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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: jliow on October 09, 2008, 11:56:58 PM
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Not sure any bros or sis can advise on the scenario
For some reasons, sometimes when parking car, I find shifting the stick from D to P like got something jam or got to push hard
Then from P to D, or even to R, the gear I have to pull back really hard and the shift sound really loud.
AT first I thought my brake padels not steped hard enough but confirm its not causing it, coz same problem when step the brake padel really hard
But these does not happen ALL the time, only occasionally, but getting frequent.
Any one can tell me whats wrong?
My mileage only 15K
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i was advised by tan chong's mechanic when i went for the first servicing last week that got to wait a little while for rpm to subside b4 shifting... mabe can try this out...
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Mine also got this problem very occasionally......i dun really bother...cos' i have driven other cars tat has similar problem...i tot it is normal...
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Mine also got this "problem". But it happens only when my car is not parked on a flat ground.
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I read from other car forums or maybe this forum.
2 steps:
When parking the car, first push to N, apply hand break (foot break for our latio), release break.
Step on break again, and push gear to P. Then off engine.
This is to ensure no stress for the transmission gears due to uneven surface or slopes. So when next time start engine, you can shift the gear from P to D more smoothly.
I usually off engine when in N. Just quickly step on break then push gear to P.
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I read from other car forums or maybe this forum.
2 steps:
When parking the car, first push to N, apply hand break (foot break for our latio), release break.
Step on break again, and push gear to P. Then off engine.
This is to ensure no stress for the transmission gears due to uneven surface or slopes. So when next time start engine, you can shift the gear from P to D more smoothly.
I usually off engine when in N. Just quickly step on break then push gear to P.
then you get the alarm sound when you off engine for "Gear not in P" every time you park your car?
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then you get the alarm sound when you off engine for "Gear not in P" every time you park your car?
Dun think the alarm will sound off in this case...there was a few occasion i switch off engine with the gear not in P....alarm did not sound off...except tat i can't start the engine again until i shift the gear to P....
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then you get the alarm sound when you off engine for "Gear not in P" every time you park your car?
I didn't remember any alarm sound for so many months of doing this.
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The main idea is to apply hand brake in gear N. So that the car is completed stopped before shifting gear to P. It doesn't matter if you off engine in N or P.
Any roll back or movement of the car will cause stress on the gear.
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The main idea is to apply hand brake in gear N. So that the car is completed stopped before shifting gear to P. It doesn't matter if you off engine in N or P.
Any roll back or movement of the car will cause stress on the gear.
Dun worry so much lar....jus enjoy ur ride...think of it this way...if there is no wear & tear...then there will be no excuse to change car after 2-3 years right? Imagine ur car is in tip top condition in terms of appearance and engine wise....then u see other cars newer with more chio outlook...then u look at ur tip top old model latio...signing tat the condition too good to sell it....haha......my way of using things........:bleh: :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
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You are right if you want to change car every 2~3 year but a change of small habit can protect the car better for those who want to use the car longer.
hmm... I remember my car did "reminded" me when I off the engine while my gear is in N. Will try it again later.
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Just feel if the condition persists, the car cannot last long, not all people are like minded to want to change car that often.
for the first 6 mnths don't have this problem, even have also i realise I did not step brake hard enough. The feel is so bad sometimes I feel the shift stick might break kind of feeling....
Just wanna know if others having latio is having this same issue
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for me, if i switch off engine but gear not in "P", the alarm will goes off and I can't even
turn the ignition switch fully to OFF.
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I've the same problem too, everytime when shift from P -> D, must really pull harder to get the stick down from P to D, even with the break fully pressed. The feeling is like I'm going to break the gear stick. ;D No problem from D -> P.
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for me, if i switch off engine but gear not in "P", the alarm will goes off and I can't even
turn the ignition switch fully to OFF.
A workaround will be to engage the foot brake, change the gear to "N", turn off the engine, change to "P" then turn the ignition switch completely to off.
Let us know whether that works =)
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A workaround will be to engage the foot brake, change the gear to "N", turn off the engine, change to "P" then turn the ignition switch completely to off.
Let us know whether that works =)
thanks..whenever i hear the alarm after engine off, I know i'm not in "P" gear...the alarm will juz keep beeping until i hv engaged "P"
and turn switch completely off..this is a safety feature for all auto cars right ?
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I've the same problem too, everytime when shift from P -> D, must really pull harder to get the stick down from P to D, even with the break fully pressed. The feeling is like I'm going to break the gear stick. ;D No problem from D -> P.
I assumed you did press the unlock button with your thumb when you shift P->D right? it is a safety feature to warn drive the car is going to move off and look around you for other people or car before you drive, simple logic but there was tragic. D->P dun need to warn the driver if you are parked so no lock.
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thanks..whenever i hear the alarm after engine off, I know i'm not in "P" gear...the alarm will juz keep beeping until i hv engaged "P"
and turn switch completely off..this is a safety feature for all auto cars right ?
same as mine
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for the alarm sound, it won't sound if you just switch off engine. The ignition switch should be at ACC position.
it only sounds if you try to switch from ACC position to Lock.
So if in gear N and you switch off the engine and continue turning the switch to Lock, you will hear the alarm sound. But if you just switch off the engine and it remains at ACC, there won't be alarm.
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Ok this one is quite hard to explain, must visualize.
When u put to park, some of the teeth of some gear will lock into another gear's slot. So when you park on slope and put to D and release brake, you will feel the car roll abit before the teeth locks the car into a stationary position. So when you release from P next time, its harder to pull because the weight of the cars are on the teeth.
Solution is to put to N, engage parking brake(use leg for latio one), release your foot brake(the one you use to brake normally), den change gear to P.
Check this page out for more info.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission5.htm
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for the alarm sound, it won't sound if you just switch off engine. The ignition switch should be at ACC position.
it only sounds if you try to switch from ACC position to Lock.
So if in gear N and you switch off the engine and continue turning the switch to Lock, you will hear the alarm sound. But if you just switch off the engine and it remains at ACC, there won't be alarm.
you are right! can only lock at P but can off engine at N
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Ok this one is quite hard to explain, must visualize.
When u put to park, some of the teeth of some gear will lock into another gear's slot. So when you park on slope and put to D and release brake, you will feel the car roll abit before the teeth locks the car into a stationary position. So when you release from P next time, its harder to pull because the weight of the cars are on the teeth.
Solution is to put to N, engage parking brake(use leg for latio one), release your foot brake(the one you use to brake normally), den change gear to P.
Check this page out for more info.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission5.htm
Ok, golden question: Does that apply for CVT?
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Not very familiar with CVT leh. Hehehe.
Why don't you try parking on slope and using P without parking brake? If it rolls abit and stop, then its the same thing. But then again, better ask someone more pro. :unsure:
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Ok this one is quite hard to explain, must visualize.
When u put to park, some of the teeth of some gear will lock into another gear's slot. So when you park on slope and put to D and release brake, you will feel the car roll abit before the teeth locks the car into a stationary position. So when you release from P next time, its harder to pull because the weight of the cars are on the teeth.
Solution is to put to N, engage parking brake(use leg for latio one), release your foot brake(the one you use to brake normally), den change gear to P.
Check this page out for more info.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission5.htm
I try the method; change to N then off ignition then change to P then turn off engine. When release from P next time, much easier to shift.
Will try this method and feedback
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So I presumed this is known problem and there is NOTHING much TCM can do, just have to follow the workaround instruction that suggested by various pro here. Going for my 1K service soon.
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I think when u park the car at e slope carpark or wat..... the gear shifting will be slightly hard to pull :confused1: :confused1:
I think it normal just that u need to step harder on the pedal.... ::) ::)
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I think when u park the car at e slope carpark or wat..... the gear shifting will be slightly hard to pull :confused1: :confused1:
I think it normal just that u need to step harder on the pedal.... ::) ::)
Nono, not step harder, is pull the gearshift harder. You will be able to push the button once the brake is stepped on, doesn't matter how hard you step.
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Ok this one is quite hard to explain, must visualize.
When u put to park, some of the teeth of some gear will lock into another gear's slot. So when you park on slope and put to D and release brake, you will feel the car roll abit before the teeth locks the car into a stationary position. So when you release from P next time, its harder to pull because the weight of the cars are on the teeth.
Solution is to put to N, engage parking brake(use leg for latio one), release your foot brake(the one you use to brake normally), den change gear to P.
Check this page out for more info.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission5.htm
Tried this. It works ! Much easier to engage to D from P liao now.
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That's because the weight of the car is not resting on the gears. ;D
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Ok this one is quite hard to explain, must visualize.
When u put to park, some of the teeth of some gear will lock into another gear's slot. So when you park on slope and put to D and release brake, you will feel the car roll abit before the teeth locks the car into a stationary position. So when you release from P next time, its harder to pull because the weight of the cars are on the teeth.
Solution is to put to N, engage parking brake(use leg for latio one), release your foot brake(the one you use to brake normally), den change gear to P.
Hi Bro, in your last sentence, do you mean to change gear from N to P without stepping on the foot brake?
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No, you have to put to P as the last step.
1. Engage the parking brake. The one you step in and hear it click.
2. Release your normal brakes.
3. Let the car roll abit, then shift to P.
4. Next time when you start the car, step on brakes, start engine, release parking brake, change gear, then drive.
I tried it and it should work okay.
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No, you have to put to P as the last step.
1. Engage the parking brake. The one you step in and hear it click.
2. Release your normal brakes.
3. Let the car roll abit, then shift to P.
4. Next time when you start the car, step on brakes, start engine, release parking brake, change gear, then drive.
I tried it and it should work okay.
Thanks. Do you also off the ignition and then the engine like what the other bro did during the process of changing to N, then release brake, then change to P?
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Actually you can off the engine anytime in any gear, I believe. Shouldn't do any damage. Important thing is just to let the car roll to a stop fully on the parking brake, then shift to P.
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Actually you can off the engine anytime in any gear, I believe. Shouldn't do any damage. Important thing is just to let the car roll to a stop fully on the parking brake, then shift to P.
Can we shift from N to P if engine is off? Have never tried that. Assuming that it is at P, and if engine is off, I cannot shift the gear out of P because when step on brake, it does not release the gear. In any case, I got your point.
Wanted to try just down, but old habit dies hard. I automatically shifted to P and then off engine before I could try to shift to N and let it roll. Will try next time.
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No, you have to put to P as the last step.
1. Engage the parking brake. The one you step in and hear it click.
2. Release your normal brakes.
3. Let the car roll abit, then shift to P.
4. Next time when you start the car, step on brakes, start engine, release parking brake, change gear, then drive.
I tried it and it should work okay.
Hi Bro,
This really works. The best solution I have tried. Since I tried it a few days ago, changing gear from P to D no problem at all.
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Hi Bro,
This really works. The best solution I have tried. Since I tried it a few days ago, changing gear from P to D no problem at all.
When doing this, the gear should be at D or N?
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When doing this, the gear should be at D or N?
Should be at N.
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When doing this, the gear should be at D or N?
Hi Bro, the sequence is listed step-by-step by SoL above. After a few days, now I am already gotten used to the "odd' sequence of the steps required to put the gear to P when parking. Put to N then step foot-brake (the one on the left) then release the normal brake (the middle one) to let the car roll a abit (- sometimes no roll). Lastly, then put to P.
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The trick is to allow parking brake to "bite" the wheels and do not allow anymore roll before trying to shift to P.
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when I put to N, then foot brake, then off engine then shift to P, what will happen? it is no good? coz seems smoother this way
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Seems better. If I shift to P before stepping footbrake, the shift will not be smooth
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Whatever you do, just remember to shift to P as the last step. Best to let the car roll to a complete stop i.e. let the car rest on the parking brake, then shift to P.
That way the car won't roll and let the teeth lock into place.