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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: joyrob on December 27, 2008, 09:54:04 AM
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hi.. due to the tendency of our ride being lowered when 3 full adults at the backseats, have thought of installing the spring stiffener at the rear suspension springs.. cost about $85 or $95, depending on size.. rubber material, easily transferable..
anyone has tried it b4 ? does it help much ?
rgds
yong ping
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hi.. due to the tendency of our ride being lowered when 3 full adults at the backseats, have thought of installing the spring stiffener at the rear suspension springs.. cost about $85 or $95, depending on size.. rubber material, easily transferable..
anyone has tried it b4 ? does it help much ?
rgds
yong ping
I'm using it now...to me the helps alot when comes to humps and when u ferrying ppl. I installed front n rear, get those silicone type not those rubber kind.
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so where to get those silicon types ? any shops to recommend ? price ?
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I just got mine done last week. Helps alot yah... especially now that i'm carry quite a fair bit of stuff in the boot plus car seat plus ...... I did for the rear only. $65 for one pair from Autobacs.
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so where to get those silicon types ? any shops to recommend ? price ?
Got mine in China, ard SGD100.00 for 4 pieces.
Mine is the clear silicone type, suppose to be the 5th generation. Red colour type is the 4th generation.
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I just got mine done last week. Helps alot yah... especially now that i'm carry quite a fair bit of stuff in the boot plus car seat plus ...... I did for the rear only. $65 for one pair from Autobacs.
Include installation at Autobacs ?
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I just got mine done last week. Helps alot yah... especially now that i'm carry quite a fair bit of stuff in the boot plus car seat plus ...... I did for the rear only. $65 for one pair from Autobacs.
What color is yours? I did mine at autobac too about a year ago. It was orange, but didn't help much. My tow bar and exhaust till hits the kerb.
As for bumps, bouncing did reduce a little.
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so how do i get the silicon ones if there is available ? anyone any lobang ?? 4 pcs, meaning one for each wheel side ?
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I just got mine done last week. Helps alot yah... especially now that i'm carry quite a fair bit of stuff in the boot plus car seat plus ...... I did for the rear only. $65 for one pair from Autobacs.
I inquired abt that also last week at Autobacs (Bukit Batok). Was told that the lifespan is up to 3 years.
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What color is yours? I did mine at autobac too about a year ago. It was orange, but didn't help much. My tow bar and exhaust till hits the kerb.
As for bumps, bouncing did reduce a little.
mine is transparent one..
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mine is transparent one..
Different from min, guess mine is the lousy type. Thanks.
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I just got mine done last week. Helps alot yah... especially now that i'm carry quite a fair bit of stuff in the boot plus car seat plus ...... I did for the rear only. $65 for one pair from Autobacs.
saw the transparent pair at $69 at Autobac Ubi last week, the box label "2nd generation", want to buy but know what is the correct size for the front and rear. Size come with AA, A, B ,C,D, which one sould I buy leh?
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saw the transparent pair at $69 at Autobac Ubi last week, the box label "2nd generation", want to buy but know what is the correct size for the front and rear. Size come with AA, A, B ,C,D, which one sould I buy leh?
I am using size C for my latio.
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Any side effect by installing this spring stiffeners? Thinking of installing too. By installing this, meaning our suspension is harden hence reducing spring effect (not that bouncy)?
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i would suppose so.. but some bros here mention that the effect is not that big. at most 5mm
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saw the transparent pair at $69 at Autobac Ubi last week, the box label "2nd generation", want to buy but know what is the correct size for the front and rear. Size come with AA, A, B ,C,D, which one sould I buy leh?
I also donno what size.. :bleh: they will check and inform you so quite safe.. Look for Thomas. Experience guy and good service. After installing the stifferner and horn, he checked all my four wheels (extracted X2 metal bits from 2 wheels) checked for leaks, top up N2. Wahh... so good.
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Include installation at Autobacs ?
Installation cost is 20 dollars. If i remembered correctly.. need to go find the receipt.
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Does it affect our warranty with TCM?
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nahh.. i don't think so.. this is a 'drop in' mod which can be taken out easily... so it shouldn't affect the warranty. I just sent the car back to change the steering wheel coupling 23th Dec. They din say anything about the stiffeners.
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nahh.. i don't think so.. this is a 'drop in' mod which can be taken out easily... so it shouldn't affect the warranty. I just sent the car back to change the steering wheel coupling 23th Dec. They din say anything about the stiffeners.
thx latiorarri. How do you feel after installing that stiffener? I'm having steering wheel coupling problem as well, will send in to TCM soon.
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Just done it today at auobacs Ubi for $65 + $10 labour. They check my car and say rear use size B (35mm) but they dont have any size that fit latio front springs. Good service.
Example: http://www.mudah.my/vi/1471785.htm?ca=12_s
same box but my is clear type, Listed S$95 for size B but discount price $65. Still have ~6 sets
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So how is it after installation? Really don't hit kerb anymore?
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thx latiorarri. How do you feel after installing that stiffener? I'm having steering wheel coupling problem as well, will send in to TCM soon.
Much better liao.. u know the feeling if u go over a hump and the backside dives like nobody's business??? Well that feeling is less now.. by eye power, the car's backside sits higher when i look at the wheel and wheel arch. But i guess the best gauge is when i reverse park my tow hook dun hit the kerb any more @ full load. :yehyeh: I carry my kids stroller, office stuff, notebook, car wash stuff in the boot; rear seat, got one britax super heavy child seat, wife and sister sit in the rear, mum and me in front that's the normal load usually now i my tow hook can clear the kerb. :thumbsup:.. hopefully the stiffeners can tahan.. :unsure:
Hey remember to remind TCM to recentre your steering wheel after they change your coupling.. mine is abit off now. Will need to bring back to recentering.
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Much better liao.. u know the feeling if u go over a hump and the backside dives like nobody's business??? Well that feeling is less now.. by eye power, the car's backside sits higher when i look at the wheel and wheel arch. But i guess the best gauge is when i reverse park my tow hook dun hit the kerb any more @ full load. :yehyeh: I carry my kids stroller, office stuff, notebook, car wash stuff in the boot; rear seat, got one britax super heavy child seat, wife and sister sit in the rear, mum and me in front that's the normal load usually now i my tow hook can clear the kerb. :thumbsup:.. hopefully the stiffeners can tahan.. :unsure:
Hey remember to remind TCM to recentre your steering wheel after they change your coupling.. mine is abit off now. Will need to bring back to recentering.
thx latiorarri, your info. is very helpful.
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I inquired abt that also last week at Autobacs (Bukit Batok). Was told that the lifespan is up to 3 years.
How do we know when is time to change?
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Just done it today at auobacs Ubi for $65 + $10 labour. They check my car and say rear use size B (35mm) but they dont have any size that fit latio front springs. Good service.
Example: http://www.mudah.my/vi/1471785.htm?ca=12_s
same box but my is clear type, Listed S$95 for size B but discount price $65. Still have ~6 sets
Hi Ying,
Seem like a good offer. How the crowd now ?
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Just done it today at auobacs Ubi for $65 + $10 labour. They check my car and say rear use size B (35mm) but they dont have any size that fit latio front springs. Good service.
Example: http://www.mudah.my/vi/1471785.htm?ca=12_s
same box but my is clear type, Listed S$95 for size B but discount price $65. Still have ~6 sets
Hi, is there any condition to get the discount price at $65 instead of the listed price of $95? Thanks.
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Hi Jazz, Humble car,
Went to UBI branch on 2 Jan, 7.30pm (close at 8pm). ~ 15 cars in the carpark, not much people. Their staff went down to carpark to check the spring, told me sive B. I go get one and paid at 7.50pm. They still do installation for me without rushing, let me check after install then drive me down to carpark, too bad not much "road test" for such a short distance but :thumbsup:
Diff size, red or clear is diff list price but all sell at same discount price of $65. So bigger size actually have more saving :thumbsup: NO condition leh, I just buy that thing only.
3 Jan drive to Melaka again :thumbsup: it is better now to drive past those speed straps at 80kmh. I am looking for similar product for the front, let me know if you have lobang.
mod: sorry for Typo. Should be Size B for rear.
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Much better liao.. u know the feeling if u go over a hump and the backside dives like nobody's business??? Well that feeling is less now.. by eye power, the car's backside sits higher when i look at the wheel and wheel arch. But i guess the best gauge is when i reverse park my tow hook dun hit the kerb any more @ full load. :yehyeh: I carry my kids stroller, office stuff, notebook, car wash stuff in the boot; rear seat, got one britax super heavy child seat, wife and sister sit in the rear, mum and me in front that's the normal load usually now i my tow hook can clear the kerb. :thumbsup:.. hopefully the stiffeners can tahan.. :unsure:
Hey remember to remind TCM to recentre your steering wheel after they change your coupling.. mine is abit off now. Will need to bring back to recentering.
Hello Latiorarri
You mentioned that "by eye power, the car's backside sits higher when i look at the wheel and wheel arch. " Will that make our ride be "taller"?
May I ask what's the experience like when cornering? I mean in terms of the high CG.
Thanks
Alan
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Hi Jazz, Humble car,
Went to UBI branch on 2 Jan, 7.30pm (close at 8pm). ~ 15 cars in the carpark, not much people. Their staff went down to carpark to check the spring, told me sive C. I go get one and paid at 7.50pm. They still do installation for me without rushing, let me check after install then drive me down to carpark, too bad not much "road test" for such a short distance but :thumbsup:
Diff size, red or clear is diff list price but all sell at same discount price of $65. So bigger size actually have more saving :thumbsup: NO condition leh, I just buy that thing only.
3 Jan drive to Melaka again :thumbsup: it is better now to drive past those speed straps at 80kmh. I am looking for similar product for the front, let me know if you have lobang.
Morning Ying,
Thanks, seem like it another good to have gadget for our Latio. :smile:
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Hi Jazz, Humble car,
Went to UBI branch on 2 Jan, 7.30pm (close at 8pm). ~ 15 cars in the carpark, not much people. Their staff went down to carpark to check the spring, told me sive B. I go get one and paid at 7.50pm. They still do installation for me without rushing, let me check after install then drive me down to carpark, too bad not much "road test" for such a short distance but :thumbsup:
Diff size, red or clear is diff list price but all sell at same discount price of $65. So bigger size actually have more saving :thumbsup: NO condition leh, I just buy that thing only.
3 Jan drive to Melaka again :thumbsup: it is better now to drive past those speed straps at 80kmh. I am looking for similar product for the front, let me know if you have lobang.
mod: sorry for Typo. Should be Size B for rear.
Hi Ying, the one you brought is rubber or silicon?
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I got the silicon type. Both rubber and silicon are stack at same place, same discount price. You can open the box to check if it is silicon (clear ) or rubber (red).
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I got the silicon type. Both rubber and silicon are stack at same place, same discount price. You can open the box to check if it is silicon (clear ) or rubber (red).
Hi Ying,
In your opinion, which one is a better buy ?
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gho5tss said the silicon type, so I got the silicon type.
btw, the list price for silicon is higher than the rubber type. If you want to buy from Ubi branch better quick lor, supply running low.
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I got the silicon type. Both rubber and silicon are stack at same place, same discount price. You can open the box to check if it is silicon (clear ) or rubber (red).
good stuff, will be getting after my 5K service.
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Hello Latiorarri
You mentioned that "by eye power, the car's backside sits higher when i look at the wheel and wheel arch. " Will that make our ride be "taller"?
May I ask what's the experience like when cornering? I mean in terms of the high CG.
Thanks
Alan
The backside is slightly higher loh.. that's why never hit kerb any more :yehyeh: but it's not that high to affect cornering. Just gives you that few more cm clearance so tat dun hit my tow hook. ;)
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hi folks, in case you're wondering how the stiffener looks like and where it's installed.
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hi folks, in case you're wondering how the stiffener looks like and where it's installed.
wow, looks like covered the spring, I always thought is on top of the spring. So how they installed? Jacked up ur car?
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.. :unsure:
Hey remember to remind TCM to recentre your steering wheel after they change your coupling.. mine is abit off now. Will need to bring back to recentering.
Do you mean that installing the spring stiffeners would need to change the couplings? Does the price includes the couplings ? How much did TCM charge you for the recentering job ?
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wow, looks like covered the spring, I always thought is on top of the spring. So how they installed? Jacked up ur car?
Jacked up the car to extend the spring, Cut a bit on both end of the stiffeners, spray WD40 on the groove, plug it to the spring. Done.
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Just done it today at auobacs Ubi for $65 + $10 labour. They check my car and say rear use size B (35mm) but they dont have any size that fit latio front springs. Good service.
Example: http://www.mudah.my/vi/1471785.htm?ca=12_s
same box but my is clear type, Listed S$95 for size B but discount price $65. Still have ~6 sets
Hello Ying,
How come your is size B. When I installed in Oct'08, they use size C. I also installed at Autobac at Ubi but at $95 :(
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I also dun know :confused1: at first I took a set of C size to counter, then the guy check my rear spring and said size B which is wider and higher. It fit in well and feel good leh.
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Do you mean that installing the spring stiffeners would need to change the couplings? Does the price includes the couplings ? How much did TCM charge you for the recentering job ?
No no..the coupling is a seperate issue... I installed the stiffeners @ autobacs then brought the car back to TCM to renew the steering wheel coupling... differenet thing ;)
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Wah, size B and C, which one is correct size?
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I was at Autobacs Ubi to install my strut bar yesterday. Was chatting with this guy - Ah Yuan - regarding the stiffeners as I am also considering installing after reading the posting in the forum. This was what he told me...
Size B is "bigger" than C apparently. B will fit just nice on the springs after pushing up a little, while C fits easily without jacking the springs. As a result, B in a way stiffens the springs more than C. Cos for you to experience the effect, the springs will have to be compressed if you install Size C. Size B allows little movement. So if you install size B, your ride in general will be bumpier. For size C, it will only cushion the impact when u go over humps.
In the end i did not install. Cos from Ah Yuan, since i seldom carry full load, no CNG tank installed, and I'm not so comfy with bumpier ride (in exchange for more stability), he advised me to delay until i actually experienced the bumper hitting. :unsure:
That's some sharing for the bros and sis here regarding the stiffeners... ::)
btw size C is out of stock. only size b left. according to ah yuan, new stocks will only come in in Feb...
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oic... So size B for mostly light load driving and size C for mostly loaded driving as it need more compression to feel the effect? Size B is fine with me now, next time when it wear out then try sice C lah. Btw how much is the alutec strut bar cost?
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oic... So size B for mostly light load driving and size C for mostly loaded driving as it need more compression to feel the effect? Size B is fine with me now, next time when it wear out then try sice C lah. Btw how much is the alutec strut bar cost?
Ying, how bumpy is the ride with size b stiffeners? Any difference? I like the idea of stability, but not the bumps... :(
My strut bar cost slightly less than $180 plus installation. Cos Autobacs having a 20% off Alutec struct bar. So the price is $150+. Installation is $20. I went there last Sat, tok to the salesperson. So I tink he bought in 1 bar. He din call me but i called autobac yest. So took the one and only one for latio and now it is in my car... :yehyeh:
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no wonder I did not see any sturt bar for latio there last time.
Using size B, not too bumpy with wife and one kid at the back, noise when driving over the speed strap reduced. I think my rear spring it too soft for me, so Size B just nice for my case.
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I was at Autobacs Ubi to install my strut bar yesterday. Was chatting with this guy - Ah Yuan - regarding the stiffeners as I am also considering installing after reading the posting in the forum. This was what he told me...
Size B is "bigger" than C apparently. B will fit just nice on the springs after pushing up a little, while C fits easily without jacking the springs. As a result, B in a way stiffens the springs more than C. Cos for you to experience the effect, the springs will have to be compressed if you install Size C. Size B allows little movement. So if you install size B, your ride in general will be bumpier. For size C, it will only cushion the impact when u go over humps.
In the end i did not install. Cos from Ah Yuan, since i seldom carry full load, no CNG tank installed, and I'm not so comfy with bumpier ride (in exchange for more stability), he advised me to delay until i actually experienced the bumper hitting. :unsure:
That's some sharing for the bros and sis here regarding the stiffeners... ::)
btw size C is out of stock. only size b left. according to ah yuan, new stocks will only come in in Feb...
No wonder mine is size C as I have a CNG tank at the back of the boot. ;D
Yup, going over speed traps and expansion strips (AYE) is much dampened
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Oh, may be that's why he want to check at the spring first before telling me which size to get.
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Oh, may be that's why he want to check at the spring first before telling me which size to get.
So they will check every cars b4 telling you the correct size, NOT car model specified right?
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Don't know about other buyer. I told them it is for nissan latio they stil send a technician down to check.
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I just got the stiffeners installed. Mine was size A for both front and back!! I took the size B for the rear and the mechanic checked. Came out and told me that size B is too small, so need to buy size A. I tink Autobac will check for you if you tell them that you are not very sure of the size.
So far I find the car more stable while driving. Together with the strut bar, the steering seems to be more responsive. Earlier without the stiffeners, the steering feels bit hard to steer.
However when going through the humps and speed regulating strips, can feel the stiffness, so the bounce is greater. Driving wise, some how find that my ride accelerate smoother and faster, and it is more stable driving the car.
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few mths ago went jb with my fren advante, he install the a set of 4 pcs spring stiffeners cost rm200 but the material is rubber.
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I just got the stiffeners installed. Mine was size A for both front and back!! I took the size B for the rear and the mechanic checked. Came out and told me that size B is too small, so need to buy size A. I tink Autobac will check for you if you tell them that you are not very sure of the size.
So far I find the car more stable while driving. Together with the strut bar, the steering seems to be more responsive. Earlier without the stiffeners, the steering feels bit hard to steer.
However when going through the humps and speed regulating strips, can feel the stiffness, so the bounce is greater. Driving wise, some how find that my ride accelerate smoother and faster, and it is more stable driving the car.
Size A? at autobac Ubi? I want to install it on front spring if possible. Can't be 2005 model spring is so different from 08 model.
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Size A? at autobac Ubi? I want to install it on front spring if possible. Can't be 2005 model spring is so different from 08 model.
yup I was surprised also... I'm nt sure of the older latios, but my FL latio is higher. Its feel like driving those SUVs. So for some drivers, their legs wont be touching the road if they hang their legs out of the door...
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yup I was surprised also... I'm nt sure of the older latios, but my FL latio is higher. Its feel like driving those SUVs. So for some drivers, their legs wont be touching the road if they hang their legs out of the door...
Do you mean legs can't touch the road for all seats or only from the driver seat, which is height adjustable?
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Do you mean legs can't touch the road for all seats or only from the driver seat, which is height adjustable?
At least from the driver's seat. My car mah, i rarely will end up as the passenger.
Few days ago i was looking at the height of the windows. There was a non-FL Latio sport parking, butt to butt with mine. found the height is higher.. .dun noe if it is really the case... i'm finding the opportunity to compare the sedans of 2 versions... :blink:
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Yesterday went to Ubi TCM to check my wheel alignment, so while highliting, I asked the SE about the spring stifferner, he advise me against as this will compromise ride comfort plus shorten the lifespan of the suspension, worst still is, it ,may void the warranty by Nissan, I like sian 1/2.
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Yesterday went to Ubi TCM to check my wheel alignment, so while highliting, I asked the SE about the spring stifferner, he advise me against as this will compromise ride comfort plus shorten the lifespan of the suspension, worst still is, it ,may void the warranty by Nissan, I like sian 1/2.
when ask tcm anythings they sure say cant do this cant do that will void warranty but this is normal to all car agents. So maybe can fix 1st when any problem occur just go outside workshop undo 1st then go back tcm for checking.
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when ask tcm anythings they sure say cant do this cant do that will void warranty but this is normal to all car agents. So maybe can fix 1st when any problem occur just go outside workshop undo 1st then go back tcm for checking.
Yep, you are right. ;)
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Yesterday went to Ubi TCM to check my wheel alignment, so while highliting, I asked the SE about the spring stifferner, he advise me against as this will compromise ride comfort plus shorten the lifespan of the suspension, worst still is, it ,may void the warranty by Nissan, I like sian 1/2.
Hmm i ask the same qn to the SE at TCM Ubi. He never mention about the voiding of warranty. Why shld warranty be void when u just add pieces of rubber/silicon?? The one i spoke to simply tell me that it is not needed for the Latio as the backside is already high so not likely will experience hitting the undercarriage. It is the Slyphy that requires the stiffeners.
He also said that so many people complain about this problem. It is a standard feature of japanese car according to him. because japanese go for ride comfort hence the cars are lower and more springy.
Then the Autobac Ubi mechanic told me that the stiffeners are good as it protects the suspension from damage due to excessive crossing of humps. So between ride comfort, and height of backside and suspension protection, one has to choose either and not both.
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yup
How the hell the SE say this will void the warranty, it like a dampener for your suspensions. It suppose to help you n yr car to cushion during humps n uneven when u on the road.
:out: SE :out:
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that's right. just look at the damper as part of the spring.
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that's right. just look at the damper as part of the spring.
You are right my neighbor :thumbsup:
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Hmm i ask the same qn to the SE at TCM Ubi. He never mention about the voiding of warranty. Why shld warranty be void when u just add pieces of rubber/silicon?? The one i spoke to simply tell me that it is not needed for the Latio as the backside is already high so not likely will experience hitting the undercarriage. It is the Slyphy that requires the stiffeners.
He also said that so many people complain about this problem. It is a standard feature of japanese car according to him. because japanese go for ride comfort hence the cars are lower and more springy.
Then the Autobac Ubi mechanic told me that the stiffeners are good as it protects the suspension from damage due to excessive crossing of humps. So between ride comfort, and height of backside and suspension protection, one has to choose either and not both.
The SE just mentioned it may void the warranty by the manufacturer and not by TCM. Although our Latio seem high, but the suspension is too soft, you never encounter kena your tow hook or maybe scratch your tip of your exhaust during reverse parking before when you ferry passengers behind.
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Erm.. i rarely ferry people around... and so far lucky for me, never kena the tow hook or exhaust (i tink)...
So thats y i install the stiffeners already... all four wheels! dun wan these to happen at all
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Erm.. i rarely ferry people around... and so far lucky for me, never kena the tow hook or exhaust (i tink)...
So thats y i install the stiffeners already... all four wheels! dun wan these to happen at all
:thumbsup: Good .... at least you will not feel the pain.
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went to Autobacs today and saw only size B left. Is it size A or size B anyway?
:blink:
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went to Autobacs today and saw only size B left. Is it size A or size B anyway?
:blink:
Which branch? Thinking of going tomorrow.
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went to Autobacs today and saw only size B left. Is it size A or size B anyway?
:blink:
Just tell them that you are unsure and ask them to check for you. If you trace back my posts, mine's size A whereas there are cases where size B and even C were sold to Lations.
Think the stores going to replenish in Feb. Tats wat the autobacs ubi pple say when i go and install beginning of the month. took all the size As away.