to the recommended difference between the front and the back.

For me I pump 250/230 and find my car lighter than if I were to pump 230/210. Our car got high CG so got to be careful when cornering man.

thanks for the advice.  Will adjust it according the next pump..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 20, 2008, 03:00:22 PM
it also depends on ur wheel size.....if u have bigger and wider wheels...there will be better grip on the ground...but i guess bigger wheels also means bad FC....but please do take care as latio really high CG and not so gd with conering especially on wet roads....:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: sengkang on September 20, 2008, 10:09:25 PM
Car_man, let me share with you my problem.

3rd month, battery went dead...totally dead..even TCM recovery guy was puzzled how can it be dead flat till no cabin lights even. Got it change free of charge, only waited them for 1hr during Sunday.

Steering sounds...complaint during my 10k servicing...after 2week, cable arrive from Japan and got it change.

So far these are what I encounter but I still a happy owner of my Latio...despite I getting 10.5km FC but...living with it now.
Bro I have changed rear spring in 6 months, steering coupling in 2nd yr and now 6 months later, steering joint! FC ard 10km/h only Highway/city 50/50
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: gh05tss on September 20, 2008, 10:12:39 PM
Bro I have changed rear spring in 6 months, steering coupling in 2nd yr and now 6 months later, steering joint! FC ard 10km/h only Highway/city 50/50

Latio seems to be a car, either u hate it or u love it. :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 20, 2008, 11:19:59 PM
I think those driver who achieved FC above 13.5km/l consistently must have wings on their legs......or some sort of deficiency on their right foot.......impossible.....:devil2: :devil2: :devil2:

Getting 13.5 to 14 is quite normal for any latio unless u mod. So far me constantly 13.5 ++. ::)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: nymin9 on September 21, 2008, 12:29:09 AM
been getting at least 14.2. ever hit 16.75 when off aircon and maintain 2k rpm. regular driving is about 90 to 100km/hr. from sengkang to thomson .
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 21, 2008, 03:46:06 AM
guys please state CVT or 4AT. it seems 14 and above is only CVT... :)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: totallypatrick on September 21, 2008, 08:05:55 AM
abt 1 yr 2 mths car - changed air con compressor and steering coupling yesterday. Before that have service my rear brakes (noisy) and air-con not cold. FC average 12.3/L on 17" with some mods. 50/50 city/highway driving. Used to be 14+ km/L on 16" but that is 70/30 highway/city driving and mine is 4AT
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 21, 2008, 08:53:46 AM
guys please state CVT or 4AT. it seems 14 and above is only CVT... :)
Mine is 4AT but am getting 13.5 to 14 constantly with some heavy foot on every tank.Normally rev around 2.3k rpm.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 21, 2008, 09:01:08 AM
Du you guys warm up in the morning and after parking for sometime before going OFF! Felt that latio car cool down very fast.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Everince on September 21, 2008, 09:15:03 AM
so far being driving my latio for about 3 year..still loving it...still an economy car as compare to many other...   btw, it good to warm up the car before u drive off every morning...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on September 21, 2008, 11:57:21 AM
so far being driving my latio for about 3 year..still loving it...still an economy car as compare to many other...   btw, it good to warm up the car before u drive off every morning...

I thou warm up theory is for every old car or driver?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: CustomGolf on September 21, 2008, 01:35:29 PM
I thou warm up theory is for every old car or driver?

By any chance you're talking about me? I warm up the car going down the MSCP so I don't waste time and petrol. ;D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: nick3288 on September 21, 2008, 02:10:10 PM
By any chance you're talking about me? I warm up the car going down the MSCP so I don't waste time and petrol. ;D


I tried that b4 but feel the swifting of transmission gear from "P" to "D" abit stiff if not pre-warm up.. ! Worry maybe the auto gear transmission fluid need to warm up for smooth switft so still wait for 1-2 mins b4 move the car..

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: apoca on September 21, 2008, 03:22:59 PM

I tried that b4 but feel the swifting of transmission gear from "P" to "D" abit stiff if not pre-warm up.. ! Worry maybe the auto gear transmission fluid need to warm up for smooth switft so still wait for 1-2 mins b4 move the car..



Yes. I realise sometimes during startup, the shifting from P to D is very stiff.. need to use some force to pull and engage.. anyone knows why?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 21, 2008, 08:28:00 PM
Yes. I realise sometimes during startup, the shifting from P to D is very stiff.. need to use some force to pull and engage.. anyone knows why?


Ya me too. Sometime it so hard that you will hear a tok sound when change from P to D. If we don't warm up in the morning, will the engine get louder as days go by?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on September 21, 2008, 09:30:48 PM
I usually warm up my car till the blue icon is off being moving off, maybe this also contribute not a good FC for my car.  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on September 21, 2008, 09:51:46 PM
I read from the tips book from TCM.. its better to warm up about 30sec before moving off..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 22, 2008, 09:15:03 AM
CVT refers to manual version? Mine is 4AT version....anyway...now trying out on current tank...rev at 2000 or below....don't drive abt 90kph as above tat will cause rpm to go beyond 2000....let the car roll as much as possible...became one of those "idiots" on the highway tat drive slow and on or near right lane....contributed to the slow traffic which eventually might cause ERP charges to go up to ease the traffic...target is to achieve 300km at half tank.....will post results here once i finished this tank...

btw, tried the KPE this morning....quite nice to drive in...especially for drivers who like to have their car rolling to improve FC.....70 or less....:devil2: :devil2: :devil2: :devil2:

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jo_Lee on September 22, 2008, 09:41:53 AM
mine also 4AT...been getting 13 to 13.5km/l ever since my 5k servicing...never drop below 13km/l...
me consider not so light-footed...sometime rev up to 3K when overtaking..normal pickup after stop will rev to 2.5k..
highway speed always at 90 to 100km/h so rev shld be above 2k..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Silver on September 22, 2008, 10:17:45 AM
CVT refers to manual version?

....let the car roll as much as possible...became one of those "idiots" on the highway tat drive slow and on or near right lane....contributed to the slow traffic which eventually might cause ERP charges to go up to ease the traffic...


CVT = Continously Variable Transmission

please do everyone a favour - please do not be one of those who drive slow on the right lane (unless turning right at the next junction)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 22, 2008, 10:36:09 AM
CVT = Continously Variable Transmission

please do everyone a favour - please do not be one of those who drive slow on the right lane (unless turning right at the next junction)


You know wat is the problem?? Left lane too slow, often need to brake and pick up speed again...so right lane is the best....can maintain cruising speed of 80kph....:bleh: :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:

Dun worry...I dun like pple to drive slow on the right most lane....usually...if i intend to roll my car...i will keep off the right lane...haha....:thumbsup:

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Silver on September 22, 2008, 10:38:15 AM
if on expressway, better to be on second lane (from right) if at 80 kph
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Ying on September 22, 2008, 10:42:36 AM
I did get 16km/l during one of my trip to KL, that was with old toyo stock tire. Seldom touch 16km/l after changing tire. The 2008 new Latio also fit with the same toyo tire, guess the FC will be better with toyo tyre but I prefer safer wet tire even at the cost of FC. If you mainly drive aroud city and FC is very important to you can try Toyo tire next time.

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: gh05tss on September 22, 2008, 11:01:55 AM
if on expressway, better to be on second lane (from right) if at 80 kph

Correct...those on your Petrol Savin Quest, please use the centre lane cos at 80-90km/h in a clear Highway really makes u like a total idiot
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: ckyc on September 22, 2008, 11:15:58 AM

Ya me too. Sometime it so hard that you will hear a tok sound when change from P to D. If we don't warm up in the morning, will the engine get louder as days go by?

For those who sometimes experience gear shift difficulty from P, chances are because this is a safety feature as your car is not on parked on flat surface. this was told to my by TC tpy but i realise through experience it is somewhat true
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 22, 2008, 03:33:59 PM
mm time to bring my car to autosavers for ECU checkup... hmm
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Latiorarri on September 22, 2008, 04:15:00 PM
Which brach u all usually go??

Btw, check out autosavers web page...

they have some promo for the 2008 Motorshow...

http://www.autosaver.com.sg/
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: nick3288 on September 22, 2008, 05:36:20 PM
For those who sometimes experience gear shift difficulty from P, chances are because this is a safety feature as your car is not on parked on flat surface. this was told to my by TC tpy but i realise through experience it is somewhat true


Not so true ler bro.. I'm refering to same MSCP in my estate ler.. if warm up or while engine still hot.. it's smooth..! Stiff when engine still cool...
 ;)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 22, 2008, 08:46:19 PM
Not so true ler bro.. I'm refering to same MSCP in my estate ler.. if warm up or while engine still hot.. it's smooth..! Stiff when engine still cool...
 ;)


Maybe MSCP not flat :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: ckyc on September 23, 2008, 12:00:25 AM
Not so true ler bro.. I'm refering to same MSCP in my estate ler.. if warm up or while engine still hot.. it's smooth..! Stiff when engine still cool...
 ;)

Is it? oh then maybe next time u let TC know also - see if their story gel with mine. i usually dun warm up my car. on engine, on aircon, seatbeat and leg brake, on light and go liao.. usually warm up 5 second nia
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 23, 2008, 08:46:28 AM
Is it? oh then maybe next time u let TC know also - see if their story gel with mine. i usually dun warm up my car. on engine, on aircon, seatbeat and leg brake, on light and go liao.. usually warm up 5 second nia


I dun know abt latio....my previous car, toyota altis, had it for 2yrs and 10mths...through this time, i never once turned off a/c and radio when i turned off my car. Meaning when i start the engine, the a/c and radio will start immed. by the time i changed the car, there were times i had to crank a few times to start the car. but then, this also means tat i had used the same battery for 2yrs and 10mths...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 23, 2008, 12:44:46 PM
Which brach u all usually go??

Btw, check out autosavers web page...

they have some promo for the 2008 Motorshow...

http://www.autosaver.com.sg/


Really dirt cheap, compared to prices at Tan Chong and Autosaver uses original brake pads too, not OEM.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 23, 2008, 01:32:08 PM
i'll head to the one near IMM since it's near my house :)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: alangohek on September 23, 2008, 06:36:20 PM

Maybe MSCP not flat :confused1:
Unlikely =)

For me, I hear the sound when I change from P to R when car moves from a stationary position downhill.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LaChio on September 24, 2008, 12:38:28 AM
thanks...but there are some guys in this forum here mentioned tat they can hit 300km at half tank...i think it is almost near impossible. Hard as I tried to let my car roll most of the time and use less of the brake...I can only achieve 250km at half tank...:confused1:
Er.... sorry, who said it's impossible to hit 300km at half tank? I am now getting 333.7km and the the needle is still only halfway between 1/2 and 3/4. :yehyeh:
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F23092008012.jpg&hash=33330ce4cf5bb1698abafcac7ee3ef2b2aae28c9)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: vardaquare on September 24, 2008, 12:46:46 AM
Er.... sorry, who said it's impossible to hit 300km at half tank? I am now getting 333.7km and the the needle is still only halfway between 1/2 and 3/4. :yehyeh:
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F23092008012.jpg&hash=33330ce4cf5bb1698abafcac7ee3ef2b2aae28c9)

Wow quite impressive. My Ride only gives me around 180km at halfway line haha.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 24, 2008, 12:51:30 AM
Lachio,

You have very impressive fuel economy.

What brand of petrol do you pump and how many octane?

What are your driving habits like and how many % city/highway driving?

How many KPa do you pump your tyre pressure?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LaChio on September 24, 2008, 02:48:19 AM
Lachio,

You have very impressive fuel economy.

What brand of petrol do you pump and how many octane?

What are your driving habits like and how many % city/highway driving?

How many KPa do you pump your tyre pressure?

Just changed CVT fluid at 60k servicing. Been using Mobil Gold 0W40 engine oil since 20k. Using Rays Gram Lights 16" rims (6 kg), Ez stab, sparkbridge, Hurricane SS filter, 3M solar film & DIY aircon pipe insulation. No other mods.

Running on Malaysian Mobil 97 petrol. Not a 2000RPMer, just drive the way I like depending on traffic conditions and my mood :devil2:. Hit 3000RPM quite often and even more when I chiong amber light. 60/40 highway-city. Tyre pressure 34 front and 32 rear.

FC 13+ (used to get consistent 12.5 before) but don't know how come now improve.

Something to share. Read somewhere in the internet which said that a 1 kg reduction in the weight of the wheel is equivalent to a reduction of 16 kg in weight (per wheel) the car carries. That is to say if you change your wheel to one that is 1 kg lighter than your present one, it will be like your car is carrying (4x16) = 64 kg less weight. 
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fickle on September 24, 2008, 03:27:31 AM

Something to share. Read somewhere in the internet which said that a 1 kg reduction in the weight of the wheel is equivalent to a reduction of 16 kg in weight (per wheel) the car carries. That is to say if you change your wheel to one that is 1 kg lighter than your present one, it will be like your car is carrying (4x16) = 64 kg less weight. 

that's very good economy.  So what do u get before the low fuel light comes on?

i tried reducing the weight for my rims on my previous ride, but the wider tyres seemed to negate the effects of the lighter rim.   
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 24, 2008, 08:39:51 AM
that's very good economy.  So what do u get before the low fuel light comes on?

i tried reducing the weight for my rims on my previous ride, but the wider tyres seemed to negate the effects of the lighter rim.   

This is what many peopole who upgrade their rims & tyres do not take note of.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fickle on September 24, 2008, 10:35:22 AM
this is what i got for 1/2 tank yesterday... :smile:

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Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 24, 2008, 10:54:06 AM
Just changed CVT fluid at 60k servicing. Been using Mobil Gold 0W40 engine oil since 20k. Using Rays Gram Lights 16" rims (6 kg), Ez stab, sparkbridge, Hurricane SS filter, 3M solar film & DIY aircon pipe insulation. No other mods.

Running on Malaysian Mobil 97 petrol. Not a 2000RPMer, just drive the way I like depending on traffic conditions and my mood :devil2:. Hit 3000RPM quite often and even more when I chiong amber light. 60/40 highway-city. Tyre pressure 34 front and 32 rear.

FC 13+ (used to get consistent 12.5 before) but don't know how come now improve.

Something to share. Read somewhere in the internet which said that a 1 kg reduction in the weight of the wheel is equivalent to a reduction of 16 kg in weight (per wheel) the car carries. That is to say if you change your wheel to one that is 1 kg lighter than your present one, it will be like your car is carrying (4x16) = 64 kg less weight. 


Lachio,

What is your tyre size?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LaChio on September 24, 2008, 02:22:02 PM
this is what i got for 1/2 tank yesterday... :smile:

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi35.tinypic.com%2F30nc3tg.jpg&hash=8193e2dc6dff581969078214a1d400294d9f2527)

Hi Fickle,
I never waited until warning light comes on to check the mileage. Otherwise it will cost me a bomb to top up to 3/4 to go into JB. Haven't pump local fuel for long time liao.

One thing I like to check with you. Everytime when topping up the fuel tank and the pump trigger auto ejects, I can still squeeze in another 13 ltrs. The process is painstaking. I can only squeeze in 200-300 ml at a time and wait for the fuel to flow slowly into the tank then repeat the process all over again. It takes me 30 mins to fill the tank completely on each pumping session. Are you experiencing the same thing?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LaChio on September 24, 2008, 02:24:47 PM

Lachio,

What is your tyre size?

205/50R16 Dunlop Direnzza 101
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: gh05tss on September 24, 2008, 02:25:40 PM
Hi Fickle,
I never waited until warning light comes on to check the mileage. Otherwise it will cost me a bomb to top up to 3/4 to go into JB. Haven't pump local fuel for long time liao.

One thing I like to check with you. Everytime when topping up the fuel tank and the pump trigger auto ejects, I can still squeeze in another 13 ltrs. The process is painstaking. I can only squeeze in 200-300 ml at a time and wait for the fuel to flow slowly into the tank then repeat the process all over again. It takes me 30 mins to fill the tank completely on each pumping session. Are you experiencing the same thing?

30mins for a fuel topup * Jawdrop *
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on September 24, 2008, 02:28:14 PM
Hi Fickle,
I never waited until warning light comes on to check the mileage. Otherwise it will cost me a bomb to top up to 3/4 to go into JB. Haven't pump local fuel for long time liao.

One thing I like to check with you. Everytime when topping up the fuel tank and the pump trigger auto ejects, I can still squeeze in another 13 ltrs. The process is painstaking. I can only squeeze in 200-300 ml at a time and wait for the fuel to flow slowly into the tank then repeat the process all over again. It takes me 30 mins to fill the tank completely on each pumping session. Are you experiencing the same thing?

Wow, 13 more litres.  Wonder how many litres of petrol in total are in your tank?  Is it still 45 litres or has it way exceeded the 45-litre tank capacity size?

Sometimes, I pumped till the brink and can see the petrol.  Still it is about 3 litres more only, and definitely does not take more than 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 24, 2008, 03:53:36 PM
30mins for a fuel topup * Jawdrop *

Not worth the trouble as a lot of petrol would have evaporated in the process.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: gh05tss on September 24, 2008, 04:11:47 PM
Not worth the trouble as a lot of petrol would have evaporated in the process.

U telling me that? :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 24, 2008, 04:35:18 PM
Wow, 13 more litres.  Wonder how many litres of petrol in total are in your tank?  Is it still 45 litres or has it way exceeded the 45-litre tank capacity size?

Sometimes, I pumped till the brink and can see the petrol.  Still it is about 3 litres more only, and definitely does not take more than 5 minutes.


If you squeeze to the last drop and pump to the brim, on a hot day, petrol will expand and drip out.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: alangohek on September 24, 2008, 04:42:20 PM
Hi Fickle,
I never waited until warning light comes on to check the mileage. Otherwise it will cost me a bomb to top up to 3/4 to go into JB. Haven't pump local fuel for long time liao.

One thing I like to check with you. Everytime when topping up the fuel tank and the pump trigger auto ejects, I can still squeeze in another 13 ltrs. The process is painstaking. I can only squeeze in 200-300 ml at a time and wait for the fuel to flow slowly into the tank then repeat the process all over again. It takes me 30 mins to fill the tank completely on each pumping session. Are you experiencing the same thing?
That is incredible, man.

Our tank is only 45 litre leh. For me, I can only squeeze in another 3 litres after auto eject.

Just curious, did you mod your fuel tank?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: alangohek on September 24, 2008, 04:45:29 PM

If you squeeze to the last drop and pump to the brim, on a hot day, petrol will expand and drip out.
yes experience that before and some more sawlots of bubbles flowing out from the tank.

Thank God that time I am driving rental car. If not, the overflowed petrol will damage the paint work.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: liewks on September 24, 2008, 07:08:48 PM
this is what i got for 1/2 tank yesterday... :smile:

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi35.tinypic.com%2F30nc3tg.jpg&hash=8193e2dc6dff581969078214a1d400294d9f2527)

That looks excellent. With 350km to a half tank, it looks like you're all set for a 20+km/L tank?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 24, 2008, 08:00:03 PM
Er.... sorry, who said it's impossible to hit 300km at half tank? I am now getting 333.7km and the the needle is still only halfway between 1/2 and 3/4. :yehyeh:
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F23092008012.jpg&hash=33330ce4cf5bb1698abafcac7ee3ef2b2aae28c9)


That is very very amazing.. Will never get so good FC in 4AT. Wonder if you hit 650km when empty
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on September 24, 2008, 09:26:46 PM
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This is the best i can do...  not even 300 at 1/2 tank  :(
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: hwchang on September 24, 2008, 11:30:09 PM
Maybe u forgot to reset ur meter after u pump?? haha.... :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 24, 2008, 11:41:48 PM
i have ever hit 300km at half mark. but tht's like only ONCE. even then when i get 300km at half mark my fuel light comes on near 500km so the reading is not consistent throughout the fuel gauge, maybe cos of the shape of our fuel tank.
anyhow i think alot of those who hit 300km++ half tank are on CVT so it does show the gearbox makes a whacky diff!
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on September 25, 2008, 12:30:28 AM

If you squeeze to the last drop and pump to the brim, on a hot day, petrol will expand and drip out.

Petrol will expand ?  :blink:

Hearsay or SA told you again ?  :glare:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on September 25, 2008, 12:43:51 AM
Petrol will expand ?  :blink:

Hearsay or SA told you again ?  :glare:
i think he is at it again everytime say this kind of smart good dun force smart stuffs (direct translation from hokkien)......if hot day the petrol expand u think ur fuel tank wont expand meh :out:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: haar-b on September 25, 2008, 12:58:47 AM
Dear Bros,
My latio coming to one year already...overall still very happy with it. I believed we all weighted the plus and minus before choosing latio. yes its not a performace car and some minor aspect is not as good.... however overal it serve me well.

1. I love the fuel condumption. its at 14km/l... now i change work place and driving on highway 90% of the time, its amazing that I am having 15km/l! :bleh:

2. The interior space is large enough to bring my whole family.. I love weekend  ::)

3. The boot is big enough for me to put 2 folding bike...these appearently become impt part of my life...

4. recently in my 20k servcing (actually 27k liao)with autosaver, they comment that my rear absorber leaking...  They advice me to bring back to TC. I was damn sian cos I am near broke..very busy .. and tis a new car mah...
anyway TC was quite good. they use computerised testing...found nothing ..then they hoist the car to check...eventually can hte absorber for FREE... under warranty mah... So we are lucky to have bought from a trustworthy dealer...

Hence come to of it..not too bad lah..  ;D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 25, 2008, 12:59:15 AM
but petrol does evaporate like nobody business. try not to pump on hot day.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Zylon on September 25, 2008, 01:18:37 AM
i have ever hit 300km at half mark. but tht's like only ONCE. even then when i get 300km at half mark my fuel light comes on near 500km so the reading is not consistent throughout the fuel gauge, maybe cos of the shape of our fuel tank.
anyhow i think alot of those who hit 300km++ half tank are on CVT so it does show the gearbox makes a whacky diff!
no, my is 4AT, i hit 330 for my half tank :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 25, 2008, 10:09:06 AM
but petrol does evaporate like nobody business. try not to pump on hot day.

Is this hearsay?

Any truth in this?

Some forumers, like 'Jazz' and 'fri13th' just expressed their doubts on this statement.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 25, 2008, 10:28:53 AM
well just look at the pump when u r pumping. if you squeeze to max, you will see alot of "fumes" coming out. that's petrol my friend. although it is not significant (probably a few milliliters at the end of the day), over 100 tanks of refill this may add up to a litre or so.

and for sure petrol expands on a hot day just like any liquid. pumping at wee hours give you more dollar for the buck.

zylon: that's it! i'm gonna bring for a checkup @ autosavers :S
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on September 25, 2008, 08:33:06 PM
Is this hearsay?

Any truth in this?

Some forumers, like 'Jazz' and 'fri13th' just expressed their doubts on this statement.

Hello, when did I doubt about petrol evaporate? Even water do evaporate. You really  :out:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LaChio on September 26, 2008, 04:05:11 AM
Ok guys, my mileage at half tank.

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F25092008024-2.jpg&hash=a96a4161bf60311fac39e90e130c8a1c82d78bc4)

It's true, I can squeeze in another 13 ltrs after pump trigger auto ejects. I ever told the people at TC Ubi service centre about it and asked them to check my fuel tank. But they said best to leave it alone. :( The problem is it takes too damn long to fill to the brim. Maybe Malaysian petrol contains melamine and my fuel tank kena kidney stones? :D It won't overflow because once you start your car and move off, the fuel is already being burnt and consumed. Aiyo, have lah! After filling up, I always reset meter A & B to '0'.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: maxngck on September 26, 2008, 07:24:55 AM
Ok guys, my mileage at half tank.

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F25092008024-2.jpg&hash=a96a4161bf60311fac39e90e130c8a1c82d78bc4)

It's true, I can squeeze in another 13 ltrs after pump trigger auto ejects. I ever told the people at TC Ubi service centre about it and asked them to check my fuel tank. But they said best to leave it alone. :( The problem is it takes too damn long to fill to the brim. Maybe Malaysian petrol contains melamine and my fuel tank kena kidney stones? :D It won't overflow because once you start your car and move off, the fuel is already being burnt and consumed. Aiyo, have lah! After filling up, I always reset meter A & B to '0'.

wah! that is my full tank milage leh. mayb u got the tank of cefiro (wrongly installed) :bleh:. my tank the most can squeeze in another 3-4 litres when the nozzle auto shut off. y urs still can pump so much :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 26, 2008, 10:59:41 AM
Ok guys, my mileage at half tank.

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F25092008024-2.jpg&hash=a96a4161bf60311fac39e90e130c8a1c82d78bc4)

It's true, I can squeeze in another 13 ltrs after pump trigger auto ejects. I ever told the people at TC Ubi service centre about it and asked them to check my fuel tank. But they said best to leave it alone. :( The problem is it takes too damn long to fill to the brim. Maybe Malaysian petrol contains melamine and my fuel tank kena kidney stones? :D It won't overflow because once you start your car and move off, the fuel is already being burnt and consumed. Aiyo, have lah! After filling up, I always reset meter A & B to '0'.

Hmm.....this particular photo looks doggy....likes like photoshop enhanced.....hahaha......:devil2: :devil2: :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 26, 2008, 11:11:07 AM
Ok guys, my mileage at half tank.

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F25092008024-2.jpg&hash=a96a4161bf60311fac39e90e130c8a1c82d78bc4)

It's true, I can squeeze in another 13 ltrs after pump trigger auto ejects. I ever told the people at TC Ubi service centre about it and asked them to check my fuel tank. But they said best to leave it alone. :( The problem is it takes too damn long to fill to the brim. Maybe Malaysian petrol contains melamine and my fuel tank kena kidney stones? :D It won't overflow because once you start your car and move off, the fuel is already being burnt and consumed. Aiyo, have lah! After filling up, I always reset meter A & B to '0'.


AMAZING 19.37km/l based on half tank using up 20 litres.   :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

Can share with us -

1. What brand of petrol and octane used?
2. Engine oil used?
3. Tyre pressure?
4. How many people usually in car when you drive?
5. HIghway/City % driving mileage?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 26, 2008, 11:18:52 AM

AMAZING 19.37km/l based on half tank using up 20 litres.   :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

Can share with us -

1. What brand of petrol and octane used?
2. Engine oil used?
3. Tyre pressure?
4. How many people usually in car when you drive?
5. HIghway/City % driving mileage?

Clarence....it is obvious tat it is digitally enhanced photo lar.....you can do it too...hahaha....:bleh: :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 26, 2008, 11:50:26 AM
wahlau i dont believe it
maybe it's the driver lah!
anybody wanna exchange car for 1 week! i don't believe it! either my car uplorry, or my foot somehow got lead tie to it and i dunno! arghghghghghghhgg!!! my current tank half mark is barely 200+km!
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 26, 2008, 11:50:41 AM
Very soon, forumer 'LaChio' will be accused by other fourmers of "conveying wrong message and mis-leading here."   :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 26, 2008, 01:48:24 PM
Very soon, forumer 'LaChio' will be accused by other fourmers of "conveying wrong message and mis-leading here."   :devil2:

I agreed with detach8....we exchange car for a week...and we shall see if it is the art of driving or the skill of photoshop.....:devil2: :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on September 26, 2008, 04:18:59 PM
whalau! very hard to compare leh how many of u live in west and work in town.. maybe given the same route easier to compare!
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fickle on September 26, 2008, 05:09:21 PM
Hi Fickle,
I never waited until warning light comes on to check the mileage. Otherwise it will cost me a bomb to top up to 3/4 to go into JB. Haven't pump local fuel for long time liao.

One thing I like to check with you. Everytime when topping up the fuel tank and the pump trigger auto ejects, I can still squeeze in another 13 ltrs. The process is painstaking. I can only squeeze in 200-300 ml at a time and wait for the fuel to flow slowly into the tank then repeat the process all over again. It takes me 30 mins to fill the tank completely on each pumping session. Are you experiencing the same thing?

it takes me 5 min at most to fill up my tank...  hmmm.  How many litres do u pump in each time?  Your latio might have the wrong tank installed inside.  Maybe its the 1.8 litre latio tank which i think is 52 litres compared to the 1.5 litre latio 45 litre tank
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on September 26, 2008, 05:17:44 PM

AMAZING 19.37km/l based on half tank using up 20 litres.   :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

Can share with us -

1. What brand of petrol and octane used?
2. Engine oil used?
3. Tyre pressure?
4. How many people usually in car when you drive?
5. HIghway/City % driving mileage?

It is not 19.37 km/l la.  It is total mileage divided by 33 litres (since after supposedly to be full still can pump another 13 litres).  That is below 12 km/litre.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 26, 2008, 05:53:43 PM
You mean Latio petrol tank, between 'full' and '1/2' tank level is 33 litres?

So between '1/2' tank level and 'empty' level is only 13 litres?

Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 26, 2008, 08:28:32 PM
whalau! very hard to compare leh how many of u live in west and work in town.. maybe given the same route easier to compare!

I live in Bt Panjang and my office is at Paya Lebar...how's tat?? :D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 26, 2008, 08:31:27 PM
You mean Latio petrol tank, between 'full' and '1/2' tank level is 33 litres?

So between '1/2' tank level and 'empty' level is only 13 litres?

Can anyone confirm?

I only know the petrol needle does not moves down linearly....my previous altis and my M3 all seems to move from full to 1/2 tank slowly...but from 1/2 tank to lights very quickly.....

But latio seems to be the opposite lei....from full to 1/2 tank quite fast and then from 1/2tanks to lights takes a long time....so at 1/2 tank mark, it does not mean u really 1/2 tank.....i think it is just an estimation only....:yehyeh: :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on September 27, 2008, 12:21:05 AM
If what you said is correct, then one can get only 13km/l when hit 387km at 1/2 tank.

Most hit 300km or less at 1/2 tank, which translates to 9km/l or less.

Looks like Latio fuel economy is pretty bad, similar to 2000cc car.  :crying:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on September 27, 2008, 12:23:57 AM
You mean Latio petrol tank, between 'full' and '1/2' tank level is 33 litres?

So between '1/2' tank level and 'empty' level is only 13 litres?

Can anyone confirm?

Hi Bro, No la.  You got me wrong.  What I meant is that the other bro said that after the auto stop, he can pump another 13 litres into his tank.  Since the auto stop means the tank is almost full and most of us can squeeze in another 3 litres (approx) only and as he can squeeze in another 13 litres, this means that he uses half tank plus 13 litres to travel the mileage as stated in his thread lor.  The latio tank capacity is 45 litres (which includes the reserve 8 litres (approx)), half tank mark to empty level cannot be only 13 litres la.  The top half tank volume is smaller than the bottom half tank volume for latio.  In any case, the fuel gauge not accurate one.  Sometimes at 3/4 mark, mileage travel only 100 km and at half mark travel 230 km.  At other times, 3/4 mark can travel 150 km and half mark at 270 km.  In both cases, I calculated the FC to be about the same.  (-- I used to pump till the brink so that it can last me for one whole week.  Since topping up each pump is from brink to brink, the FC calculation should be correct.)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LaChio on September 27, 2008, 02:45:30 AM
Here's another one to make you all drool.

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F26092008025-1.jpg&hash=4329efecc32d5f30cca6c5f21ae4fd69c5885ec9)

All the pics were shot with my N95 8GB handphone. I used photobucket to post them here leh and not photoshop wor.

I also hope somebody can tell me how come my tank is like that. Went to TC Ubi, they said best to leave it alone. Went to TC TP, one SC told me it's quite ok, his ride can pump in 8 ltrs. But anyway, me been servicing at Autosaver since 20k, not going back to TC anymore. Ok, next time me go pumping in JB, you all meet me there lor. Can take over and help me to squeeze also good. :D Very tiring and embarassing lei. ******** tank like can never be full like that. :mad:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fickle on September 27, 2008, 04:13:31 AM
Here's another one to make you all drool.

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F26092008025-1.jpg&hash=4329efecc32d5f30cca6c5f21ae4fd69c5885ec9)

All the pics were shot with my N95 8GB handphone. I used photobucket to post them here leh and not photoshop wor.

I also hope somebody can tell me how come my tank is like that. Went to TC Ubi, they said best to leave it alone. Went to TC TP, one SC told me it's quite ok, his ride can pump in 8 ltrs. But anyway, me been servicing at Autosaver since 20k, not going back to TC anymore. Ok, next time me go pumping in JB, you all meet me there lor. Can take over and help me to squeeze also good. :D Very tiring and embarassing lei. s***** tank like can never be full like that. :mad:

best way to measure... u divide the mileage u manage to get by how many litres u pump...whether u squeeze in 13 litres or 1 litre doesn't matter. :)  more accurate km/litre
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 27, 2008, 01:47:08 PM
I only know the petrol needle does not moves down linearly....my previous altis and my M3 all seems to move from full to 1/2 tank slowly...but from 1/2 tank to lights very quickly.....

But latio seems to be the opposite lei....from full to 1/2 tank quite fast and then from 1/2tanks to lights takes a long time....so at 1/2 tank mark, it does not mean u really 1/2 tank.....i think it is just an estimation only....:yehyeh: :yehyeh:


Ya agree. Latio fuel tank is in this shape  / \
Whereby most car are in this shape \ /
Therefore our first half used up faster than other but very slow on the second half
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LaChio on September 27, 2008, 04:21:42 PM

Ya agree. Latio fuel tank is in this shape  / \
Whereby most car are in this shape \ /
Therefore our first half used up faster than other but very slow on the second half
By your reasoning (our first half used up faster), I'm already getting 400km. And (very slow on the second half), that means I will be getting more than 400km for the next half lor? :w00t:

Hmm...... or have they installed my tank upside down? :ohmy: :ohmy:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on September 28, 2008, 01:36:19 AM
By your reasoning (our first half used up faster), I'm already getting 400km. And (very slow on the second half), that means I will be getting more than 400km for the next half lor? :w00t:

Hmm...... or have they installed my tank upside down? :ohmy: :ohmy:


To answer your question, what is your FC like in general?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: hwchang on September 28, 2008, 06:50:12 AM
Here's another one to make you all drool.

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F26092008025-1.jpg&hash=4329efecc32d5f30cca6c5f21ae4fd69c5885ec9)

All the pics were shot with my N95 8GB handphone. I used photobucket to post them here leh and not photoshop wor.

I also hope somebody can tell me how come my tank is like that. Went to TC Ubi, they said best to leave it alone. Went to TC TP, one SC told me it's quite ok, his ride can pump in 8 ltrs. But anyway, me been servicing at Autosaver since 20k, not going back to TC anymore. Ok, next time me go pumping in JB, you all meet me there lor. Can take over and help me to squeeze also good. :D Very tiring and embarassing lei. s***** tank like can never be full like that. :mad:
... i dun think so... unless u road hog..
did not reset your meter and left 100km after your last pump iszi?? i can make it 1000km as well and take photo with Nokia phone :yehyeh:
latio is fuel efficent... but not tat efficient...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on September 28, 2008, 08:27:28 AM
By your reasoning (our first half used up faster), I'm already getting 400km. And (very slow on the second half), that means I will be getting more than 400km for the next half lor? :w00t:

Hmm...... or have they installed my tank upside down? :ohmy: :ohmy:


If your first half is 400km, i assume your overall mileage can clock to 700km till empty?correct me iif i'm wrong. . :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on September 28, 2008, 11:20:37 AM
yo.. my last full tanks usually get 13++km/l le
i will clock about 270-290 at 1/2 tank..
when go pump petrol, i will divide the milage by lit of petrol pump in..
is that correct?? if so, why all the latio got diff readings at 1/2 tank?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fickle on September 29, 2008, 02:10:04 AM
yo.. my last full tanks usually get 13++km/l le
i will clock about 270-290 at 1/2 tank..
when go pump petrol, i will divide the milage by lit of petrol pump in..
is that correct?? if so, why all the latio got diff readings at 1/2 tank?

different driving patterns, different traffic loads, etc
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: capcorn on September 29, 2008, 10:33:17 AM
i am getting 14 km/L consistently...70% highway and 30% city...

there are a few times when i off the aircon while i was driving alone on the highway
and I get 15++ km/L



Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 29, 2008, 02:26:26 PM
yo.. my last full tanks usually get 13++km/l le
i will clock about 270-290 at 1/2 tank..
when go pump petrol, i will divide the milage by lit of petrol pump in..
is that correct?? if so, why all the latio got diff readings at 1/2 tank?

I calculate my mileage tat way also....i think this is the best way u can calculate...

For 1/2tank reading...like some of the guys here mentioned, depending on ur driving style and driving conditions....previously, I use to take BKE -> PIE to & fro work...as the traffic at PIE is often heavy, there are many times I have to come to a complete stop and move off again...this consumes more petrol...

Now, I take BKE -> SLE -> TPE-> KPE.....longer distance, but can mantain average speed of 80km/h without braking to a complete stop...and my FC improves...:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on September 29, 2008, 08:34:43 PM
I calculate my mileage tat way also....i think this is the best way u can calculate...

For 1/2tank reading...like some of the guys here mentioned, depending on ur driving style and driving conditions....previously, I use to take BKE -> PIE to & fro work...as the traffic at PIE is often heavy, there are many times I have to come to a complete stop and move off again...this consumes more petrol...

Now, I take BKE -> SLE -> TPE-> KPE.....longer distance, but can mantain average speed of 80km/h without braking to a complete stop...and my FC improves...:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Even if the FC improves, but you have to travel longer journeys.  So the net effect in terms of money paid for fuel can be about the same.  Time wise can also be about the same (depending on how bad the jam and how far more you trave).
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on September 29, 2008, 11:52:12 PM

Even if the FC improves, but you have to travel longer journeys.  So the net effect in terms of money paid for fuel can be about the same.  Time wise can also be about the same (depending on how bad the jam and how far more you trave).

Hi HC,
Longer distance + smooth traffic should be better than shorter distance + jams, depending on how far the distance plus the jams too like what you have mentioned. But I rather take a longer journey to minimise jams plus stress.  :D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on September 29, 2008, 11:56:46 PM
Hi HC,
Longer distance + smooth traffic should be better than shorter distance + jams, depending on how far the distance plus the jams too like what you have mentioned. But I rather take a longer journey to minimise jams plus stress.  :D

Hi Jazz,

I agree with you on the part that it will be less stressful.  I was just trying to highlight that improving FC in the manner as stated has no monetary saving, and also time perhaps.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on September 30, 2008, 12:04:23 AM
Hi Jazz,

I agree with you on the part that it will be less stressful.  I was just trying to highlight that improving FC in the manner as stated has no monetary saving, and also time perhaps.

Hi HC,
Monetary saving and time cause by jams is grey area, depending on the distance and the jams condition.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on September 30, 2008, 09:15:06 AM
Hi HC,
Monetary saving and time cause by jams is grey area, depending on the distance and the jams condition.

Totally agreed....on PIE....when it is jammed and super slow traffic...pple tends to change lane here and there at short distance...and if u r tired and not paying attention.....accident can happen...so i rather take a longer distance and drive relaxingly...besides...i get to save on ERP for  now....
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 01, 2008, 12:18:55 PM
I am getting less than 12km/l.

12km/l is considered economical for 1500cc auto car.

Those who get 14km/l probably travel >80% highway driving and are very light footed.

Me too and mine 4A/T and has been like that since day one when I got the car which was incidentally a couple of months back.... :crying:

I calculated the mileage to litre ratio and it works out to only about 11.5km...my top up indicator lights tends to light up after about 430km of traveling then after I top up about 38 to 39 litres of petrol...really disappointed with this car...even my previous Kia Rio can give me an average of 12.5km/ltr....and mine you it had even achieve 750km to 45L on a 70/30 (Highway/City) route...

have send in for tuning but didn't work too...wonder how many others Latio here faced similar problems :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 01, 2008, 01:18:37 PM
Ok guys, my mileage at half tank.

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F25092008024-2.jpg&hash=a96a4161bf60311fac39e90e130c8a1c82d78bc4)

It's true, I can squeeze in another 13 ltrs after pump trigger auto ejects. I ever told the people at TC Ubi service centre about it and asked them to check my fuel tank.

but what is the amount of litre you pump it???? 45L? or 58L which would simply be impossible... :w00t:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on October 01, 2008, 09:25:15 PM
but what is the amount of litre you pump it???? 45L? or 58L which would simply be impossible... :w00t:


Highly possible is that the needle is faulty causing wrong reading... :D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 01, 2008, 11:50:59 PM
Me too and mine 4A/T and has been like that since day one when I got the car which was incidentally a couple of months back.... :crying:

I calculated the mileage to litre ratio and it works out to only about 11.5km...my top up indicator lights tends to light up after about 430km of traveling then after I top up about 38 to 39 litres of petrol...really disappointed with this car...even my previous Kia Rio can give me an average of 12.5km/ltr....and mine you it had even achieve 750km to 45L on a 70/30 (Highway/City) route...

have send in for tuning but didn't work too...wonder how many others Latio here faced similar problems :confused1:

My Latio's mileage is same as yours. :(

Very disappointing considering that Latio uses  a lightweight aluminium engine and its gross body weight is not too heavy at 1110kg for a 1.5l car.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on October 02, 2008, 12:55:28 AM
Hi guys! thats my milege at half tank.....looks like its on track to hit 16km per litre :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: maxngck on October 02, 2008, 07:16:02 AM
Hi guys! thats my milege at half tank.....looks like its on track to hit 16km per litre :yehyeh:

u guys good lor. this is almost my full tank milage  :crycry:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Latiorarri on October 02, 2008, 07:34:17 AM
Hi guys! thats my milege at half tank.....looks like its on track to hit 16km per litre :yehyeh:

Wah this is really good.  :thumbsup:

Is your car still stock condition?? What petrol and EO you use??

Can share again your milegae before ur next pump??
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: JLHeng on October 02, 2008, 07:52:27 AM
Hi guys! thats my milege at half tank.....looks like its on track to hit 16km per litre :yehyeh:

Hi guys,

Just to share my experience. I just got a used sedan, almost 2yrs old,  a month ago and had gone through 3 tanks so far. Noticed that half tank able to hit 350~380km, but unable to substain on 2nd half tank. So far mileage hit 580km when sign lights up.

Cheers! 
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 02, 2008, 08:48:01 AM
Hi guys! thats my milege at half tank.....looks like its on track to hit 16km per litre :yehyeh:

I think should also state if it is sedan, if u have zheng anything on ur car tat makes it lighter/heavier and typically how many pple in ur car when travelling and wat is the city/highway ratio travelling....

I realised tat if u consistently drive with rpm (either at cruising or move from a complete stop) at 2500 or less, u can hit 14km/l easily...but this requires a lot of patient in driving and u tempted pple to overtake at short distance to cut infront of u....so beware.... ;)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 02, 2008, 09:50:09 AM
Hi guys! thats my milege at half tank.....looks like its on track to hit 16km per litre :yehyeh:

fri13th,

That is very remarkable fuel economy your Latio has.

I think it really puts the Honda Jazz to shame.

Is that mileage of 368.8km just a one-off or do you get it consistently?

Can you share with us your secrets to getting such record breaking fuel economy for Latio?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 02, 2008, 10:36:23 AM
My Latio's mileage is same as yours. :(

Very disappointing considering that Latio uses  a lightweight aluminium engine and its gross body weight is not too heavy at 1110kg for a 1.5l car.
haiz that why some time buy car heng suay one... :nonod:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: eclaire on October 02, 2008, 10:55:26 AM
I think should also state if it is sedan, if u have zheng anything on ur car tat makes it lighter/heavier and typically how many pple in ur car when travelling and wat is the city/highway ratio travelling....

I realised tat if u consistently drive with rpm (either at cruising or move from a complete stop) at 2500 or less, u can hit 14km/l easily...but this requires a lot of patient in driving and u tempted pple to overtake at short distance to cut infront of u....so beware.... ;)

i travel everyday from marine parade to punggol 90% HW, always maintain at rpm 2500 or less, i normally clock 14km/l and even 14.5km/l. last week lagi best, 13 days then pump once.  :yehyeh: but i find latio very slow, tune the ECCG b4, the pick up speed is really lousy.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 02, 2008, 11:18:24 AM
IMO

Latio, so far so good with its CVT, powerful.

But, 一分钱,一分货啦...

Mai hiam boi bai!
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on October 02, 2008, 05:46:10 PM
Wah this is really good.  :thumbsup:

Is your car still stock condition?? What petrol and EO you use??

Can share again your milegae before ur next pump??
i have got ez-stab and spark bridge installed in my car.....esso 5000.....carlube 5-40w.
Will share my milege at my next pump :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on October 02, 2008, 05:52:25 PM
Hi guys,

Just to share my experience. I just got a used sedan, almost 2yrs old,  a month ago and had gone through 3 tanks so far. Noticed that half tank able to hit 350~380km, but unable to substain on 2nd half tank. So far mileage hit 580km when sign lights up.

Cheers! 
i think its becos there is still 7-8litres inside the fuel tank when our tank light up.....at half tank it would have used up about 22.5 litres of petrol so when ur light is on only another 15 litres is used up.....so i think thats why 1st half seems to clock more milege :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on October 02, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
I think should also state if it is sedan, if u have zheng anything on ur car tat makes it lighter/heavier and typically how many pple in ur car when travelling and wat is the city/highway ratio travelling....

I realised tat if u consistently drive with rpm (either at cruising or move from a complete stop) at 2500 or less, u can hit 14km/l easily...but this requires a lot of patient in driving and u tempted pple to overtake at short distance to cut infront of u....so beware.... ;)
For me i have been consistantly getting 15km/l for the last 2 tanks after i change to carlube 5-40w synthetic oil and the last tank my car was left idiling with aircon on for about total of 2 hours with wife and kid inside while i go for errands and on my way back from jb jam on the causeway if not i think can easily get 16km/l......for me i used the hard break in for my engine during the first 1k running in period...during run in is 12km/l getting better with each tank.....dun fight against slopes where possible i go around 90 normally but i can be a bit siao sometimes wack until 5k rpm sometimes enjoy the adrenalin of driving fast fast


1) % highway/city driving? 70/30
2) Brand and RON petrol used? mobil 5000
3) Tyre Pressure? Front 270, Back 250
4) Driving with air con turned on or off? Air con on 100% set temp at 23-24
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night? 50/50
6) Brand of engine oil used? carlube 5-40w
7) Mileage? 8k+
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself? 3-4ppl
9) Any modifications done to your car? ez-stab and spark bridge
10) Do you use any after market additives? never before.

FYI mine is a sedan :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on October 02, 2008, 06:07:00 PM
fri13th,

That is very remarkable fuel economy your Latio has.

I think it really puts the Honda Jazz to shame.

Is that mileage of 368.8km just a one-off or do you get it consistently?

Can you share with us your secrets to getting such record breaking fuel economy for Latio?

For me i have been consistantly getting 15km/l for the last 2 tanks after i change to carlube 5-40w synthetic oil and the last tank my car was left idiling with aircon on for about total of 2 hours with wife and kid inside while i go for errands and on my way back from jb jam on the causeway if not i think can easily get 16km/l......for me i used the hard break in for my engine during the first 1k running in period...during run in is 12km/l getting better with each tank.....dun fight against slopes where possible i go around 90 normally but i can be a bit siao sometimes wack until 5k rpm sometimes enjoy the adrenalin of driving fast fast


1) % highway/city driving? 70/30
2) Brand and RON petrol used? mobil 5000
3) Tyre Pressure? Front 270, Back 250
4) Driving with air con turned on or off? Air con on 100% set temp at 23-24
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night? 50/50
6) Brand of engine oil used? carlube 5-40w
7) Mileage? 8k+
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself? 3-4ppl
9) Any modifications done to your car? ez-stab and spark bridge
10) Do you use any after market additives? never before.


i think we all have to drive smart lor....example like dun fight with gravity when going up slope and floor ur pedal....look further in front to anticipate the traffic lights changes....and also leave home 15 mins earlier everyday so we dun have to rush and ram our engine unnecessary. i think the method of break in during my first 1k milege also help :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 02, 2008, 10:01:54 PM
Me too and mine 4A/T and has been like that since day one when I got the car which was incidentally a couple of months back.... :crying:

I calculated the mileage to litre ratio and it works out to only about 11.5km...my top up indicator lights tends to light up after about 430km of traveling then after I top up about 38 to 39 litres of petrol...really disappointed with this car...even my previous Kia Rio can give me an average of 12.5km/ltr....and mine you it had even achieve 750km to 45L on a 70/30 (Highway/City) route...

have send in for tuning but didn't work too...wonder how many others Latio here faced similar problems :confused1:

Hi....

I got my car 2 mths back.....exactly same with u....I travel 80% HW and really watch my right foot...still 11.5km/l, think back...this car dun really have much power but drink petrol like SUV. I ask the SA did some tuning to ECU too...now RPM goes up faster... another SA suggest I go for a road test to see exact FC.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 03, 2008, 10:11:52 PM
Hi....

I got my car 2 mths back.....exactly same with u....I travel 80% HW and really watch my right foot...still 11.5km/l, think back...this car dun really have much power but drink petrol like SUV. I ask the SA did some tuning to ECU too...now RPM goes up faster... another SA suggest I go for a road test to see exact FC.

Looks like we are in the same boat...I can consider myself light footed always watching to ensure RPM does not go above 2500...mainly travel around 2000 which is about 80km/hr...and the pick up is really the pits.... :crycry:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Ender on October 03, 2008, 10:31:46 PM
Looks like we are in the same boat...I can consider myself light footed always watching to ensure RPM does not go above 2500...mainly travel around 2000 which is about 80km/hr...and the pick up is really the pits.... :crycry:

Want pickup, use the sport mode... Just came back from a malaysia trip using those single lane trunk route, where you have to overtake via the oncoming lane. Once press the'sport' button, my speed can shoot up from 90km/hr to 120km/hr in matter of seconds.. I fibnd the latio is very good in such short burst for overtake...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 03, 2008, 11:05:57 PM
Looks like we are in the same boat...I can consider myself light footed always watching to ensure RPM does not go above 2500...mainly travel around 2000 which is about 80km/hr...and the pick up is really the pits.... :crycry:

bro..guessed urs ex stock also ar...really dun know wats wrong..maybe stay in warehouse too long...I been telling myself many excuses la..is ok one lol. Maybe pump some premium petrol to clean the engine...if not..just accept it la...sigh
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on October 03, 2008, 11:14:31 PM
bro..guessed urs ex stock also ar...really dun know wats wrong..maybe stay in warehouse too long...I been telling myself many excuses la..is ok one lol. Maybe pump some premium petrol to clean the engine...if not..just accept it la...sigh
Whats ur milege now? my FC starts to become fantastic after 7k.....heard many ppl that their Fc also start to improve around that milege
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: JLHeng on October 03, 2008, 11:26:16 PM
Just wonder does ECU reprogramming helps the fc issue???  :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 03, 2008, 11:41:23 PM
Whats ur milege now? my FC starts to become fantastic after 7k.....heard many ppl that their Fc also start to improve around that milege

Si mei ? Not really for my car. Anyway I quite heavy footed nowadays.  :D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 04, 2008, 01:25:52 PM
bro..guessed urs ex stock also ar...really dun know wats wrong..maybe stay in warehouse too long...I been telling myself many excuses la..is ok one lol. Maybe pump some premium petrol to clean the engine...if not..just accept it la...sigh

urs too? mine is actually 2007 stock...geez think better highlight this to TCM..something is wrong somewhere....
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 04, 2008, 01:28:40 PM
Whats ur milege now? my FC starts to become fantastic after 7k.....heard many ppl that their Fc also start to improve around that milege

mine is only about 4000km out...and so far I have monitored only about 11.5km/lt max...well i really hopes that the FC will improve once above 5k if not dun know but "tak boleh tahan" if it continues to be such a "drinker"...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 04, 2008, 01:29:59 PM
Whats ur milege now? my FC starts to become fantastic after 7k.....heard many ppl that their Fc also start to improve around that milege

Abt 2.5K now..cos I got another fren..bought same time..same model as me, maybe my 15kg +/- weight really makes so much diff...he got abt 13-14 even when running in. Hopefully after 5K, things get better..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 04, 2008, 01:32:10 PM
urs too? mine is actually 2007 stock...geez think better highlight this to TCM..something is wrong somewhere....

Bro..u want to do the road test? Dun know they call it wat, I seen a thread here..someone mentioend that he did once..the meter on the SA n ours..dun really tally one.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LaChio on October 05, 2008, 05:10:54 AM
Ok guys, here's the summary of my fuel tank readings......

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F23092008012.jpg&hash=33330ce4cf5bb1698abafcac7ee3ef2b2aae28c9)
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F26092008025-1.jpg&hash=4329efecc32d5f30cca6c5f21ae4fd69c5885ec9)
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2FQuartertank.jpg&hash=ba624cb0714357eda9a0283a976e12b57e91650b)
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2FLighton.jpg&hash=6b8ffe460f11b29c58cb68b79a39dd6a2713476e)

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: pmet on October 05, 2008, 05:46:52 AM
mine is only about 4000km out...and so far I have monitored only about 11.5km/lt max...well i really hopes that the FC will improve once above 5k if not dun know but "tak boleh tahan" if it continues to be such a "drinker"...

I also tot mine was a drinker during 4k++ mileage but after changing engine oil to Amsoil 5w30 at 10k, now it can achieve 14k/l without problem. With that said, TC uses really "thick" mineral oil?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: limck007 on October 05, 2008, 09:16:56 AM
mine is only about 4000km out...and so far I have monitored only about 11.5km/lt max...well i really hopes that the FC will improve once above 5k if not dun know but "tak boleh tahan" if it continues to be such a "drinker"...

for my case, after my 5k servicing>>> my FC is still 11.5km/l....

i also maintain my rev ard 2000 to 2500... My speed sometime go up to 110km/hr when driving on highway but i make sure that my engine rev is ard 2300 to 2500

overall still FC 11.5km/l....

Am i considered heavu foot .????
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on October 05, 2008, 11:09:03 AM
Abt 2.5K now..cos I got another fren..bought same time..same model as me, maybe my 15kg +/- weight really makes so much diff...he got abt 13-14 even when running in. Hopefully after 5K, things get better..

I also managed to clock 14.2 on my last tank..  ;D not sure will it be better after changing to syth oil from TCM..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fickle on October 05, 2008, 01:39:00 PM
Ok guys, here's the summary of my fuel tank readings......

(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F23092008012.jpg&hash=33330ce4cf5bb1698abafcac7ee3ef2b2aae28c9)
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2F26092008025-1.jpg&hash=4329efecc32d5f30cca6c5f21ae4fd69c5885ec9)
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2FQuartertank.jpg&hash=ba624cb0714357eda9a0283a976e12b57e91650b)
(https://www.sgnissan.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi215.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc173%2Fsamlachio%2FLighton.jpg&hash=6b8ffe460f11b29c58cb68b79a39dd6a2713476e)



How many litres did u pump in after that?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 05, 2008, 04:26:37 PM
fickle,

That is awesome mileage that puts Toyota Vios and Honda Jazz owners to great shame.  :thumbsup:

Can you share with us -

1. What brand engine oil you use?
2. Synthetic or mineral?
3. 10W40?
4. Tyre pressure?
5. Petrol brand and octane?
6. % highway/city driving?
7. No. of people usually in your car?
8. Do you usually drive without your air con?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fickle on October 05, 2008, 05:22:11 PM
fickle,

That is awesome mileage that puts Toyota Vios and Honda Jazz owners to great shame.  :thumbsup:


those pictures belong to lachio leh... haha.  I curious about the amount of fuel he pumps in each time to get those figures. 
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 05, 2008, 06:18:43 PM
Bro..u want to do the road test? Dun know they call it wat, I seen a thread here..someone mentioend that he did once..the meter on the SA n ours..dun really tally one.

Road test? How is it done?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on October 05, 2008, 07:25:28 PM
How many litres did u pump in after that?

I think if assume he still left 2-3L in his tanks and he pump ard 42L, his comsumption would be 15.1km/L. If he pump ard 40L for full tank, it would be 15.8km/L... all and all, it amazing as my 4AT would never reach that good, not even near.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: CustomGolf on October 05, 2008, 09:20:30 PM
I think if assume he still left 2-3L in his tanks and he pump ard 42L, his comsumption would be 15.1km/L. If he pump ard 40L for full tank, it would be 15.8km/L... all and all, it amazing as my 4AT would never reach that good, not even near.

Well, I always pump when the tank is left with about 1/4 on the meter, Mostly it tend to work out to be on the upper band of 12+km per litre and I won't exactly consider myself light footed, trips are not too long, Pasir to Paya Lebar then to Katong for breakfast and will end up at Marina Sq and night is always Marina Sq to Pasir Ris 95% of the time.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 05, 2008, 11:12:01 PM
I also managed to clock 14.2 on my last tank..  ;D not sure will it be better after changing to syth oil from TCM..

Bro...think really dun know y...we shd have the same batch of car...same colour somemore..keke, but mine really can't make it... if urs can hit 14.2 now...wonder wat will it be in 10K.. :w00t:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 05, 2008, 11:14:10 PM
Road test? How is it done?

The SA told me, they will pump a full tank petrol, then u accompany them drive ard HW n city mixture etc and they will connect up a meter to record milleage n FC to see if anything is wrong.

my next trip to TCM, I will ask them for it...keep u updated
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 05, 2008, 11:52:57 PM
for my case, after my 5k servicing>>> my FC is still 11.5km/l....

i also maintain my rev ard 2000 to 2500... My speed sometime go up to 110km/hr when driving on highway but i make sure that my engine rev is ard 2300 to 2500

overall still FC 11.5km/l....

Am i considered heavu foot .????

I rev till 3000rpm. Not much on expressway, able to achieved 12km/l.  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on October 06, 2008, 08:02:39 AM
Bro...think really dun know y...we shd have the same batch of car...same colour somemore..keke, but mine really can't make it... if urs can hit 14.2 now...wonder wat will it be in 10K.. :w00t:

I just do 1 simple thing.. rev no more than 2k rpm..  :smile: keke
whats your car now?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 06, 2008, 11:18:15 AM
I just do 1 simple thing.. rev no more than 2k rpm..  :smile: keke
whats your car now?

Mine abt 2-2.5k rpm n milleage abt 2.5K now. Actually many problems also la, underneath the driver seats, the metal bars rusty, then car door edge, the plastic part came out, I see liao faint. Next time dun buy ex stock car liao :weep:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 06, 2008, 01:06:41 PM
Send your Latio to Tan Chong to rectify for free since it is under warranty.

After sitting idle in the warehouse fo 1 year, such problems are common.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 06, 2008, 01:13:24 PM
I rev till 3000rpm. Not much on expressway, able to achieved 12km/l.  :smile:

Hi Jazz,

Oh, rev to 3000rpm?

My FC improves after chg my tyres to GR80 from (stock Toyo).

Haha. Not sure chun or not.

My rpm hit 4000rpm on msia's NSHW if i drive above 140km/h.

Normal speed will maintain 2000rpm at 100km/h.


Regards.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 06, 2008, 01:14:12 PM
I just do 1 simple thing.. rev no more than 2k rpm..  :smile: keke
whats your car now?

Hi bao2

If no more rev to above 2000rpm, it is so boring leh. The car cannot run fast one :(

Regards.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 06, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Hi Jazz,

Oh, rev to 3000rpm?

My FC improves after chg my tyres to GR80 from (stock Toyo).

Haha. Not sure chun or not.

My rpm hit 4000rpm on msia's NSHW if i drive above 140km/h.

Normal speed will maintain 2000rpm at 100km/h.


Regards.

Alamak, dun tempt me to change tyre leh. Ya nowadays pick up usually unintentionally rev to 3000rpm, coz at 2000rpm seem like not moving.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 06, 2008, 05:44:14 PM
Alamak, dun tempt me to change tyre leh. Ya nowadays pick up usually unintentionally rev to 3000rpm, coz at 2000rpm seem like not moving.

Hi Jazz,

Just do it lah.
Change tyres loh :)

Ya, 2000rpm cannot move lah :)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on October 06, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
Hi bao2

If no more rev to above 2000rpm, it is so boring leh. The car cannot run fast one :(

Regards.

haha.. if you want good FC, then do this loh..   ;D
so far, my ex-stock got leaking roof..  my door handle plastic also pop out but just push it in loh.  ;D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 06, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
Mine abt 2-2.5k rpm n milleage abt 2.5K now. Actually many problems also la, underneath the driver seats, the metal bars rusty, then car door edge, the plastic part came out, I see liao faint. Next time dun buy ex stock car liao :weep:
:scared: dun scare me leh wah lau now i better take a peep under the seats and the carriage... :crying:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 06, 2008, 09:38:01 PM
haha.. if you want good FC, then do this loh..   ;D
so far, my ex-stock got leaking roof..  my door handle plastic also pop out but just push it in loh.  ;D

Hey bro...ur door plastic also pop out..Mine too... :scared: Wonderful liao....I tot I only one....TCM got to explain to me y like tat. The SA now see me also scared
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 06, 2008, 10:05:06 PM
:scared: dun scare me leh wah lau now i better take a peep under the seats and the carriage... :crying:

Any photo to shows us?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 06, 2008, 11:09:51 PM

I try taking with my lousy cam phone..see can anot..cos so dark underneath seat, with cabin light also dun know can
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on October 07, 2008, 12:33:35 AM
:scared: dun scare me leh wah lau now i better take a peep under the seats and the carriage... :crying:

mine oso got many rusty parts - below dashboard, glovebox, steering wheel  :mad: recently juz discover behind intrument meter oso all rusty!  :nonod:

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Louisdelove on October 07, 2008, 01:04:39 AM
hi, currently after changing engine oil from autoB**s, my FC is like 480 before reserve start to blink..
dunno wad happening to my car....

HELP
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 07, 2008, 07:38:04 AM
mine oso got many rusty parts - below dashboard, glovebox, steering wheel  :mad: recently juz discover behind intrument meter oso all rusty!  :nonod:



Wah, very serious leh, how did you take out the dashboard? Did u complain to TCM?

I just discovered this morning that there is this stirring sound around dashboard, like something not tighten. Less than a month old YOM2007  :mad: :mad: :mad:
Anyone?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 07, 2008, 08:30:47 AM
hi, currently after changing engine oil from autoB**s, my FC is like 480 before reserve start to blink..
dunno wad happening to my car....

HELP

May we know what grade is the oil ?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 07, 2008, 08:49:35 AM
Mine abt 2-2.5k rpm n milleage abt 2.5K now. Actually many problems also la, underneath the driver seats, the metal bars rusty, then car door edge, the plastic part came out, I see liao faint. Next time dun buy ex stock car liao :weep:

You got ur car in Aug08? I got mine in July08...dun have the same problem...but i think later when i go out for lunch..i better check again....scary sia....do many pple here in the forum have similar problem? :zipped: :zipped:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 07, 2008, 08:52:31 AM
mine oso got many rusty parts - below dashboard, glovebox, steering wheel  :mad: recently juz discover behind intrument meter oso all rusty!  :nonod:

How u check those area? U tiak until sua sua is it? damn sian...like tat i dun know if i should start ripping things apart from my car to check rusty parts....
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 07, 2008, 09:10:16 AM
Hey bro...ur door plastic also pop out..Mine too... :scared: Wonderful liao....I tot I only one....TCM got to explain to me y like tat. The SA now see me also scared

Door plastic refers to which part of the door? Why should ur SA see u also scared....not tat u r unreasonable....car got make problem wat...not ur fault....
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 07, 2008, 09:18:31 AM
How u check those area? U tiak until sua sua is it? damn sian...like tat i dun know if i should start ripping things apart from my car to check rusty parts....

ya, show us how u check those area. Seems more and more problem for YOM2007 that we just collected this year. sian  ;) :crying: :mad: :scared: :weep:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 07, 2008, 09:21:09 AM
You bet!!!

Normal to expect some rusty parts here and tehre as YOM2007 Latio stocks have been sitting in the warehouse for 1 year before it was "cleaned up" and delivered to you.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on October 07, 2008, 09:26:56 AM
Wah, very serious leh, how did you take out the dashboard? Did u complain to TCM?

I just discovered this morning that there is this stirring sound around dashboard, like something not tighten. Less than a month old YOM2007  :mad: :mad: :mad:
Anyone?
Hi, Do you hear the sound only when you turn the steering?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 07, 2008, 11:02:28 AM
Hi, Do you hear the sound only when you turn the steering?

When cruising on expressway, around 60/70 KM/H. Normal road and slow speed is okay.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on October 07, 2008, 12:43:27 PM
Wah, very serious leh, how did you take out the dashboard? Did u complain to TCM?

I just discovered this morning that there is this stirring sound around dashboard, like something not tighten. Less than a month old YOM2007  :mad: :mad: :mad:
Anyone?

i took out the instrument meter to install HUD then i realised the metal structure all rusty. previously oredi discovered rusty parts below glovebox and areas below driver's side.  basically my whole front metal frame all rusty  :mad: TCM only touched up the rusty parts below the glovebox when i complained to them during 1k service. they 4got to do the area below driver's side. I didn't go bak and complain anymore as the GM gave me a warranty of 10years for any interior rusty parts. me oso lazy to go back to them for the parts behind the meter when i discovered recently :D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Ying on October 07, 2008, 12:44:20 PM
Hi Jazz,

Oh, rev to 3000rpm?

My FC improves after chg my tyres to GR80 from (stock Toyo).

Haha. Not sure chun or not.

My rpm hit 4000rpm on msia's NSHW if i drive above 140km/h.

Normal speed will maintain 2000rpm at 100km/h.


Regards.

typo? should be 3000rpm at 140km/h right unless you load really heavy stuff in your car.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on October 07, 2008, 12:52:12 PM
How u check those area? U tiak until sua sua is it? damn sian...like tat i dun know if i should start ripping things apart from my car to check rusty parts....

dun nid to strip the entire dashboard. u can just check the area around the glovebox 1st. there are about 6-7 screws securing the glovebox. juz unsrew them and pull out the glovebox. u will be able to see the metal frame. do be careful not to pull the glovebox too hard as there is a light bulb attached to it.

paisey i didn't take the step-by-step pics of stripping the dashboard. but there is a thread on installing aircon cabin filter. there are pics on how to reomve the glovebox  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Latiorarri on October 07, 2008, 02:03:23 PM
mine oso got many rusty parts - below dashboard, glovebox, steering wheel  :mad: recently juz discover behind intrument meter oso all rusty!  :nonod:



Sorry ah.. off topic abit.. since the meter cluster can take out hor.. can we upgrade to the new meter cluster in the F/L latio..??? i see the fuel consumption meter on the F/L one i gian leh... comments from the gurus??
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 07, 2008, 03:37:10 PM
Damn it, last night, 1/4 tank pumped to full tank, FC is 10km/L !!! Darn
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 07, 2008, 03:39:05 PM
Damn it, last night, 1/4 tank pumped to full tank, FC is 10km/L !!! Darn

You ramp the accelerator is it? Ai ya....just enjoy ur ride and dun worry so much...:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: saycheese on October 07, 2008, 03:58:24 PM
Damn it, last night, 1/4 tank pumped to full tank, FC is 10km/L !!! Darn


I think FC  is a very complicating issue.  The fundamentals of FC in a car depends on alot of factors.  We might all b driving 'Latios', but every 'Latio' itself is dfferent.  Morever, in car-congested place like Singapore, its very difficult to achieve the ideal FC desired.  One might clock avg 14/LFC this week, but the nxt week could be down to 10/L .

Just my 1.99 cents opinion.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 07, 2008, 04:11:51 PM

I think FC  is a very complicating issue.  The fundamentals of FC in a car depends on alot of factors.  We might all b driving 'Latios', but every 'Latio' itself is dfferent.  Morever, in car-congested place like Singapore, its very difficult to achieve the ideal FC desired.  One might clock avg 14/LFC this week, but the nxt week could be down to 10/L .

Just my 1.99 cents opinion.

Hi saycheese

iagree with you.
your 1.99cents is good & valueable. It is like worth 199 dollars.

Thanks.
-iagree
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on October 07, 2008, 04:46:06 PM
I live in Bt Panjang and my office is at Paya Lebar...how's tat?? :D

i used to go from bt batok to aljunied. I get better FC on PIE compared to now AYE (bukit batok to tj pagar)
 :nonod:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on October 07, 2008, 05:11:21 PM
Sorry ah.. off topic abit.. since the meter cluster can take out hor.. can we upgrade to the new meter cluster in the F/L latio..??? i see the fuel consumption meter on the F/L one i gian leh... comments from the gurus??

u can't DIY in changing the meter coz inside the meter, there is a microchip tat processes & controls certain functions like odometer, activation of ABS etc. u can physically swap the meter yourself, but without programming it to match your car, the meter will not function. You will have problem starting your car also.  if u really muz change the meter, only TCM can do it for u.

anyway FC meter not a must-have lah. use manual calculation lor  :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on October 07, 2008, 08:13:21 PM
You got ur car in Aug08? I got mine in July08...dun have the same problem...but i think later when i go out for lunch..i better check again....scary sia....do many pple here in the forum have similar problem? :zipped: :zipped:

I also got alot of problem that's i started this thread.I feel the material use in Latio are all inferior material compare to others of the same category.Our dashboard are built with many pieces of plastic in dashboard that's y we always got lots of rattling noise unlike Honda, 1 piece dashboard.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 07, 2008, 10:17:31 PM
When cruising on expressway, around 60/70 KM/H. Normal road and slow speed is okay.

I just learned that the stirring sound came out when cruising low speed with low RPM, just like using 5th gear with 30km/h in manual car; and sometime at normal main road as well. New car with this problem, sian  :mad:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on October 07, 2008, 10:56:26 PM
I also got alot of problem that's i started this thread.I feel the material use in Latio are all inferior material compare to others of the same category.Our dashboard are built with many pieces of plastic in dashboard that's y we always got lots of rattling noise unlike Honda, 1 piece dashboard.

errhh bro, latio dashboard oso 1 big piece + 1 center piece ley  ::)

i feel tat the plastic used for latio cabin are quite ok. in fact i quite like the door handle armrest portion. quite comfortable to rest my arm there while driving  ;D

anyway rattling sound is small issue. if u can't solve it yourself, can always ask TCM to do. it juz a matter of pasting some cushion tapes and a few minutes job.

Hope your prob would be solved soon!  :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on October 07, 2008, 10:57:23 PM
I just learned that the stirring sound came out when cruising low speed with low RPM, just like using 5th gear with 30km/h in manual car; and sometime at normal main road as well. New car with this problem, sian  :mad:

is it like the engine vibrating lightly?  :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 08, 2008, 12:02:43 AM
Door plastic refers to which part of the door? Why should ur SA see u also scared....not tat u r unreasonable....car got make problem wat...not ur fault....

mine is the door edge, ard the window..the clip gone liao..so pop out, then also got perm white rain stain....I think SA see me paiseh n I see him sian... :nonod:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on October 08, 2008, 07:38:23 AM
mine is the door handle plastic.. it pop out but i pressed it down.. so far so good.  :D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 08, 2008, 08:42:26 AM
is it like the engine vibrating lightly?  :confused1:

U knows for example, u used 5th gear at 30km/h and trying to pick up the speed to 70km/h. I think is the engine vibrating that caused the sound. But I didn't notice anything if go thru uneven road or road hump. Thought 'Made in Japan' is one of the selling points of Latio as it should have better workmanship quality.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on October 08, 2008, 12:59:54 PM
U knows for example, u used 5th gear at 30km/h and trying to pick up the speed to 70km/h. I think is the engine vibrating that caused the sound. But I didn't notice anything if go thru uneven road or road hump. Thought 'Made in Japan' is one of the selling points of Latio as it should have better workmanship quality.

oic. mine sometimes oso have this slight vibration when moving off. its like driving manual car with the clutch release too much during move off. and oso from 0-10km/h, mine will have a "tock" sound juz like gear-change not smooth in AT cars. find it strange coz mine is cvt, no gear change mah  :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on October 08, 2008, 07:29:56 PM
errhh bro, latio dashboard oso 1 big piece + 1 center piece ley  ::)

i feel tat the plastic used for latio cabin are quite ok. in fact i quite like the door handle armrest portion. quite comfortable to rest my arm there while driving  ;D

anyway rattling sound is small issue. if u can't solve it yourself, can always ask TCM to do. it juz a matter of pasting some cushion tapes and a few minutes job.

Hope your prob would be solved soon!  :yehyeh:

To correct u, i have consulted the SA and was told there are many parts on our dashboard that can be dismantle individually.driver side got 2-3 pieces if i'm not wrong and center portion also 3-4 pieces
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 08, 2008, 08:15:48 PM
Hey bro...ur door plastic also pop out..Mine too... :scared: Wonderful liao....I tot I only one....TCM got to explain to me y like tat. The SA now see me also scared

wah piang i thought becos i gu lak pull too hard that make the door plastic pop out...seems like many also face this problem... :mad:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iwilly on October 08, 2008, 08:34:28 PM
maybe our cars plastic are order from legos then assemble it.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on October 08, 2008, 11:09:48 PM
To correct u, i have consulted the SA and was told there are many parts on our dashboard that can be dismantle individually.driver side got 2-3 pieces if i'm not wrong and center portion also 3-4 pieces

oh i was referring to only the top of the dashboard, exlcuding the 2 pieces below the A-pillar. so far i dismantled only the top portion, 1 big piece from driver to passenger with the SRS airbag cover, 1 center piece with the aircon vent and 2 pieces below the left and right A-pillar. if your SA is referring to the whole dashboard including instrument panel, aircon control, headunit portion etc, of course there are more than 2 pieces  ;D

anyway my apologies if i caused any confusion  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 09, 2008, 11:35:22 AM
oic. mine sometimes oso have this slight vibration when moving off. its like driving manual car with the clutch release too much during move off. and oso from 0-10km/h, mine will have a "tock" sound juz like gear-change not smooth in AT cars. find it strange coz mine is cvt, no gear change mah  :confused1:

law, I also have that "tock" sound every time when I moved off from my MSCP at 0-10km/h. Is just like gear-change not smooth in AT cars as described by u.

Is not so much of the vibration sound but the engine vibration triggered un-tighten parts around dashboard to have sounds. I know we can always go back to TCM, but just feel not very happy to have a brand new car with this problem in less than a month. After all, why we spent so much $$$ to get a brand new car?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on October 09, 2008, 11:51:18 AM
law, I also have that "tock" sound every time when I moved off from my MSCP at 0-10km/h. Is just like gear-change not smooth in AT cars as described by u.

Is not so much of the vibration sound but the engine vibration triggered un-tighten parts around dashboard to have sounds. I know we can always go back to TCM, but just feel not very happy to have a brand new car with this problem in less than a month. After all, why we spent so much $$$ to get a brand new car?

oh so did TCM rectify the "tock" sound problem for u? watz their explanation?

i understand your frustrations. as wat some bros here mentioned, buying a car is a heng suay thing.  u may juz happened to get 1 with slightly more problems  :devil2: my fc oso very lousy, around 10.5-11l/km nia, rpm below 2500  :( as for issues like rattling sound and loosen parts, i will solve them  myself. too lazy to go bak TCM  :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jo_Lee on October 09, 2008, 12:09:27 PM
mine also has got that "tock" sound every morning and evening I move my car after warming
up engine..the sound is quite soft but still can hear it while in the car...it always happen
after engine warmed up and moving in slow speed...but never hear the sound when car
moving in slow speed after traffic light..i guess by that time the engine is hot enuff so thats
why no more "tock" sound.


 
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Latiorarri on October 09, 2008, 01:32:17 PM
the 'tock' sound mentioned is it because of the switch to engaged the air con compressor?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 09, 2008, 01:53:38 PM
oh so did TCM rectify the "tock" sound problem for u? watz their explanation?

i understand your frustrations. as wat some bros here mentioned, buying a car is a heng suay thing.  u may juz happened to get 1 with slightly more problems  :devil2: my fc oso very lousy, around 10.5-11l/km nia, rpm below 2500  :( as for issues like rattling sound and loosen parts, i will solve them  myself. too lazy to go bak TCM  :devil2:


Will be going for my 1K servicing soon, will ask them for a thorough check on all my problems. 1K servicing usually is about 3 hours on weekday?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 09, 2008, 01:59:09 PM
the 'tock' sound mentioned is it because of the switch to engaged the air con compressor?

At first I thought is the aircon, so I turned off the aircon and experiment it, but I still heard that 'tock' sound.

Jo_Lee, my case is similar to urs, did u check with TCM?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Silver on October 09, 2008, 02:03:18 PM
i had sent it in at 8:00 am
car was ready at 10:20 am

if you have other problems to settle, then it will obviously take longer than that
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jo_Lee on October 09, 2008, 02:04:42 PM
the 'tock' sound mentioned is it because of the switch to engaged the air con compressor?

no..its not due to air con compressor cos i dun on the air con in the morning...

arias48..no i didnt check with TCM cos i thought its normal as i hear the sound every day for
the past 10 mths  ;D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 09, 2008, 07:22:34 PM
the 'tock' sound mentioned is it because of the switch to engaged the air con compressor?

i think what they mean is the engaging of the gear when moving...as for the aircon, I find it is very loud when I first switch it on...just like the sound of steam rushing out thru a pipe..or rather to be more precise like pouring water on a hot metal...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on October 09, 2008, 10:53:10 PM
mine also has got that "tock" sound every morning and evening I move my car after warming
up engine..the sound is quite soft but still can hear it while in the car...it always happen
after engine warmed up and moving in slow speed...but never hear the sound when car
moving in slow speed after traffic light..i guess by that time the engine is hot enuff so thats
why no more "tock" sound.


 



R u referring to when u start engine in the morning and when moving of slowly, u will hear continuous tok tok tok tok tok sound? It might be the ta pad(dunno how to spell) sound.Cos i also have , when drive for 1-2 mins ok liao. Check with SA , same answer la "IT's normal la"
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Zylon on October 10, 2008, 02:15:30 AM
At first I thought is the aircon, so I turned off the aircon and experiment it, but I still heard that 'tock' sound.

Jo_Lee, my case is similar to urs, did u check with TCM?

i have that sound oso, i've check with TCM, they say is the ABS brake, when u park the car for too long (10 hours or more) then u start the car, it got the sound "tok" is bcoz the ABS brake is working,
if u dont hear the sound, that mean some problem with ur brake, that is what i'm told.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 10, 2008, 09:11:53 AM
the 'tock' sound mentioned is it because of the switch to engaged the air con compressor?

The 'tock' sound u guys toking abt is when u release the brake when moving off from stationary? Mine dun have this problem...my car engine relatively quite.....dun seems to be as problematic as some of u describe here....either tat or my tolerance/bo chap-ness is very high....:bleh: :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 10, 2008, 09:15:57 AM
i think what they mean is the engaging of the gear when moving...as for the aircon, I find it is very loud when I first switch it on...just like the sound of steam rushing out thru a pipe..or rather to be more precise like pouring water on a hot metal...

Did u set ur air-con to Auto? Our latio Auto air-con mode not so smart....if u leave the temp set at 25 and below, when u first start ur car in the morning...the temp inside the car is definitely higher than 25 and the Auto mode will blow the air-con at max fan speed to cool the car to the temp tat u set....
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 10, 2008, 11:18:26 AM
i have that sound oso, i've check with TCM, they say is the ABS brake, when u park the car for too long (10 hours or more) then u start the car, it got the sound "tok" is bcoz the ABS brake is working,
if u dont hear the sound, that mean some problem with ur brake, that is what i'm told.

1st time I heard of such an analogy.  :ohmy:

Bunch of great story tellers at Tan Chong Motors.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jo_Lee on October 10, 2008, 11:56:42 AM

R u referring to when u start engine in the morning and when moving of slowly, u will hear continuous tok tok tok tok tok sound? It might be the ta pad(dunno how to spell) sound.Cos i also have , when drive for 1-2 mins ok liao. Check with SA , same answer la "IT's normal la"

no..not continous tok tok tok...juz 1 very soft "tok"..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 10, 2008, 12:09:13 PM
no..not continous tok tok tok...juz 1 very soft "tok"..

Yap, is just 1 'tok' sound when my car moved from stationary to 10/20 km/h within MSCP, the 'tok' sound came out when the gear changed.

And I think is quite hard to simulate the problem to TCM cox this sound only come out when the engine is cold, unless we park our car overnite there or spend ur whole day there at TCM.  :bleh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on October 10, 2008, 10:15:48 PM
no..not continous tok tok tok...juz 1 very soft "tok"..

Yup i get what u mean. I think all latio have this sound. But it's only sound once when you start engine and move off to a certain speed like 10-15km/h.Not only in the morning rite,it's everytime you start your engine and move off. It quite normal la. Thinks it's a signal for the engine to start really moving off.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: liewks on October 11, 2008, 05:05:24 PM
Just a single gentle "tok" right? Could it be just the coolant pump engaging? Just a quack theory... Modern engines try to warm up as fast as possible to reach efficient operating temperatures and for the catalytic converters to reach operating temperatures. I am guessing that's partly why the initial fuel mixture is so rich.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 11, 2008, 08:22:58 PM
Hi

'Tok' sound is normal.
Rattling sound near the dashboard is normal also. Nothing to complaint abt, already used to it although feels sickkkk of it.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 11, 2008, 10:07:01 PM
Hi

'Tok' sound is normal.
Rattling sound near the dashboard is normal also. Nothing to complaint abt, already used to it although feels sickkkk of it.


Hi iagree,

Me too, my boot "thud" sound is here. Wait for the next service then "complain", tired too.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 12, 2008, 12:39:47 AM
Hi iagree,

Me too, my boot "thud" sound is here. Wait for the next service then "complain", tired too.

Hi Jazz

the boot? during my 1000km free service, i complained to tcm at bkt timah, they said is normal. wa ko!

now is 30000km my mileage? relax lah ....
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 12, 2008, 02:39:26 AM
Tan Chong also told me it's normal.  :out:

Unacceptable excuse.  :nonod:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 12, 2008, 12:17:20 PM
Hi iagree,

Me too, my boot "thud" sound is here. Wait for the next service then "complain", tired too.

What is that boot sound? Kind to explain further?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 12, 2008, 03:58:32 PM
What is that boot sound? Kind to explain further?

hi arias

it's near the part where u "press" to open your boot.
after u open the boot, u just pay attention to that 'part', u can try to press to listen to the noise....
u will get me.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on October 12, 2008, 07:19:55 PM
hi arias

it's near the part where u "press" to open your boot.
after u open the boot, u just pay attention to that 'part', u can try to press to listen to the noise....
u will get me.

What i feel is that as long as your boot can open properly and not affecting your driving and comfort, should be not a big  issue.  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on October 12, 2008, 10:12:49 PM
hi arias

it's near the part where u "press" to open your boot.
after u open the boot, u just pay attention to that 'part', u can try to press to listen to the noise....
u will get me.

I got that sound sometimes when i opened the boot.. someone mentioned just use WD40..but i dunno where to spray..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 12, 2008, 10:42:57 PM
What is that boot sound? Kind to explain further?

Eh ... you will notice it in the near future, no worry. Quite hard to explain sound.  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on October 12, 2008, 11:56:41 PM
Hi guys and gals! as promise attached is the latest milege for my full fuel tank.....pump in 37.5litres after light is up = 16.96km/litre! Its really still getting better with each tank  :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 12, 2008, 11:59:59 PM
 :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

What brand petrol do you pump and how many octane?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on October 13, 2008, 12:05:38 AM
esso 95octane with citibank dividend card for maximum discount :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 13, 2008, 12:08:35 AM
Good mileage got anything to do with petrol and RON ?  :out:

It more towards your weight of the car plus best your right foot.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 13, 2008, 12:17:27 AM
Some have claimed that SPC 95RON gives worst mileage and Shell 95RON gives best mileage, although Shell V Power does give poor mileage.

Some forumers here have also claimed that 92RON gives poor mileage as they needed to step more on the acelerator to move the car.

Good mileage is also dependent upon proper tuning, regular oil change and tyre pressure. A light car with a light footed driver will also drink if it's running on underinflated tyres, tuned to the high end for sporty driving and not serviced accordingly to schedule.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on October 13, 2008, 01:20:19 AM
Some have claimed that SPC 95RON gives worst mileage and Shell 95RON gives best mileage, although Shell V Power does give poor mileage.

Some forumers here have also claimed that 92RON gives poor mileage as they needed to step more on the acelerator to move the car.

Good mileage is also dependent upon proper tuning, regular oil change and tyre pressure. A light car with a light footed driver will also drink if it's running on underinflated tyres, tuned to the high end for sporty driving and not serviced accordingly to schedule.

Hi all, like to find out what is the best FC for ~3yrs old latio out there (mine is premium) as mine best FC is ard 15km/ with 90% hw and 10 town area (when i'm in Malaysia) and usually pump SPC98 (as got total disc of 11%, now the price after disc sb ~$1.7++/l) and Shell V power in Malaysia. As in Singapore, with 60% HW and 40 Housing area, the best FC is ~12km/l (has never hit 12km/l b4, almost there)..

**p/s: noticed quite a no of lations can hit 14km/l and above but not really see many can hit the same with latio aged ~3yrs+ (correct me if i'm wrong..)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 13, 2008, 08:02:54 AM
Some have claimed that SPC 95RON gives worst mileage and Shell 95RON gives best mileage, although Shell V Power does give poor mileage.

Some forumers here have also claimed that 92RON gives poor mileage as they needed to step more on the acelerator to move the car.

Good mileage is also dependent upon proper tuning, regular oil change and tyre pressure. A light car with a light footed driver will also drink if it's running on underinflated tyres, tuned to the high end for sporty driving and not serviced accordingly to schedule.

Hearsay again or you have tried and tested yourself ?

On top of what I have mentioned above beside weight and control right foot, plan your route well, and besides this different people have different driving habits.

Why some claimed that 92 has no power, in fact is the same, it just a mindset that 92 is cheaper therfore 1 tend to step more for power, it doesn't contribute to FC for RON ratings. Example, do you feel more energetic drinking Starbuck coffee to kopitiam coffee ?

If a person care for his car FC, beside good maintenance, of coz he will take note of his tyre pressure since this is the most affortable and basic knowlegde.

So pls understand and learn more before reply with craps of groundless replys.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: limck007 on October 13, 2008, 08:27:59 AM
Hi guys and gals! as promise attached is the latest milege for my full fuel tank.....pump in 37.5litres after light is up = 16.96km/litre! Its really still getting better with each tank  :yehyeh:

kaoz... i still using mineral oil (6000km liao).. but i only get 440km -460km per tank niah !!!

never hit 500km during these 5 mths!!!


kaoz.. i dont chiong alot leh..  maybe is my car??
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 13, 2008, 08:42:53 AM
Hi guys and gals! as promise attached is the latest milege for my full fuel tank.....pump in 37.5litres after light is up = 16.96km/litre! Its really still getting better with each tank  :yehyeh:

Maybe the indicator spoil liao......:devil2: :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: dsrio on October 13, 2008, 08:47:45 AM
I thought getting 530km then topping up 37-38l for my case already very good, but to get more than 600km, wow  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on October 13, 2008, 11:59:21 AM
kaoz... i still using mineral oil (6000km liao).. but i only get 440km -460km per tank niah !!!

never hit 500km during these 5 mths!!!


kaoz.. i dont chiong alot leh..  maybe is my car??

same as you bro. hang in there.

my last 3 tank FC is about 11km/l nia. I never even hit 500km for full tank.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 13, 2008, 12:33:53 PM
Hi

My lastest tank hit abt 10km/L after i chg all the 4 tyres to GR80. Kns.

Regards.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Latiorarri on October 13, 2008, 01:32:03 PM
Hi

My lastest tank hit abt 10km/L after i chg all the 4 tyres to GR80. Kns.

Regards.

Let ur tyre scrub in first lah.. ~ 200KM.. ;)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 13, 2008, 02:40:46 PM
Let ur tyre scrub in first lah.. ~ 200KM.. ;)

Had my car for 2 mths now....mileage 4000+....FC stabilized at 12-13km/l.....on days where i really roll my car...i can get close to 14km/l....
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on October 13, 2008, 03:18:43 PM
Let ur tyre scrub in first lah.. ~ 200KM.. ;)

Hi Latiorarri

200km? More than that already after I chg... one trip back to msia on the same day, two ways easily taken up 300 to 400km already....
Got to chk my next tank.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on October 13, 2008, 09:34:59 PM
Maybe the indicator spoil liao......:devil2: :devil2:
Sour grapes? :zipped: :zipped: :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: arias48 on October 14, 2008, 09:04:57 AM
hi arias

it's near the part where u "press" to open your boot.
after u open the boot, u just pay attention to that 'part', u can try to press to listen to the noise....
u will get me.

iagree, I did a try this morning. Basically when I pressed the boot opener button while the boot is closed, I can heard first 'part' sound, then if I follow the momentum to lift up my boot, I heard second 'part' sound. Another scenario is, with my boot opened, press the boot opener button, and I heard two 'part' sound continuously. My conclusion is, you would have two
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on October 14, 2008, 08:11:44 PM
ya.. sometime like that...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Latiorarri on October 15, 2008, 07:41:06 AM
Hi guys and gals! as promise attached is the latest milege for my full fuel tank.....pump in 37.5litres after light is up = 16.96km/litre! Its really still getting better with each tank  :yehyeh:

Wah say.. powerful xia  :D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: JLHeng on October 15, 2008, 01:07:03 PM
Hi guys and gals! as promise attached is the latest milege for my full fuel tank.....pump in 37.5litres after light is up = 16.96km/litre! Its really still getting better with each tank  :yehyeh:

Amazing sia..... wondering how u achieved that kind of mileage? Any tips to share???? :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 15, 2008, 07:21:08 PM
Did u set ur air-con to Auto? Our latio Auto air-con mode not so smart....if u leave the temp set at 25 and below, when u first start ur car in the morning...the temp inside the car is definitely higher than 25 and the Auto mode will blow the air-con at max fan speed to cool the car to the temp tat u set....

what i am referring is actually on the outside of the car, each time I on the A/c after a few hours of inactivity, there is this loud hissing sound which last for a couple of seconds before it quieten down...

Well as for my FC this week, new record low, drop to 10.5km/ltr, top up indicator light up at only 380km... :crycry:
and to make it a real bump of a week, got my first small dent and slight scratches on right passenger door...really sian :crycry:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 15, 2008, 07:47:29 PM
what i am referring is actually on the outside of the car, each time I on the A/c after a few hours of inactivity, there is this loud hissing sound which last for a couple of seconds before it quieten down...

Well as for my FC this week, new record low, drop to 10.5km/ltr, top up indicator light up at only 380km... :crycry:
and to make it a real bump of a week, got my first small dent and slight scratches on right passenger door...really sian :crycry:

Bro...  u change ur driving route or pattern or petrol? howcome drop? the small dent..can go to those paintless dent removal...abt 30 bucks
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on October 15, 2008, 08:00:13 PM
what i am referring is actually on the outside of the car, each time I on the A/c after a few hours of inactivity, there is this loud hissing sound which last for a couple of seconds before it quieten down...

Well as for my FC this week, new record low, drop to 10.5km/ltr, top up indicator light up at only 380km... :crycry:
and to make it a real bump of a week, got my first small dent and slight scratches on right passenger door...really sian :crycry:

I think all Latio got the hissing sound la,no worries , we are all the same. As for the dent, i feel don't waste you money to do la cos maybe tomorrow u get 1 again.It's hard to stay dent-free in sg.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 15, 2008, 08:04:54 PM
I think left the dent alone lar....really not worth to fix a dent for a few hundren bucks....live with it and wait for the next idiot to bang u and repair it together....can save money.,....think abt it....with the dent......any other scratch tat u get along the way...u wun feel so hurt.....:bleh: :bleh: :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on October 15, 2008, 08:46:21 PM
Amazing sia..... wondering how u achieved that kind of mileage? Any tips to share???? :confused1:
Errr......if u guys dun mind u can read up on the previous posting i made in this thread earlier on which states my driving style and my tips for acheiving good FC :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on October 16, 2008, 12:12:35 AM
what i am referring is actually on the outside of the car, each time I on the A/c after a few hours of inactivity, there is this loud hissing sound which last for a couple of seconds before it quieten down...

Well as for my FC this week, new record low, drop to 10.5km/ltr, top up indicator light up at only 380km... :crycry:
and to make it a real bump of a week, got my first small dent and slight scratches on right passenger door...really sian :crycry:
Your FC figure may be due to inconsistent pump attendant practise la.  Some attendants stop at auto stop, while others continue to pump in a couple of litre.  Hence, if your previous top up stop at auto stop and the latest top up is up to the brink, the calculation will not be accurate and will give you a lousy figure.  Unless you top up both times to the brink only then the figure is more accurate.  Just like my FC can fluncture between 10+ to 13+ because I let the attendants to decide when they want to stop.  After top-up, sometime the needle is way past the full mark and sometime is closer to the full mark.  So it is not accurate one.

It is only at times that I really want to know the FC that I will make sure that the top-up is to the brink for two consecutive tanks and do the calculation accordingly.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on October 16, 2008, 07:49:49 AM
what i am referring is actually on the outside of the car, each time I on the A/c after a few hours of inactivity, there is this loud hissing sound which last for a couple of seconds before it quieten down...

Well as for my FC this week, new record low, drop to 10.5km/ltr, top up indicator light up at only 380km... :crycry:
and to make it a real bump of a week, got my first small dent and slight scratches on right passenger door...really sian :crycry:

Thats why dont park beside a van or lorry.. they dont care about your car when they opened door...
dunno why they have to open their door so hard... :mad:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 16, 2008, 08:44:08 AM
Also dun park too near next to a car with child seat inside....parents/children usually open their door wide and hard when getting in and out....saw some parents did it when i was near my car....the parent only told the child off when i was standing there staring at them with a fierce look......
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 16, 2008, 08:50:14 AM
Your FC figure may be due to inconsistent pump attendant practise la.  Some attendants stop at auto stop, while others continue to pump in a couple of litre.  Hence, if your previous top up stop at auto stop and the latest top up is up to the brink, the calculation will not be accurate and will give you a lousy figure.  Unless you top up both times to the brink only then the figure is more accurate.  Just like my FC can fluncture between 10+ to 13+ because I let the attendants to decide when they want to stop.  After top-up, sometime the needle is way past the full mark and sometime is closer to the full mark.  So it is not accurate one.

It is only at times that I really want to know the FC that I will make sure that the top-up is to the brink for two consecutive tanks and do the calculation accordingly.

The actual volume of petrol that you get also depends on the time of the day that you pump.

Generally, you get more petrol when you pump on a cool day, or early in the morning, when petrol is more dense and there is less evaporation.

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: saycheese on October 16, 2008, 09:17:56 AM
Thats why dont park beside a van or lorry.. they dont care about your car when they opened door...
dunno why they have to open their door so hard... :mad:

the reason is becoz those  lorries the doors the spring mostly is spolit. so once they push the door open, it just open wide.  So they just cant b bothered .

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on October 16, 2008, 11:22:16 AM
The actual volume of petrol that you get also depends on the time of the day that you pump.

Generally, you get more petrol when you pump on a cool day, or early in the morning, when petrol is more dense and there is less evaporation.

Don't think the volume difference is so significant that it could affect FC by a noticeable figure.  For example, for a difference in FC of, say, 12.5 vs 12 km/l due to this reason, the difference is about 4%.  This means that for every 35 litres of petrol pumped, 1.4 litre is lost due to evaporation (-- not sure about the density part). This is a lot of petrol.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on October 16, 2008, 11:44:27 AM
Thats why dont park beside a van or lorry.. they dont care about your car when they opened door...
dunno why they have to open their door so hard... :mad:
No way to escape one.  You may choose not to park beside van and lorry but after you have parked, they will come and park beside you.  No horse run one.  Just accept it lor.  Heng suay one la.  The fender area above the front left wheel of my previous car kenna so many times from lorries.  Only left side and not right.  I suspect it is because the lorry driver open the door till it touches my car, then he climb up and the lorry will be lowered a bit by his weight.  Hence, the mark.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jo_Lee on October 16, 2008, 12:15:09 PM
my car also got little marks, dent and scratches kenna from other ppl's car doors..initially
felt very heart pain and angry but as time goes by, i can't be bothered liao..its juz part and
parcel of owning a car.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on October 16, 2008, 02:35:20 PM
actually not all lorry/van will knock our car doors. my car always park beside lorry/van(not i choose hor, they come park beside me  :devil2: ). so far ok. but there was once when i parked beside bmw. next day i saw passenger side door paint chipped off  :mad:

now i don't bother liao. even if i choose not to park beside lorry/van, they will still come and park beside me. don't wan to play hide and seek with them  ::)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 16, 2008, 08:34:49 PM
Also dun park too near next to a car with child seat inside....parents/children usually open their door wide and hard when getting in and out....saw some parents did it when i was near my car....the parent only told the child off when i was standing there staring at them with a fierce look......

Experience talk.  :D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: david1881 on October 16, 2008, 09:30:29 PM
Not true that lorries and van causes the dents. 
I own an eurovan for 3.5year.  I always try to park next to decent car and not next to lorries or van but from experience cars were the one making the dents!  Dunno how they open the door!
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on October 17, 2008, 11:10:57 PM
Not true that lorries and van causes the dents. 
I own an eurovan for 3.5year.  I always try to park next to decent car and not next to lorries or van but from experience cars were the one making the dents!  Dunno how they open the door!

A lot of people simply BO CHAP !  :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: car_man on October 17, 2008, 11:13:33 PM
Not true that lorries and van causes the dents. 
I own an eurovan for 3.5year.  I always try to park next to decent car and not next to lorries or van but from experience cars were the one making the dents!  Dunno how they open the door!

A lot of people simply Bo Chap !  :crying: No Choice Lo. I have maintain dent free for 9months.....See when i can maintain long enough for Guiness record :devil2:  :D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on October 17, 2008, 11:17:17 PM
A lot of people simply BO CHAP !  :devil2:

hi all,  really hv to ask ourselves if we at times also got "Bo CHAP" attitude or not.... :devil2: if yes, just be more considerate to others next time and hopefully in turn they will do the same to us, right :thumbsup: 
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 18, 2008, 03:55:56 PM
Bro...  u change ur driving route or pattern or petrol? howcome drop? the small dent..can go to those paintless dent removal...abt 30 bucks

no change in pattern, morning traffic for me go by KJE  from CCK exit to Jln. Bahar, speed average 60km at about 1800rpm then from Jl. Bahar down to Jurong Island taking in traffic lights and all if no jam take about 15 mins around 50km/hr. But I do notice that if got jam, the FC lagi worse....

For the dent I know who did it but bo bian give benefit of doubt and get it fixed later...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 18, 2008, 03:58:40 PM
Your FC figure may be due to inconsistent pump attendant practise la.  Some attendants stop at auto stop, while others continue to pump in a couple of litre.  Hence, if your previous top up stop at auto stop and the latest top up is up to the brink, the calculation will not be accurate and will give you a lousy figure.  Unless you top up both times to the brink only then the figure is more accurate.  Just like my FC can fluncture between 10+ to 13+ because I let the attendants to decide when they want to stop.  After top-up, sometime the needle is way past the full mark and sometime is closer to the full mark.  So it is not accurate one.

It is only at times that I really want to know the FC that I will make sure that the top-up is to the brink for two consecutive tanks and do the calculation accordingly.

I normally track the FC frm the total distance traveled till top up which before was around 430 to 440 with 38 to 39 ltrs of petrol but this couple of rounds noticed that it has dropped to about 380 to 400 before indicator comes on and top up 39 litres...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 18, 2008, 04:01:21 PM
Thats why dont park beside a van or lorry.. they dont care about your car when they opened door...
dunno why they have to open their door so hard... :mad:

that why i always parked in those single lots one which may be a bit tight but hehehe can sleep soundly for the night knowing no other cars beside you  :devil2: :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 18, 2008, 04:56:26 PM
no change in pattern, morning traffic for me go by KJE  from CCK exit to Jln. Bahar, speed average 60km at about 1800rpm then from Jl. Bahar down to Jurong Island taking in traffic lights and all if no jam take about 15 mins around 50km/hr. But I do notice that if got jam, the FC lagi worse....

For the dent I know who did it but bo bian give benefit of doubt and get it fixed later...

I told my SA about my poor FC...he insist that Latio FC is ard 10-11 one..normal..then I ask him, I might as well drive SUV. He tiam tiam...so I arrange for the road test during my 5k servicing. He even tell me it is NORMAL to have RUSTY parts in the car...maybe next time I see him, I will quote him that..Nissan cars is ok to RUST one when new.....sigh..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Zylon on October 18, 2008, 06:57:35 PM
I told my SA about my poor FC...he insist that Latio FC is ard 10-11 one..normal..then I ask him, I might as well drive SUV. He tiam tiam...so I arrange for the road test during my 5k servicing. He even tell me it is NORMAL to have RUSTY parts in the car...maybe next time I see him, I will quote him that..Nissan cars is ok to RUST one when new.....sigh..
hahahaha :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: ckyc on October 18, 2008, 11:24:04 PM
I told my SA about my poor FC...he insist that Latio FC is ard 10-11 one..normal..then I ask him, I might as well drive SUV. He tiam tiam...so I arrange for the road test during my 5k servicing. He even tell me it is NORMAL to have RUSTY parts in the car...maybe next time I see him, I will quote him that..Nissan cars is ok to RUST one when new.....sigh..

haha you are not alone lah, my car FC over an average of 15,000km is 11.31.

4at + $10 spark cable + antiroll bar and lower front strut

somemore i not the type tt rev & brake hard one - just live with it..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on October 18, 2008, 11:38:55 PM
I told my SA about my poor FC...he insist that Latio FC is ard 10-11 one..normal..then I ask him, I might as well drive SUV. He tiam tiam...so I arrange for the road test during my 5k servicing. He even tell me it is NORMAL to have RUSTY parts in the car...maybe next time I see him, I will quote him that..Nissan cars is ok to RUST one when new.....sigh..

hi Keromond, mine at ~3yrs old still can hit ~12km/l...u may use this to challenge yr SA...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 19, 2008, 12:26:26 AM
I told my SA about my poor FC...he insist that Latio FC is ard 10-11 one..normal..then I ask him, I might as well drive SUV. He tiam tiam...so I arrange for the road test during my 5k servicing. He even tell me it is NORMAL to have RUSTY parts in the car...maybe next time I see him, I will quote him that..Nissan cars is ok to RUST one when new.....sigh..

Have you tried using different brands of petrol to see which one suits your Latio best to give the best mileage?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 19, 2008, 11:39:32 AM
wonder how many of us here bought last year stocks and have problems with the FC? Mine is....got car end July and now about 4500km...or as mentioned by some the car needs to run in by 10000km to achieve better mileage?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 19, 2008, 11:41:19 AM
I told my SA about my poor FC...he insist that Latio FC is ard 10-11 one..normal....
haiz different people sings different tune...my SA told me shouldn't be the case and should achieve at least 12.5km/ltr... :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: chansm78 on October 19, 2008, 12:09:02 PM
I got last year stock, got my car end of August. 80% Highway. Avg fc round 14.5km/l. Now early morning no on aircon, so got 15.68km/l last tank. 16 inch rims. Using Esso 95.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on October 19, 2008, 08:43:25 PM
I got last year stock, got my car end of August. 80% Highway. Avg fc round 14.5km/l. Now early morning no on aircon, so got 15.68km/l last tank. 16 inch rims. Using Esso 95.

i think we get around the same time le.. my avg fc around 13.5~14 km/l.. on stock 15 rims.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 19, 2008, 09:31:47 PM
hi Keromond, mine at ~3yrs old still can hit ~12km/l...u may use this to challenge yr SA...

I challenge him few times...then met another SA who actually advise me to do the test...else I also wun know...think sometimes some SA just want to get away it.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 19, 2008, 09:33:30 PM
Have you tried using different brands of petrol to see which one suits your Latio best to give the best mileage?

I tried a few liao...Esso 95 or 98 gives me 11.5
shell vpower 12
Caltex platinum 11.5 also

think average is 11.5....(my driving is 90% HW, speed from 80-100, rpm never exceed 2.5k)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 19, 2008, 10:02:30 PM
I tried a few liao...Esso 95 or 98 gives me 11.5
shell vpower 12
Caltex platinum 11.5 also

think average is 11.5....(my driving is 90% HW, speed from 80-100, rpm never exceed 2.5k)

If your driving is 90% HW and yet manage only 11.5km/l, you must be quite heavy footer. Anyway no need to waste money on premiums petrol unless you have more to spend, believed you already aware that different grade of petrol will not contribute to FC or performance, what important is your right foot.  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 20, 2008, 09:50:05 AM
If your driving is 90% HW and yet manage only 11.5km/l, you must be quite heavy footer. Anyway no need to waste money on premiums petrol unless you have more to spend, believed you already aware that different grade of petrol will not contribute to FC or performance, what important is your right foot.  :smile:

Hmm...HW speed of 80-100, slow accelertion and never exceed 2.5k rpm...considered heavy footer?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 20, 2008, 09:54:12 AM
Your right foot is only 1 aspect that contributes to fuel economy.

You should also take note of the following factors to achieve maximum fuel economy :

1. Regular servicing and oil change
2. Properly inflated tyres
3. Removal of junk from your car boot to lessen the load.
4. Ensure that your car is clean to reduce drag from the surface dirt and grim
5. Not turning on your air conditioned at night
6. Make your trips when your engine is hot. Cold start consumes the most petrol

Anyone has more to add?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 20, 2008, 09:55:29 AM
Hmm...HW speed of 80-100, slow accelertion and never exceed 2.5k rpm...considered heavy footer?

That is perfectly normal acceleration and driving rpm, in fact, on the conservative side.   ;D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: detach8 on October 20, 2008, 01:47:55 PM
aye for those using non-stock rims you cannot just report your FC like that because if you use 16" rims your tyres may be bigger or smaller, making the distance inaccurate and thus incorrect FC... u need to compensate for this difference

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: vortex on October 20, 2008, 01:58:51 PM

6. Make your trips when your engine is hot. Cold start consumes the most petrol


Do you mean start the car only when the engine is warm ie blue light lit ? But leaving car idling with engine on will waste petrol ?

For me, almost move car slow when start engine. By the time you get out of the MSCP or to the main road, engine already warm. From here, then you can drive off faster. Isn't this a better way to save petrol and time ?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 20, 2008, 02:21:30 PM
What I meant is to do all your driving trips to run errands together, rather than to split it into 2 days, if time permits.

Eg. If I can do my supermarket shopping and collect something from my friend's house one after another on the same day, I would prefer to do that, rather than split these 2 errands into 2 separate trips over 2 days.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: vortex on October 20, 2008, 02:42:15 PM
Okie, okie. I agree. Planning in your route and multi-tasking is also important for energy saving.  ;D

Also to add to your list :
- avoid hard acceleration and hard braking.
- observe your BMI
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on October 20, 2008, 10:29:58 PM
Hmm...HW speed of 80-100, slow accelertion and never exceed 2.5k rpm...considered heavy footer?

Hmmm .... changed your rim or tyre ? What your mileage then ?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on October 21, 2008, 12:59:13 AM
I challenge him few times...then met another SA who actually advise me to do the test...else I also wun know...think sometimes some SA just want to get away it.

Hi Keromond, to add on to the FIRE :devil2: :devil2: :devil2:, my last tank gave me 13+km/l liao.. ;D..hit ~490km before the light up..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 21, 2008, 07:59:18 PM
Hmmm .... changed your rim or tyre ? What your mileage then ?

I did...16 inch RM rims n Falken 912. if thats the reason for such lousy FC (I think in another thread, some 16 inch do get 13+ FC), I just accept it la..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 21, 2008, 08:00:18 PM
Hi Keromond, to add on to the FIRE :devil2: :devil2: :devil2:, my last tank gave me 13+km/l liao.. ;D..hit ~490km before the light up..

 :crycry:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on October 21, 2008, 09:10:00 PM
:crycry:

Dont cry..  see any bro here want to exchange their 15with your 16..  sure got better FC..  :devil2: :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: maxngck on October 21, 2008, 09:14:51 PM
I did...16 inch RM rims n Falken 912. if thats the reason for such lousy FC (I think in another thread, some 16 inch do get 13+ FC), I just accept it la..

i only clocked less than 12km/l on 16". :crycry:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 21, 2008, 09:22:29 PM
I did...16 inch RM rims n Falken 912. if thats the reason for such lousy FC (I think in another thread, some 16 inch do get 13+ FC), I just accept it la..

Think of it tat u can overtake pple better and faster when cornering lor.....heehehe...sayang sayang...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: david1881 on October 22, 2008, 12:39:38 PM
My fc is quite consistent at 14.5km/l, partly due to my acceleration is slow.  Pedal more also can't feel the G-force, might as well just let it pick up slowly & save petrol.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 22, 2008, 06:55:16 PM
Dont cry..  see any bro here want to exchange their 15with your 16..  sure got better FC..  :devil2: :devil2:

Bro..u want to try try 16 ma keke  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: sam on October 22, 2008, 08:06:24 PM
Bro..u want to try try 16 ma keke  :thumbsup:

Bro. u serious to let go yr 16" rims.? mine is stock rims 10/10 condition but stock Toyo tyres 50%. any pics to show ?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on October 23, 2008, 12:04:17 AM
:crycry:

Hi Keromond, i thing i observed, my FC improved after i removed my baby seat (believed weight >7kgs). With yr 16" rims, the weight been added on -> the FC will drop lah...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: spyder_696 on October 23, 2008, 10:53:28 AM
8 months owning Latio sedan 4AT and many problems occur. :mad:

1)Whole interior lots of rattling noise.
2)Aircon not cold even at 18 degree
3)Sterring wheel turning got sound.
4)Engine noise becomes loud.

Sent to TCM and did the following

1)Insulate A pillar panel,side dashboard and center dashboard
2)resercure driver side aircon vent
3)Change snap ring for steering.
4)Change aircon cooling coil,thermo sensor and cavuum.Reset aircon system.
5)Change body comb,evaporator assy and amplifier.

Good thing is the advisory attend to all my problem,
now Car is back to normal like day 1,,,But the issue is "Is Latio really that reliable" :confused1:
Don't know when problem will start again. :(
My previous Corolla G9 at least will last longer before problem occur.

new things are not built to last as good as the older days now for everything... :)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: spyder_696 on October 23, 2008, 10:55:19 AM
U "buy" a wife also no guarantee good
Ppl buy "AIA" also now no guarantee
what else is certain in these kind of world nowadays

u bought a wife ah... sounds like u lost a lot at the dinner... lol...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on October 23, 2008, 11:15:14 AM
u bought a wife ah... sounds like u lost a lot at the dinner... lol...

Wat brand (country) wat make (age) & how much?? hehe.....:devil2: :devil2: :devil2: :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 23, 2008, 09:52:09 PM
Bro. u serious to let go yr 16" rims.? mine is stock rims 10/10 condition but stock Toyo tyres 50%. any pics to show ?

bro..u mean u willing to top up ar? keke...I just got my ride 2 mths.. one of the rim got abit scratched liao..dun think u keen liao rite
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on October 23, 2008, 09:55:00 PM
Hi Keromond, i thing i observed, my FC improved after i removed my baby seat (believed weight >7kgs). With yr 16" rims, the weight been added on -> the FC will drop lah...

Actually went to ubi TCM...cos my gearbox got some funny grinding sound when I slow down..wonder y also..happenned twice n when the mechanic go rd test with me..basket..it become ok again..anyway...back tp topic...the mechanic also told me...SURE can get min 14km/l one..if they hook up the meters to do the FC test..CVT can get 16. No matter how u go argue with them, end of the day, nothing much TCM can do for ur FC...just suck thumb n live with it..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on October 23, 2008, 10:07:37 PM
u bought a wife ah... sounds like u lost a lot at the dinner... lol...

honestly you won't know how much a wife will cost till the date you divorce....heehee :devil2: :devil2: :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on October 23, 2008, 11:58:30 PM
Actually went to ubi TCM...cos my gearbox got some funny grinding sound when I slow down..wonder y also..happenned twice n when the mechanic go rd test with me..basket..it become ok again..anyway...back tp topic...the mechanic also told me...SURE can get min 14km/l one..if they hook up the meters to do the FC test..CVT can get 16. No matter how u go argue with them, end of the day, nothing much TCM can do for ur FC...just suck thumb n live with it..

Hi keromond, maybe u should challenge them to go a drive with u (after top up petrol to full) and to round for 3 hours and to top u petrol again to gauge...If the FC still as bad, F*** them...If the FC is realy >14km/l (with them around)..maybe u should compensate them for the 3 hrs drive...hahaha
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on October 24, 2008, 10:32:35 AM
... and get them to pay for your petrol. They have lots of SPC petrol vouchers on hand, left over from the "Get a S$10 SPC Petrol Voucher for Every Test Drive" promotion.   :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: baobao on October 24, 2008, 10:14:43 PM
Hi keromond, maybe u should challenge them to go a drive with u (after top up petrol to full) and to round for 3 hours and to top u petrol again to gauge...If the FC still as bad, F*** them...If the FC is realy >14km/l (with them around)..maybe u should compensate them for the 3 hrs drive...hahaha

Hi.. Keromond.. maybe you should learn from the master.. how to drive with good FC?  :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on November 02, 2008, 11:45:04 PM
Hi everyone! I will be trying for 400km mark at half tank as the milege now is really looking good :yehyeh: haha i like the kick of smashing my own fc again and again :thumbsup: May the force be with me :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on November 03, 2008, 12:14:43 AM
hi fri13th, u worked in Tan Chong ah? Sound like u r promoting latio car leh? Can't believe the meter except u keep on pumping the petrol after certain milleage (just a jokes)! My current tank at about the same mark, only at 70km distance travel (my best FC is ~13km/l in sg and as in NSHW, believed can achievce somewhere around 16 ~17km/l), my car model, premium, yr 2005, all stock. In sg, abt 60%HW and 40%housing area (hardly enter to city, but every weekends sure go to JB to top up petrol, dinning + shopping there) :devil2: :devil2: :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on November 03, 2008, 12:34:13 AM
hi fri13th, u worked in Tan Chong ah? Sound like u r promoting latio car leh? Can't believe the meter except u keep on pumping the petrol after certain milleage (just a jokes)! My current tank at about the same mark, only at 70km distance travel (my best FC is ~13km/l in sg and as in NSHW, believed can achievce somewhere around 16 ~17km/l), my car model, premium, yr 2005, all stock. In sg, abt 60%HW and 40%housing area (hardly enter to city, but every weekends sure go to JB to top up petrol, dinning + shopping there) :devil2: :devil2: :devil2:
Haha i am totally unrelated to tan chong in any way...and my wife used to work in borneo motors as a service engineer funny right? we could get really good deals if we buy toyota cos she got many friends in there but after we test drove the latio we knew which was the better car for our family as comfort was our piority and now with the good fc it was really a surprise and bonus to us :yehyeh: last month i went to bukit timah to service my car and saw the SC she ask me how was my car fc and told her around 16-17km/litre and still improving she almost fell off her chair :devil2: she wanted to take video of my testimonial to show her coustomer in order to sell more car but i decline her....i also like to go JB once a while to stock up grocery,baby milk powder eat and pump petrol :thumbsup: next time we can get a few more bros here and convoy there :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on November 03, 2008, 12:46:08 AM
hi bro fri13th, u still keep yr tyre pressure at 270 and 250? I do observed a bit of FC improved when 1 increased from 210 for both front and rear tyres to 240 and 220 now. Ok to convoy to JB, mb Jusco is the gd location then..Thanks. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on November 03, 2008, 12:54:05 AM
Yes its still 270 and 250 for my tyre pressure i think its 1 of the factors which i am able to get good FC :thumbsup: Jusco is good place to go with family as my kid loves the rides and games at level 3 everything under 1 roof :thumbsup: most important is my family feel safe there to shop and eat in peace :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on November 03, 2008, 01:05:26 AM
Thanks bro, will see if i dare to pump to 270 and 250  :devil2:... Thanks :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: HumbleCar on November 03, 2008, 09:27:07 AM
Not comfortable with such high pressure.  Safety may be compromised.  (Just my personal opinion.)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on November 03, 2008, 09:47:58 AM
Such high presure of 250 and 270 KPa is way too dangerous as your car's tyres has minimal contact with the rd and you risk more wear on the ctr of your tyre thread.

Max 230KPa is safer.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Ying on November 03, 2008, 10:37:31 AM
Yes its still 270 and 250 for my tyre pressure i think its 1 of the factors which i am able to get good FC :thumbsup: Jusco is good place to go with family as my kid loves the rides and games at level 3 everything under 1 roof :thumbsup: most important is my family feel safe there to shop and eat in peace :thumbsup:

may I know your tyre profile?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Ender on November 03, 2008, 01:45:06 PM
Hi everyone! I will be trying for 400km mark at half tank as the milege now is really looking good :yehyeh: haha i like the kick of smashing my own fc again and again :thumbsup: May the force be with me :devil2:

Your FC is so unreal.. I would get about 70~80 km for that needle position. I normally get about 11.5km/L after I top up.. Yours is 2.5 times mine, that means you getting 11.5*2.5=28.75 km/L :ohmy:

The only time I got close to that level was 150 km at that first 1/4 mark, coz I was on the NSHW.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: vypez on November 03, 2008, 08:09:54 PM
Such high presure of 250 and 270 KPa is way too dangerous as your car's tyres has minimal contact with the rd and you risk more wear on the ctr of your tyre thread.

Max 230KPa is safer.

really? have you ever heard of too low pressure, the whole tyre came off the rim?

230kpa max is too low if you pump on a very hot afternoon just after you drove about 20km. why? hot air.

if you bother checking after you pump when the tires are cold, they are probably about 200kpa
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on November 03, 2008, 11:15:37 PM
will try to increase the tyre pressure while in Sg and will reduce to 240 and 220 when going to malaysia...  ;)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on November 03, 2008, 11:46:01 PM
really? have you ever heard of too low pressure, the whole tyre came off the rim?

230kpa max is too low if you pump on a very hot afternoon just after you drove about 20km. why? hot air.

if you bother checking after you pump when the tires are cold, they are probably about 200kpa

errh.. can u explain y the whole tyre will come off the rim?  :confused1:

over inflation can be risky as pressure inside the tyres will expand during travel. the hot air will cause quite substantial pressure build up. if u are travelling long distances, e.g. to msia, do not overinflate the tires.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on November 04, 2008, 12:02:22 AM
Wah soo many kia si ppl around :zipped: FYI 230 and 210 tyre pressure is only a recommended guide by nissan lar pump a bit higher wont make ur tyre burst 1....the most is a harsher ride only so far my tyres still the outer side wear more than the center part leh...maximum cold pressure is 300kpa for our stock toyo tyres soo we should be ok when we pump below that :devil2:
BTW to each his own if u all dun fell good just stick to the recommended pressure lor...and i can continue to come here and post my FC to terrorise u all :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on November 04, 2008, 12:20:52 AM
Wah soo many kia si ppl around :zipped: FYI 230 and 210 tyre pressure is only a recommended guide by nissan lar pump a bit higher wont make ur tyre burst 1....the most is a harsher ride only so far my tyres still the outer side wear more than the center part leh...maximum cold pressure is 300kpa for our stock toyo tyres soo we should be ok when we pump below that :devil2:
BTW to each his own if u all dun fell good just stick to the recommended pressure lor...and i can continue to come here and post my FC to terrorise u all :devil2:

errhh... bro, I am not offended but i tink u shouldn't label those who don't onverinflate their tyres as kiasi rite? some of us here are juz more concerned abt the safety rather than FC. And we are all learning and sharing info here coz we have doubts.  i tink u won't like it if others call u kiasu bcoz u try every ways & means to achieve good FC rite?

u are rite in saying overinflating abit is alrite. but even though the max pressure for toyo is 300, it doesn't mean there will be no risks when its inflated to that level. main thing is to strike a balance.

anyway my tire pressure is 245 front and 230 back. overinflate oso coz i dun drive long distances.  ;)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on November 04, 2008, 12:23:53 AM
fri13th,

The savings in fuel consumption is not worth the risk of a lack of grip due to your overinflated tyres.

You not only subject your family's lives to great risk, but other road users' too.

270KPa is on the high side even for a full load of 5.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on November 04, 2008, 12:24:23 AM
hi bro, i'll be the 1st one being attacked by u  :fighting: liao...will try to increase in small step b4 really ramp up to 270 and 250 (to me maybe max at 260 and 240 nia, really kia si and no guts mah...) :bleh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on November 04, 2008, 12:34:16 AM
errhh... bro, I am not offended but i tink u shouldn't label those who don't onverinflate their tyres as kiasi rite? some of us here are juz more concerned abt the safety rather than FC. And we are all learning and sharing info here coz we have doubts.  i tink u won't like it if others call u kiasu bcoz u try every ways & means to achieve good FC rite?

u are rite in saying overinflating abit is alrite. but even though the max pressure for toyo is 300, it doesn't mean there will be no risks when its inflated to that level. main thing is to strike a balance.

anyway my tire pressure is 245 front and 230 back. overinflate oso coz i dun drive long distances.  ;)
Errrm.......excuse me Mr not kia si and not kiasu i got ask anyone to inflate to 300kpa meh? Funny leh why do i have a feeling that u are offended by my comment of kiasi though u say u are not? maybe its just me :out: but kiasu me really find it funny that ppl would be offended by comment of  kiasi leh...i use it while toking with friends and even strangers and never in my 30+ yrs of humble life did anyone told me they are offended in anyway as its like a joking way of commenting on some ppl action
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on November 04, 2008, 12:48:39 AM
fri13th,

The savings in fuel consumption is not worth the risk of a lack of grip due to your overinflated tyres.

You not only subject your family's lives to great risk, but other road users' too.

270KPa is on the high side even for a full load of 5.
I wouldnt say its overinflated tyres but just that i pump higher than the recommended pressure by nissan and not toyo....overinflate in my dictionary would be pressure higher than the max 300 kpa as advise by toyo...my way of thinking is like ur eo in ur engine also tan chong recommend level of ur eo to be between low and high of our dip stick but when i got my car first day till now and pass through a few servicing the level is always at high and even over shoot it go and check the dipstick in the morning and u would know what i mean...can we trust the recommendation?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: law on November 04, 2008, 12:50:50 AM
Errrm.......excuse me Mr not kia si and not kiasu i got ask anyone to inflate to 300kpa meh? Funny leh why do i have a feeling that u are offended by my comment of kiasi though u say u are not? maybe its just me :out: but kiasu me really find it funny that ppl would be offended by comment of  kiasi leh...i use it while toking with friends and even strangers and never in my 30+ yrs of humble life did anyone told me they are offended in anyway as its like a joking way of commenting on some ppl action

ok my fren, u can have tat feeling that i am offended for all u wish. i dun wish to explain any further over such issues.

if u read my post, i didn't mention u ask ppl to pump to 300. i am juz saying max pressure is 300 but still will have some risks if pump to tat level. its juz to share some knowledge that i happen to have. u seem to take it too personally by bringing up your 30+yrs of life with your frens and strangers.

anyway, i will stop here. no point posting further on our miscommunications.

cheers!
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on November 04, 2008, 08:09:21 AM
errh.. can u explain y the whole tyre will come off the rim?  :confused1:

over inflation can be risky as pressure inside the tyres will expand during travel. the hot air will cause quite substantial pressure build up. if u are travelling long distances, e.g. to msia, do not overinflate the tires.

Hi,
Maybe let my shallow knowledge explain on behalf. We all should know how the tyre is taken out from a rim when we change tyre right ? We need to deflate it before we can push and pull the sidewall of the tyre before taking out from the rim, so I believe Bro vypez meant is if too low pressure and under the weight of the car acting upon the tyre, there is possibility of the tyre come off the rim, correct me if I have explained incorrectly.  ;)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iagree on November 04, 2008, 01:43:35 PM
hi bro, i'll be the 1st one being attacked by u  :fighting: liao...will try to increase in small step b4 really ramp up to 270 and 250 (to me maybe max at 260 and 240 nia, really kia si and no guts mah...) :bleh:

Hi LatioR

Your tyre really lut so high pressure?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: RG on November 04, 2008, 02:19:27 PM
Hi LatioR

Your tyre really lut so high pressure?

dun worry bout pumping high pressure bro, myself since the day i used the toyo stock J52 then changed to toyo T1R and now Re001 my pressure always the same front 280 rear 260. if i goin up North then it will be 260,240 (those who know me, they know how i drive  :bleh:). anyways those digital pump at the petrol kiosk are not accurate example, when u set to 260 and pump till it beeps, the actual reading will be around 257-255. dun believe try it, after pumping 260 till it beeps den u try pumping again the digital reading will read 255 and start pumping again till 260 and beep.  ;D
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on November 04, 2008, 08:32:35 PM
talking about tires...yesterday kena nail just at the side cannot mend... :crycry: went stamford and they didn't stock Toyo brand end up with a Falken costing me $120... :crycry:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: iwilly on November 04, 2008, 08:42:18 PM
talking about tires...yesterday kena nail just at the side cannot mend... :crycry: went stamford and they didn't stock Toyo brand end up with a Falken costing me $120... :crycry:

u change 1 pc only.
stamford only have falken and Continental
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: fri13th on November 04, 2008, 09:08:15 PM
talking about tires...yesterday kena nail just at the side cannot mend... :crycry: went stamford and they didn't stock Toyo brand end up with a Falken costing me $120... :crycry:
never go to stamford to change tires their price are out to chop carrot 1 :nonod: why dun u use ur spare tire?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on November 04, 2008, 09:22:29 PM
talking about tires...yesterday kena nail just at the side cannot mend... :crycry: went stamford and they didn't stock Toyo brand end up with a Falken costing me $120... :crycry:

You should have used your spare tyre, since your car is only 3 mth old and tyre wear on other tyres are minimal.

If you changed only 1 tyre, it is dangerous to use different brand with different tyre thread pattern on the same axle.

Tyres should be ideally be replaced in pairs, of similar brand and model no.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on November 04, 2008, 10:38:19 PM
Hi LatioR

Your tyre really lut so high pressure?

Hi iagree, i'm try to increase to max 260 and 240 lah...but not yet OK! Today, just try to increase to 250 and 235 (vs 240 and 220) and really can feel the car must ligther and easily to cheong...Will updates the FC once i've top up next week. :devil2:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on November 04, 2008, 10:45:54 PM
ok my fren, u can have tat feeling that i am offended for all u wish. i dun wish to explain any further over such issues.

if u read my post, i didn't mention u ask ppl to pump to 300. i am juz saying max pressure is 300 but still will have some risks if pump to tat level. its juz to share some knowledge that i happen to have. u seem to take it too personally by bringing up your 30+yrs of life with your frens and strangers.

anyway, i will stop here. no point posting further on our miscommunications.

cheers!

Hi law (and bro fri13th), need not too serious abt the feedback and share exp each one had. To each is his own mah.. :thumbsup:
For me, after understand how bro fri13th driving pattern (as posted in earlier reply) and driving within Sg sb OK one lah. Also like to
THANSK bro RG for another great input of trye pressure at 280 and 260 (wah lau A..)  :Cheers:, not sure my stock tyre > 3yrs can take this kind of pressure or not?

Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: RG on November 04, 2008, 10:53:03 PM
Hi law (and bro fri13th), need not too serious abt the feedback and share exp each one had. To each is his own mah.. :thumbsup:
For me, after understand how bro fri13th driving pattern (as posted in earlier reply) and driving within Sg sb OK one lah. Also like to
THANSK bro RG for another great input of trye pressure at 280 and 260 (wah lau A..)  :Cheers:, not sure my stock tyre > 3yrs can take this kind of pressure or not?




wads ur mileage for the tyres?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on November 04, 2008, 11:00:37 PM
You should have used your spare tyre, since your car is only 3 mth old and tyre wear on other tyres are minimal.

If you changed only 1 tyre, it is dangerous to use different brand with different tyre thread pattern on the same axle.

Tyres should be ideally be replaced in pairs, of similar brand and model no.

You telling people to use spare tyre all the way ?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on November 04, 2008, 11:01:33 PM
at 50,000 km now and the tyre thread still look quite ok (maybe at 50% wear and tear)..Intend to change early next year with Malaysia brand tyre, eg, Good Year or Dunlop from my cousin in law..
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on November 04, 2008, 11:59:41 PM
You telling people to use spare tyre all the way ?  :thumbsup:

His car was registered in July 2008, hence the spare tyre is still new and safe to use.

However, if his spare tyre has been sitting in the boot for several years and constantly exposed to the built up heat in the boot, then I would not advise him to swop with his punctured tyre with the spare tyre.


What are your thoughts on this?

Do you have a different view?
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Jazz on November 05, 2008, 12:15:24 AM
His car was registered in July 2008, hence the spare tyre is still new and safe to use.

However, if his spare tyre has been sitting in the boot for several years and constantly exposed to the built up heat in the boot, then I would not advise him to swop with his punctured tyre with the spare tyre.


What are your thoughts on this?

Do you have a different view?


Again curious are you old enough to drive or just a kid hide behind the monitor as a phantom web surfer having fun as a PCW. Do you really have knowledge of cars ?

To answer your question, spare tyre regardless of age is not meant for normal usage, it just an aid for you to get to the nearest tyre shop to repair your normal tyre, that how the spare tyre come about ?

Now quit spouting about the tyre exposing to heat and so fore, build up your knowledge before getting members here who are actually drivers to get hurt with your comments. Wake up kid. Sorry for being straight.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: clarence on November 05, 2008, 12:49:25 AM
Again curious are you old enough to drive or just a kid hide behind the monitor as a phantom web surfer having fun as a PCW. Do you really have knowledge of cars ?

To answer your question, spare tyre regardless of age is not meant for normal usage, it just an aid for you to get to the nearest tyre shop to repair your normal tyre, that how the spare tyre come about ?

Now quit spouting about the tyre exposing to heat and so fore, build up your knowledge before getting members here who are actually drivers to get hurt with your comments. Wake up kid. Sorry for being straight.



Alex,

There are 2 types of spare tyres.

Spare tyres can be full-size or temporary space saver 'mini spares'.

'Mini spares' are designed to take up less room in your vehicle and to get you to the nearesr tyre shop, but not to be driven on for long periods.

Latio comes with full size Toyo J50 185/65R15 spare tyres which are identical to the 4 tyres fitted on the Latio.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: burnolise on November 05, 2008, 09:12:32 AM


Alex,

There are 2 types of spare tyres.

Spare tyres can be full-size or temporary space saver 'mini spares'.

'Mini spares' are designed to take up less room in your vehicle and to get you to the nearesr tyre shop, but not to be driven on for long periods.

Latio comes with full size Toyo J50 185/65R15 spare tyres which are identical to the 4 tyres fitted on the Latio.

Totally agreed with Clarence on this. My first car, Altis, has a spare tyre tat was identical to the 4 tyres fitted and at 10k servicing...did rotation with the spare tyre so tat the wearing is even. The same happened when I drove a Ford Focus statonwagon when in europe. But when I was in another europe country, my Mazda 3 was having a smaller spare tyre....
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: dsrio on November 05, 2008, 01:28:47 PM
Again curious are you old enough to drive or just a kid hide behind the monitor as a phantom web surfer having fun as a PCW. Do you really have knowledge of cars ?

To answer your question, spare tyre regardless of age is not meant for normal usage, it just an aid for you to get to the nearest tyre shop to repair your normal tyre, that how the spare tyre come about ?

Now quit spouting about the tyre exposing to heat and so fore, build up your knowledge before getting members here who are actually drivers to get hurt with your comments. Wake up kid. Sorry for being straight.

Dun have to be so hostile bro, the manual did state that tyre rotation is recommended at every 10k, including spare tyre, so its true that the spare tyre can be use. But of course, provided you didn't upgrade to bigger rims  :smile:
As for me, I am actually thinking of removing my spare tyre so yup, my spare tyre is only for driving me to the next tyre shop in case of emergency, touch wood :bleh:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Carmodz on November 05, 2008, 04:33:02 PM
Dear forummers,

it is ok to discuss, exchange ideas and opinions. It won't be good to share wrong info, yes that i agree, but then again, that's where the others who know their can add in what they know to make right what's wrong. Herewith, discussions can take place, and forum interactivity levels will improve.

It is however, not quite acceptable to be personal. It might scare off others who would like to share, but scared of sharing due to personal attacks that may occur after he or she makes a post.

Let's try our best to be objective and neutral in our posts shall we? If any post or reply is wrong, pse correct the wrong, but in a diplomatic way. I certainly won't want to see TLC going thru online flamming again and then the moderators receive PMs about the situation.

Your co-operation is sought.

Thanks
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Ying on November 05, 2008, 06:22:48 PM
I wish I have the full size spare tyre. Mine is smaller temp spare tyre, compartment can't fit a full size.  :(


*mine is 2005 model
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on November 05, 2008, 08:46:35 PM
u change 1 pc only.
stamford only have falken and Continental

I used the Falken as the spare...if change both for the front wah big hole in pocket :crycry:
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on November 05, 2008, 08:48:37 PM
never go to stamford to change tires their price are out to chop carrot 1 :nonod: why dun u use ur spare tire?

kena the nail at a spot where repair would be useless....so bo pian have to change a new one....wanted to go to my regular tire shop but no time so bo pian end up with stamford...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on November 05, 2008, 08:49:50 PM
You should have used your spare tyre, since your car is only 3 mth old and tyre wear on other tyres are minimal.

If you changed only 1 tyre, it is dangerous to use different brand with different tyre thread pattern on the same axle.

Tyres should be ideally be replaced in pairs, of similar brand and model no.

yeah that why i decided to use the falken as spare....maybe later stage change both front to the same make...
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: MadMatty on November 05, 2008, 08:51:54 PM
Again curious are you old enough to drive or just a kid hide behind the monitor as a phantom web surfer having fun as a PCW. Do you really have knowledge of cars ?

To answer your question, spare tyre regardless of age is not meant for normal usage, it just an aid for you to get to the nearest tyre shop to repair your normal tyre, that how the spare tyre come about ?

Now quit spouting about the tyre exposing to heat and so fore, build up your knowledge before getting members here who are actually drivers to get hurt with your comments. Wake up kid. Sorry for being straight.

yeah i heard about that too....but apparently my spare is the same regular tire as the others that are fitted on the car....
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: LatioR on November 05, 2008, 11:12:05 PM
I wish I have the full size spare tyre. Mine is smaller temp spare tyre, compartment can't fit a full size.  :(


*mine is 2005 model

don't worry bro Ying, u r not alone...me too, yr 2005, Jul ;)
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Huatster888 on November 06, 2008, 06:18:38 PM
don't worry bro Ying, u r not alone...me too, yr 2005, Jul ;)
wat u mean by full size???u mean ur spare tyre is smaller then the actual wheels u r using now???wierd leh
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Ying on November 06, 2008, 06:22:47 PM
wat u mean by full size???u mean ur spare tyre is smaller then the actual wheels u r using now???wierd leh

yeap, and have to drive slow when using it. not wierd, I saw other car also using this type, lighter mah.
Title: Re: Latio not as good as mention.....
Post by: Keromond on November 07, 2008, 12:43:35 AM
HI all,

side track abit ar, but still something to do with LAtio not so good issues.. nowadays, when ever I go over some small hump...the vehicle will sway to left or right automatically... is it becos of balancing, alignment? it just happens n I realise my steering wheel like getting lighter...anyone else also have ar?  :(