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Title: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: lation on December 14, 2008, 09:39:01 PM
Hi, i am a new latio car owner of abt 3mths. Have went for my 2nd servicing already. I recently noticed that my mileage needle has dropped drastically. Usually, it can fetch me abt 11-13km/L. However, i realised that the needle is now at half tank mark and the mileage is only recorded at 189KM. I was astonish and very worried.

If there is anyone with similar experiences, pls provide some pointers?
MAny Thanks~
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Ying on December 14, 2008, 09:55:34 PM
did you change tyre size?
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: lation on December 14, 2008, 11:55:01 PM
erh..mine is 15" given by Tan Chong. Does the psi of the tyres has an impact? isit mine too low?
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Ying on December 18, 2008, 04:10:46 PM
if you change the rim and tire, your mileage meter may be off. Sure, air pressure is important for FC, check it soon.

189 half mark hor.... sometime I also get that but It is due to my driving route and luck (red light, slow big bus turning etc). 
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Nonsense on December 18, 2008, 06:22:50 PM
Usually I get 80km for 1st quater...den 250km for half mark den 350 for 3rd quater..

Mostly city driving..Usually I get 11-12km/l..but I change stock rims to a replica now and im getting 15km/l...

Dunno accurate anot..because last calculation was pumped at half mark...
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: velvis on December 19, 2008, 12:54:58 PM
Hi, need advise from you guys. I bought my Latio sport CVT 2 month ago and i also having this problem too. My full tank can only allow me to drive not more than 360km. Is it Ok?
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: wave on December 19, 2008, 12:58:27 PM
My mileage drop drastically too after 1st servicing... but after 2nd servicing it revert back to 250km at half tank mark....

I think its because of the ECU tuning.... after servicing the ecu WILL RELEARN your driving paTTERN.....that's what i was told.....

but now my mileage is pretty consistent.... at 13km/hr
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Ying on December 19, 2008, 01:01:32 PM
Hi, need advise from you guys. I bought my Latio sport CVT 2 month ago and i also having this problem too. My full tank can only allow me to drive not more than 360km. Is it Ok?

for almost 100% city short start stop driving, ~400km for my CVT. 360km is a bit too low.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Garf83 on December 20, 2008, 01:05:50 AM
 ;D Moved this thread here, more suitable place...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: elton_897 on December 20, 2008, 09:59:53 AM
Hi, i am a new latio car owner of abt 3mths. Have went for my 2nd servicing already. I recently noticed that my mileage needle has dropped drastically. Usually, it can fetch me abt 11-13km/L. However, i realised that the needle is now at half tank mark and the mileage is only recorded at 189KM. I was astonish and very worried.

If there is anyone with similar experiences, pls provide some pointers?
MAny Thanks~

Did you pump your petrol till very full?
The floater in our car not that good & is not accurate.
I use to pump till the tip of it & end up i need to change my floater.
Full tank but my reserve light on ,bring back to tc & change a new one.

They will have to take out your rear seat & need to wait for 1 day.
After collected my car is full of petrol smell.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: velvis on December 20, 2008, 11:29:08 PM
Thanks for the reply. So what should i suppose to do in order to get at least 400km? it that ok if me and my girlfriend are sharing the car? Can the ECU handle two person driving pattern?
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: wave on December 21, 2008, 11:34:24 AM
dun always ram your car lor....
my rpm normally stays within 2000 rpm....  :bleh:
if yours is a CVT also no point ramming....
better to let your car gradually speed up....
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: lation on December 21, 2008, 10:05:25 PM
Thanks for all the replies here. I will monitor it again. I usually only drive on highways. Could it be also due to i am still on mineral oil? Think i will highlight to TC when i am going for the 3rd servicing.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: bulleth9 on December 22, 2008, 10:09:45 AM
Hi Lation,

I had a same issue when I had my Latio Sport CVT 16inch rims after 2nd service1 (1000 km), guess its the mineral engine oil TCM provides for free, i was getting around 10km/l too.

I brought my own mineral oil for the 5000km servicing and it help slightly as i was using SAE40 oil.

After 10000km changed to synthetic oil after reading all the posts hear and it help jumped to around 12km/l  :thumbsup:
That is what my SE mentioned after i collected my car, it will around 12km/l after 10,000km.

Tried VPower and my latio is able to reach about 13km/l after 2 full tanks.

So just hang in there till you reach the milestone.

Bulleth9
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: liewks on December 22, 2008, 05:34:14 PM
Could it be possible that TC mechanics leave the engine running for extended periods while performing servicing tasks? It has happened to me before. Returns to normal the next tank.

BTW, TC usually adjust tyre pressures to ~200kPa after service. May want to bring that back up to at least the recommended levels.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: lation on December 23, 2008, 01:38:41 AM
Hi Lation,

I had a same issue when I had my Latio Sport CVT 16inch rims after 2nd service1 (1000 km), guess its the mineral engine oil TCM provides for free, i was getting around 10km/l too.

I brought my own mineral oil for the 5000km servicing and it help slightly as i was using SAE40 oil.

After 10000km changed to synthetic oil after reading all the posts hear and it help jumped to around 12km/l  :thumbsup:
That is what my SE mentioned after i collected my car, it will around 12km/l after 10,000km.

Tried VPower and my latio is able to reach about 13km/l after 2 full tanks.

So just hang in there till you reach the milestone.

Bulleth9

Thanks you sound very encouraging. Guess i will hang in there still. Now is nearing half tank and i am at 149KM. Pretty sian though. Will keep monitoring, maybe will highlight to TCM if it doesn't improves till then.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: lyh1280 on December 23, 2008, 10:39:38 AM
Hi All,

It has been discussed b4 here, where most of our needle will drop faster fr Full tank to middle, b4 slowdown to empty. Eg. for mine, 1/4 = ~80km, 1/2 = ~200km, 3/4 = ~350km, Near Empty ~470km. Few of us hv complained to TCM, nothing much they can do, altho TC tried to adjust (tink the Float sensor inside the fuel tank). One main reason they said is becos of the tank design (bottle neck which is more narrow on top, therefore needle drops faster during the begining).

More accurate/important is to monitor fr full tank to the empty light on, to calculate ur overall mileage. If there is any major changes in this, then u hv to check wat is causing it. :)


Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: lyh1280 on December 23, 2008, 10:42:42 AM
Of cos not happy with this problem, cos v "rugi" for us who travels v often to Msia, where the 3/4 rule apply. Hv to top-up earlier than suppose to b when lower than 3/4.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Jazz on December 23, 2008, 03:33:59 PM
Hi All,

It has been discussed b4 here, where most of our needle will drop faster fr Full tank to middle, b4 slowdown to empty. Eg. for mine, 1/4 = ~80km, 1/2 = ~200km, 3/4 = ~350km, Near Empty ~470km. Few of us hv complained to TCM, nothing much they can do, altho TC tried to adjust (tink the Float sensor inside the fuel tank). One main reason they said is becos of the tank design (bottle neck which is more narrow on top, therefore needle drops faster during the begining).

More accurate/important is to monitor fr full tank to the empty light on, to calculate ur overall mileage. If there is any major changes in this, then u hv to check wat is causing it. :)




Why or how you calculate your overall mileage for ? If you meant FC, regardless of what shape or how much fuel is used, you still able to calculate based on distance covered over your fuel quantity filled.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: lyh1280 on December 23, 2008, 10:32:27 PM
Why or how you calculate your overall mileage for ? If you meant FC, regardless of what shape or how much fuel is used, you still able to calculate based on distance covered over your fuel quantity filled.

No la, TS was worried y his needle drops so fast to half when only travel shorter distance, which is common for our Latio car, so might not b related to FC..
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: fri13th on December 23, 2008, 10:44:05 PM
Where got fast? :bleh: Attached is what i get at half tank regularly :devil2:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: zzyzx on December 23, 2008, 11:14:29 PM
Where got fast? :bleh: Attached is what i get at half tank regularly :devil2:

bro i tell you... 368 at half tank is madness. for me at 368 the needle is abt at the last quarter liao.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: fri13th on December 23, 2008, 11:27:03 PM
bro i tell you... 368 at half tank is madness. for me at 368 the needle is abt at the last quarter liao.
Hi bro! with abit of patience and practice u can join our madness club :devil2: read and practice what we do in attach thread http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=7240.0
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: mambo on January 01, 2009, 06:09:06 PM
I'm running on 205/45/R17 tyres and im getting bout 270km at the half tank marker. But as this is only my first tank i shall monitor it more but am surprise with the 17" its still gives decent mileage. As long as it fetches me around 12km/L im happy liao :D
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: clarence on January 02, 2009, 02:30:19 PM
I'm running on 205/45/R17 tyres and im getting bout 270km at the half tank marker. But as this is only my first tank i shall monitor it more but am surprise with the 17" its still gives decent mileage. As long as it fetches me around 12km/L im happy liao :D

That is excellent mileage on 17" rims and tyres. 

Do you do lots of highway driving?

I usually get 250km at the half tank mark, running on stock rims and tyres.

Mileage already 10,000km.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: gunner1976 on January 02, 2009, 02:57:27 PM
That is excellent mileage on 17" rims and tyres. 

Do you do lots of highway driving?

I usually get 250km at the half tank mark, running on stock rims and tyres.

Mileage already 10,000km.


hi clarence,

which petrol brand and RON u using?
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: mambo on January 04, 2009, 11:27:36 PM
That is excellent mileage on 17" rims and tyres. 

Do you do lots of highway driving?

I usually get 250km at the half tank mark, running on stock rims and tyres.

Mileage already 10,000km.

Well i do abit of both. I should say bout 60 % highway the rest city driving. Maybe im light footed as of now. Am on Esso 5000 which is RON95.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: clarence on January 04, 2009, 11:33:44 PM

hi clarence,

which petrol brand and RON u using?

Using Esso 95RON.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Lim_bei on January 04, 2009, 11:43:08 PM
Does the milage drops as the car gets older? Cos my car hits 60000+km already. I now i'm getting around 12 km/l.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: SoL on January 05, 2009, 01:10:49 PM
Of course! As people grow old they run slower too.  :bleh:

Try to have regular and proper maintenance, and your FC shouldn't drop alot.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: 1stTimer on January 05, 2009, 02:48:59 PM
Where got fast? :bleh: Attached is what i get at half tank regularly :devil2:

Hi fri13th... how u managed to travel so far with only half tank? advise lehz.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: 1stTimer on January 05, 2009, 02:52:27 PM
Hi,

Just sharing info... i also new owner of Latio Sport.

- my 1st Tank of Petrol run about 200km at half tank : FC 11.2
- my 2nd Tank of Petrol run about 180km at half tank : FC 12.7
- my current 3rd Tank of Petrol run about 240km at half tank : FC yet to top up

this is normal... i also facing 1st half the milleage meter really drop very very fast.. really scared the hell out of me..
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: rooneytoon2004 on January 05, 2009, 03:13:58 PM
Hi,

Just sharing info... i also new owner of Latio Sport.

- my 1st Tank of Petrol run about 200km at half tank : FC 11.2
- my 2nd Tank of Petrol run about 180km at half tank : FC 12.7
- my current 3rd Tank of Petrol run about 240km at half tank : FC yet to top up

this is normal... i also facing 1st half the milleage meter really drop very very fast.. really scared the hell out of me..

hi 1stTimer,

your FC of 11.2 & 12.7 is based on wat calculation?
xl/100km or km/l  :confused1:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: 1stTimer on January 05, 2009, 03:22:03 PM
hi 1stTimer,

your FC of 11.2 & 12.7 is based on wat calculation?
xl/100km or km/l  :confused1:


eh let me recall.. my friend say look at the distance travel (a) / the litre of petrol i top up.

If use only the meter which press; normall i get the figure is around 8.8 ~ 9.5
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: rooneytoon2004 on January 05, 2009, 03:41:31 PM
eh let me recall.. my friend say look at the distance travel (a) / the litre of petrol i top up.

If use only the meter which press; normall i get the figure is around 8.8 ~ 9.5

hmm..not bad for latio FC if u can get 12.7km/l
looking forward to get my ride this wk.

so how is ur ride so far? any problems except for this erratic mileage needle?
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: 1stTimer on January 05, 2009, 03:46:57 PM
hmm..not bad for latio FC if u can get 12.7km/l
looking forward to get my ride this wk.

so how is ur ride so far? any problems except for this erratic mileage needle?


12.7km is consider gd ar? my friend told me by right should fall between 13km ~ 14km. anyway guess is because my driving method keep on braking.

other problems ar.. let me think.. yah faced a few problem need advise

1) turning ~ cornering lor.. always felt that the car going to fell off 1 side.. haha
2) When i place the car in PARKING MODE; it always will still move backward abit like it was park on a slope when it was'nt.I ask my friend to sit in the car also felt the same.

Other than that quite ok bahz..
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: rooneytoon2004 on January 05, 2009, 04:10:01 PM
12.7km is consider gd ar? my friend told me by right should fall between 13km ~ 14km. anyway guess is because my driving method keep on braking.

other problems ar.. let me think.. yah faced a few problem need advise

1) turning ~ cornering lor.. always felt that the car going to fell off 1 side.. haha
2) When i place the car in PARKING MODE; it always will still move backward abit like it was park on a slope when it was'nt.I ask my friend to sit in the car also felt the same.

Other than that quite ok bahz..

better than my current ride which is getting 10~11. :D

my suggestin for ur 2 problems...



GET TCM TO LOOK INTO IT! haha :D
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: 1stTimer on January 05, 2009, 04:30:06 PM
better than my current ride which is getting 10~11. :D

my suggestin for ur 2 problems...



GET TCM TO LOOK INTO IT! haha :D

haha no choice.. this friday going for my 1st servicing.. hopefully they will do a good joB~
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Ying on January 05, 2009, 05:27:18 PM

1) turning ~ cornering lor.. always felt that the car going to fell off 1 side.. haha


Ans 1) spend $100+ for a front strut bar enough.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: MadMatty on January 18, 2009, 10:07:21 PM
2) When i place the car in PARKING MODE; it always will still move backward abit like it was park on a slope when it was'nt.I ask my friend to sit in the car also felt the same.

In D mode, when i am not stepping on the brakes, is the car suppose to slip back when on a slope?
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: idiotboi89 on January 18, 2009, 10:36:18 PM
In D mode, when i am not stepping on the brakes, is the car suppose to slip back when on a slope?

if slope steep enough it will roll back
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on January 21, 2009, 12:19:08 AM
Does the milage drops as the car gets older? Cos my car hits 60000+km already. I now i'm getting around 12 km/l.

I do agree with SoL comment as mine also the same yr/mth as yrs but the best FC in local is aroud 14km/l (just hit this recently) but drop again to 12.5km/l again after my tyre change to 195/60/15 but sill monitor the fc for next few tanks to conclude. At 57k km now.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on February 03, 2009, 12:00:22 AM
I do agree with SoL comment as mine also the same yr/mth as yrs but the best FC in local is aroud 14km/l (just hit this recently) but drop again to 12.5km/l again after my tyre change to 195/60/15 but sill monitor the fc for next few tanks to conclude. At 57k km now.

hi all, my FC hit 19km/l on ~100% M'sia NSHW (even top up petrol to full in hw) which is really to my surprise too. Believed the ECU reseting on RPM at autosaver really a good help in FC.

Hi bro fri13th, really can hit >360km by 1/2 tank lei (but very sure not in local), shd take photo next time as evidence :D
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: fri13th on February 03, 2009, 12:18:13 AM
hi all, my FC hit 19km/l on ~100% M'sia NSHW (even top up petrol to full in hw) which is really to my surprise too. Believed the ECU reseting on RPM at autosaver really a good help in FC.

Hi bro fri13th, really can hit >360km by 1/2 tank lei (but very sure not in local), shd take photo next time as evidence :D
well done! for me its been quite a while since i get 360km at half tank ler.....cos petrol cheap nowadays anyhow lut ler :devil2: getting around 16km/liter for my last few tanks but its about time to terrorise u guys ler  :devil2: i am trying hard to get 360 at half tank for this tank will take pic and post :bleh:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: clarence on February 03, 2009, 12:26:40 PM
well done! for me its been quite a while since i get 360km at half tank ler.....cos petrol cheap nowadays anyhow lut ler :devil2: getting around 16km/liter  for my last few tanks but its about time to terrorise u guys ler  :devil2: i am trying hard to get 360 at half tank for this tank will take pic and post :bleh:

Anyhow ram your engine and you still get an impressive 16km/l.  :scared:  :scared:  :scared:

How many rpm do you rev to?

I think your Latio is the one and only in the whole world that can achieve such remarkable mileage!!!  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on February 03, 2009, 11:18:28 PM
well done! for me its been quite a while since i get 360km at half tank ler.....cos petrol cheap nowadays anyhow lut ler :devil2: getting around 16km/liter for my last few tanks but its about time to terrorise u guys ler  :devil2: i am trying hard to get 360 at half tank for this tank will take pic and post :bleh:

hi bro, i think if i any how lut ooh, than my FC in local will be below 10km/l liao.. ;)
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Jazz on February 04, 2009, 08:18:52 AM
hi bro, i think if i any how lut ooh, than my FC in local will be below 10km/l liao.. ;)

Bro,

You are not alone.  ;)
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on February 08, 2009, 12:05:46 AM
Bro,

You are not alone.  ;)

Not very sure why, every time in local, my 1/2 tank will be aroud 250 ~ 270km (max) which will work out to be 12~13km/l niah :confused1:

**p/s: my current tank only hit 250km at 1/2 tank lei :mad:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Jazz on February 08, 2009, 10:05:07 PM
Not very sure why, every time in local, my 1/2 tank will be aroud 250 ~ 270km (max) which will work out to be 12~13km/l niah :confused1:

**p/s: my current tank only hit 250km at 1/2 tank lei :mad:

Same with me as I top up at half tank, so mileage is around 250km using Caltex Gold, but only able to hit 200km when using Caltex Silver.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on February 10, 2009, 11:19:28 PM
Hi bro jazz, my last tank only at 12.4km/l with top up petrol at JB. :(
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Jazz on February 11, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
Hi bro jazz, my last tank only at 12.4km/l with top up petrol at JB. :(

Yo Bro,

12.4km/l to me considered quite good liao coz I seldom on expressway.  ;)
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Toalson on February 11, 2009, 10:56:18 PM
I would agree. When I 1st got my ride was travelling around for CNY and FC was 15+, then come back to my normal routine to and fro work etc. Was down to 12+... If it maintains at 12+ then its not any better than my previous kimchi. Was expecting to maintain at 15+ but guess its not the way since running in peroid and route of travel had became congested lately.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: malmot on February 13, 2009, 08:33:48 PM
just went for my 10k servicing, feedback to them that seeing fuel needle can drop by 2 - 3 marks after driving just driving off fm my MCP 3rd floor to ground or as and when on the road. Quite worry run out of petrol, can reach warning lights and hit the last mark but petrol intake still around 37litres.  Feedback from SE that this is a common problem as sensor is damage in tank and change the sensor. Take car after servicing, pump to full, and notice that from a full tank when needle will start normally above the 1st mark, I normally will travel only about 27km before hitting the 1st line marking, today i hit 67km at the first mark, a first in my 10k journey. Will track if my FC improve with a more accurate needle reading. Normally hitting 480 - 500km for a full tank upon warning light up and plus est 10km before topping up. Maybe that is why bros out there is seeing above 500km for a full tank ?
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: fri13th on February 16, 2009, 10:40:54 PM
A little bit of patience and effort on the pedal makes it easier for my pocket but takes a hell of a long time to accumulate my smiles point to exchange for $30 petrol voucher  :devil2: My best half tank soo far :bleh:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: just on February 17, 2009, 03:02:50 AM
A little bit of patience and effort on the pedal makes it easier for my pocket but takes a hell of a long time to accumulate my smiles point to exchange for $30 petrol voucher  :devil2: My best half tank soo far :bleh:
wow how you drive? 378km only used up half a tank.
mine almost touching the "E" liao then i could get around 378km.
previously used to hit around 420 to 440km for full tank.
last few months only hit <<400km , dont know what happen?
seem like many others here also having the same FC drop issue.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on February 18, 2009, 12:51:29 AM
A little bit of patience and effort on the pedal makes it easier for my pocket but takes a hell of a long time to accumulate my smiles point to exchange for $30 petrol voucher  :devil2: My best half tank soo far :bleh:

Hi fri13th, I'm very sure that able to match yr best FC with 100% patience, at 100% M'sia NSHW, Low rpm, eg. 1.8 to 2.3krpm (Max) and with "same pedal position => do not change of fuel injection" => next time MUST take photo to show all liao :devil2:

**Back to local with JB petrol top up every wkends (inclusive of 50 mins jam at chkpt to and fro) -> average 1/2 tank only at 250 to 270 km niah...
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: fri13th on February 18, 2009, 01:00:52 AM
wow how you drive? 378km only used up half a tank.
mine almost touching the "E" liao then i could get around 378km.
previously used to hit around 420 to 440km for full tank.
last few months only hit <<400km , dont know what happen?
seem like many others here also having the same FC drop issue.


hi bro! u can read my previous posts where i listed all my good FC tips and most if not all bros reported that my tips are helping with their Fc :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: fri13th on February 18, 2009, 01:05:05 AM
Hi fri13th, I'm very sure that able to match yr best FC with 100% patience, at 100% M'sia NSHW, Low rpm, eg. 1.8 to 2.3krpm (Max) and with "same pedal position => do not change of fuel injection" => next time MUST take photo to show all liao :devil2:

**Back to local with JB petrol top up every wkends (inclusive of 50 mins jam at chkpt to and fro) -> average 1/2 tank only at 250 to 270 km niah...
Hey bro FYI the half tank pic i just post is also pumped in jb with jams at causeway b4 returning home :devil2:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Ying on February 18, 2009, 03:48:46 PM
haha, one more tips liao : must pump JB petrol :bleh: which brand?

My 1/2 tank petrolnas covered 170km only over 2 weeks of daily drive.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on February 18, 2009, 11:15:47 PM
Hey bro FYI the half tank pic i just post is also pumped in jb with jams at causeway b4 returning home :devil2:

Wah Lau eh...really Give Up liao -> how to catch up with yr FC lei :bleh:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: SoL on February 18, 2009, 11:57:44 PM
Heheh, managed to hit 700km before low fuel light comes on. Went to pump straight away calculate FC.

18.83km/l! Still far from my target 20km/l... Last time still can hit when driving 95% highway, 5 % city. Now weather so hot have to on AC, plus some city driving liao, so FC drop.

Also confirmed low fuel light comes on when tank has around 8 litres of petrol left.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: idiotboi89 on February 19, 2009, 12:40:17 AM
Heheh, managed to hit 700km before low fuel light comes on. Went to pump straight away calculate FC.

18.83km/l! Still far from my target 20km/l... Last time still can hit when driving 95% highway, 5 % city. Now weather so hot have to on AC, plus some city driving liao, so FC drop.

Also confirmed low fuel light comes on when tank has around 8 litres of petrol left.

O.O tats twice of what i would get....
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: kyorei82 on February 19, 2009, 10:37:56 AM
O.O tats twice of what i would get....

wahz..bro..u sure gt heavy right foot lehz
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: just on February 19, 2009, 06:23:14 PM
Heheh, managed to hit 700km before low fuel light comes on. Went to pump straight away calculate FC.

18.83km/l! Still far from my target 20km/l... Last time still can hit when driving 95% highway, 5 % city. Now weather so hot have to on AC, plus some city driving liao, so FC drop.

Also confirmed low fuel light comes on when tank has around 8 litres of petrol left.
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wow 700km for full tank????? incredible , yr meter accurate or not??? think hot weather also no aircon and fan..smooth ride all the way lor...
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: SoL on February 19, 2009, 10:03:41 PM
Heheh, managed to hit 700km before low fuel light comes on. Went to pump straight away calculate FC.

18.83km/l! Still far from my target 20km/l... Last time still can hit when driving 95% highway, 5 % city. Now weather so hot have to on AC, plus some city driving liao, so FC drop.

Also confirmed low fuel light comes on when tank has around 8 litres of petrol left.
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wow 700km for full tank????? incredible , yr meter accurate or not??? think hot weather also no aircon and fan..smooth ride all the way lor...

Of course accurate. I've gotten 19+km/l before, so this is entirely possible. I try to off aircon whenever possible, but recently damn hot lah!
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on February 20, 2009, 12:00:52 AM
Of course accurate. I've gotten 19+km/l before, so this is entirely possible. I try to off aircon whenever possible, but recently damn hot lah!

I think "just" not really follow closely on the FC topics and that's why got doubt on yr meter reading (which I did too b4). Fri13th and SoL are a few with FC > 18km/l (and constantly hit this records) :thumbsup: and also share quite a number of Great tips on FC. Thanks
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: SoL on February 20, 2009, 01:12:31 AM
Hey LatioR, you're welcome! I wrote a simple guide somewhere before but now dunno lost till which page liao lol.

Hope you get better FC too!  ;D
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: just on February 20, 2009, 06:54:10 AM
I think "just" not really follow closely on the FC topics and that's why got doubt on yr meter reading (which I did too b4). Fri13th and SoL are a few with FC > 18km/l (and constantly hit this records) :thumbsup: and also share quite a number of Great tips on FC. Thanks
Ya, you are right, I just log in whenever I'm free, din read all the history posts.
To me they are very amazing to achieve double of what I or most of us hitting.
This also show how inefficent the FC of an engine - a lot(about half) of fuel is wastage due to our bad handling of the car.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: SoL on February 20, 2009, 09:19:27 AM
Ya, you are right, I just log in whenever I'm free, din read all the history posts.
To me they are very amazing to achieve double of what I or most of us hitting.
This also show how inefficent the FC of an engine - a lot(about half) of fuel is wastage due to our bad handling of the car.

Haha I wouldn't say bad handling, just that its a different style of driving. I used to get ~14km/l  last time, and i would get very happy when I hit 15km/l. That was the days of aircon and 120km/h and 3k rpm.

Now I realised I'm doing fine even with 80km/h and 2k rpm, and sometimes even when I tried to drive more aggressively to see how low FC I would get, I'll always heart-pain. I guess its a habit already!

Well its one habit I'm not going to get rid off anytime soon! ;)
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Ying on February 20, 2009, 09:51:40 AM
I realised Latio can get >17km/l but have to drive at certain pattern. If it is safe to drive a little faster, I will buy some time with that little amount of petrol. I got 16km/l+ before driving at 90~ 100km/h on highway once, and that's it.

FC is depend on 1) how keen you want to set record FC
                       2) how much you value the time taken over the petrol used.

I get single digit FC in SG but its ok, I am happy with what I have. My one tank last one month, what else can I ask for  :smile: My FC will cross 10km/l if I have more green lights on the road.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on February 26, 2009, 10:58:16 PM
Hey LatioR, you're welcome! I wrote a simple guide somewhere before but now dunno lost till which page liao lol.

Hope you get better FC too!  ;D

Hi Bro SoL, indeed, have benefited a lot from those tips shared by u, fri13th and other high achiever. Thanks :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on February 26, 2009, 11:01:16 PM
I realised Latio can get >17km/l but have to drive at certain pattern. If it is safe to drive a little faster, I will buy some time with that little amount of petrol. I got 16km/l+ before driving at 90~ 100km/h on highway once, and that's it.

FC is depend on 1) how keen you want to set record FC
                       2) how much you value the time taken over the petrol used.

I get single digit FC in SG but its ok, I am happy with what I have. My one tank last one month, what else can I ask for  :smile: My FC will cross 10km/l if I have more green lights on the road.

Hi Ying, mine can achieved better FC with 90~100km/h..refer to the link below for details. Thanks.




http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=7948.msg147593#msg147593
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Ying on February 27, 2009, 01:32:57 PM
Hi Ying, mine can achieved better FC with 90~100km/h..refer to the link below for details. Thanks.




http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=7948.msg147593#msg147593

I also can get +16km/L drive around 90kmh SG to Melaka non stop. However in daily city driving. frequent start stop means more petrol needed to overcome car inertia to make it start moving, so FC sure bad even I drive at 90kmh. When the car is moving, minimum petrol is needed to maintain constant speed.

Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on February 28, 2009, 12:34:44 PM
Hi bro Ying, i think u hv missed out the details, actually can hit > 19km/l (if not be cos of Melacca city drive). My better FC only come in after the RPM tuning (it's referring to engine speed) done by autosaver (reduce from 736rpm to 690+rpm).
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: Latiorarri on March 01, 2009, 11:21:34 AM
Hi bro Ying, i think u hv missed out the details, actually can hit > 19km/l (if not be cos of Melacca city drive). My better FC only come in after the RPM tuning (it's referring to engine speed) done by autosaver (reduce from 736rpm to 690+rpm).

Wah... you can tell your RPM is at 736RPM !!???
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: thwe on March 01, 2009, 01:21:08 PM
how to not let the needle not drop so fast?

how to pump till rim for latio, aka the oil stablise at rim? after >10 times 0f going to rim, the petrol still goes down.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: SoL on March 01, 2009, 03:19:24 PM
how to not let the needle not drop so fast?

how to pump till rim for latio, aka the oil stablise at rim? after >10 times 0f going to rim, the petrol still goes down.

Hehe means you haven't pump till full la! Try to go slowly bah. But I heard pumping to full is not good, will damage the fuel sensor.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on March 01, 2009, 10:35:04 PM
Wah... you can tell your RPM is at 736RPM !!???

Hi, it's done by autosaver, handheld diagnosis device (i think, not sure what's a correct name for that). I'm referring to the print out copy for this RPM details.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on March 01, 2009, 10:43:03 PM
Hehe means you haven't pump till full la! Try to go slowly bah. But I heard pumping to full is not good, will damage the fuel sensor.

Hi SoL, for me, it's doesn't matter anymore as I usually pump to the rim and believed the sensor already spoil liao :devil2:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: rooneytoon2004 on March 01, 2009, 10:58:13 PM
Hi bro Ying, i think u hv missed out the details, actually can hit > 19km/l (if not be cos of Melacca city drive). My better FC only come in after the RPM tuning (it's referring to engine speed) done by autosaver (reduce from 736rpm to 690+rpm).

hi bro,

Wat is your FC before and aft tuning?
btw,how much did u did for your tuning?
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on March 02, 2009, 11:33:23 PM
In local, not much diff (still ard 12 ~14km/l). As in NSHW, it has improved from 16km/l+ to 18 ~19km/l+ now (with the sacrifice of speed, eg. from 110~120km/h to 90~100km/h). The tuning is FOC together with the service package.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: thwe on March 04, 2009, 12:42:51 AM
Hi SoL, for me, it's doesn't matter anymore as I usually pump to the rim and believed the sensor already spoil liao :devil2:
how to pump to rim? petrol keeps on dropping though i pump to rim. it takes like another 20++ times to pump to rim but petrol still flow in slowly.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on March 06, 2009, 07:37:02 AM
Maybe u are pumping too slow and that's why not able to pump to rim :bleh:..Usually for me, after it about reaching the rim, will need to top up another 1L+ and then will reach close to rim, afterwhich, will neeed to top up 5 times+ to reach the rim (slowly).

**p/s: do check if there is any petrol leak out to the floor which caused u not able to top up to rim, just a jokes :devil2:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: thwe on March 07, 2009, 01:17:37 AM
no possible got leak. else jialat liao. donr believe one day u come pump for me...
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: fri13th on March 08, 2009, 11:39:25 AM
Sorrie guys....i did it again :devil2:
my best quarter tank :bleh:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: SoL on March 08, 2009, 12:28:23 PM
Wow, very nice! How much you got for a full tank?

I think my petrol sensor is spoilt lol. I get 120km at quarter tank, but 650km for my last tank when low fuel light just came on.
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: fri13th on March 08, 2009, 01:40:55 PM
Wow, very nice! How much you got for a full tank?

I think my petrol sensor is spoilt lol. I get 120km at quarter tank, but 650km for my last tank when low fuel light just came on.
Normally i get around 660km but for this tank i have to let u guys know only after i finish it but i think its going to be more cos normally i get only 200km at quater tank   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: SoL on March 08, 2009, 02:10:27 PM
Yah, recently I've been driving with AC more often, since it so much hotter! Plus I ran into a couple of jams the last tank! =(
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: idiotboi89 on March 08, 2009, 03:10:34 PM
mine's like 400 + abit den light up liaoz... t.t
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: MadMatty on March 08, 2009, 06:06:16 PM
Sorrie guys....i did it again :devil2:
my best quarter tank :bleh:

U sure you driving a Latio? :bleh: :bleh:

I am clocking just about the same mileage as you but normally hit about 90km to the 3/4 mark... :( :(
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on March 09, 2009, 01:22:31 AM
Wow, very nice! How much you got for a full tank?

I think my petrol sensor is spoilt lol. I get 120km at quarter tank, but 650km for my last tank when low fuel light just came on.

Hi SoL, I think bro fri13th petrol sensor also spoilt liao... :devil2:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: fri13th on March 09, 2009, 02:26:33 AM
Hi SoL, I think bro fri13th petrol sensor also spoilt liao... :devil2:
Maybe my latio is a lemon? :bleh:  :devil2:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on March 11, 2009, 12:17:48 AM


1) % highway/city driving? 70/30
2) Brand and RON petrol used? mobil 5000
3) Tyre Pressure? Front 270, Back 250
4) Driving with air con turned on or off? Air con on 100% set temp at 23-24
5) Drive mostly during the day or at night? 50/50
6) Brand of engine oil used? amsoil 5-30w
7) Mileage? going 10k
8) How many people are usually in the car or just yourself? 3-4ppl
9) Any modifications done to your car? ez-stab and spark bridge
10) Do you use any after market additives? never before.


i think we all have to drive smart lor....example like dun fight with gravity when going up slope and floor ur pedal....down slope time press more and to pick up speed faster....look further in front to anticipate the traffic lights changes the lesser u use ur brakes the better ur fc....and also leave home 15 mins earlier everyday so we dun have to rush and ram our engine unnecessary and can enjoy a safe and pleasant drive :thumbsup:


Hi bro fri13th, any changes to above info shared by u b4 to achieve this new height? Btw, just curious if u r on normal working hr or shift work? Thanks to share
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: fri13th on March 11, 2009, 10:02:45 PM


Hi bro fri13th, any changes to above info shared by u b4 to achieve this new height? Btw, just curious if u r on normal working hr or shift work? Thanks to share
I think still the same and nothing really change on my driving habit....am on normal working hours and mine is opc and maybe becos of this i do experience less jam and thus better fc :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: just on March 12, 2009, 07:12:00 AM
wow Envy.....will never dream that I will hit or close to that kind of mileage..
mine is getting worst..dont know now a day the shell's petrol got add water in it or not.....use up so fast like drinking water..
Title: Re: Mileage Needle dropping too fast
Post by: LatioR on March 16, 2009, 11:44:54 PM
I think still the same and nothing really change on my driving habit....am on normal working hours and mine is opc and maybe becos of this i do experience less jam and thus better fc :thumbsup:

Hi bro fri13th, thanks for the info sharing and seem like need to change to opc to hv better FC then :bleh: Btw, my last FC in local is at ard 13.5+km/l and NSHW @ 18.91km/l (eg. clocked 377.1km at 1/2 tank @ 95% HW). I'm on normal shift and normally get stuck on SLE towards CTE b4 coming out to AMK area.