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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: kspchew on January 07, 2009, 12:51:10 PM
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Autosavers having promotions for 2 yrs servicing,
Package consists of:
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Great value for money! :thumbsup:
Cheaper than Tan Chong's Nissan Peventive Maintenance Program and also includes 4 X 3M Value Polishing Package & 1 3M ISC Package not found in Tan Chong's package.
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Looks good but what is ISC?
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Hi all
I still prefer to stick to TCM.
My 20cents.
Regards.
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does this include the change of timing belts and brake pads etc.....??? which is found in TCM 40k package??
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for my 90k servicing .. I have switch to Autosaver to cut cost.
So far so good I think.... Didnt see tons of diffference in servicing quality but save $$$.
Up till 80K .. all my servicing done at TC Autoclinic (with some in BT and TP) but everytime go there.. the price increased...
So for minor 90k servicing I decided to try Autosaver. For 100K .. I will go there too since I also brought my own motor oil (Amsoil now previously Mobil 1 Gold Bottle)
All these I think I save 20% cost as compare to TC. TC own oil cost more than what I buy other side. 100+ vs 60 for 4 quart.
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I am going for my 20k servicing, and AS vs TCM, which one is recommended?
Read a few posts but seems like different bros saying different things. any sound advice?
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Is Autosaver accredited by TC or not. The problem with sending your vehicle to third party for servicing is the threat by TC to void your warranty or contest your warranty claims. Once the warranty is over, I won't hesistate to go outside for servicing as I can't see how much more fantastic TC is against some of the better third party out there.
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The problem with sending your vehicle to third party for servicing is the threat by TC to void your warranty or contest your warranty claims. Once the warranty is over, I won't hesistate to go outside for servicing as I can't see how much more fantastic TC is against some of the better third party out there.
i agree totally... This is the only reason why i send my car to TCM for service - at least until my car's warranty period is over.
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I am going for my 20k servicing, and AS vs TCM, which one is recommended?
Read a few posts but seems like different bros saying different things. any sound advice?
If u are under the NPMP (3 std + 4 free servicing)>> then 20K servicing shld be still under TCM??
if its free. might as well go TCM..
So far, when i accompany my friend to AS.. the mechanics there LOOK more professional than TCM
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Looks good but what is ISC?
Sorry, not sure what is that?
I will be paying them a visit to collect my discount card (Free application) tomorrow, so will ask them for more details
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Is Autosaver accredited by TC or not. The problem with sending your vehicle to third party for servicing is the threat by TC to void your warranty or contest your warranty claims. Once the warranty is over, I won't hesistate to go outside for servicing as I can't see how much more fantastic TC is against some of the better third party out there.
I do not think any workshop are accredited at all. Moreover.. there isnt any hard and fast rule stating that we must die die go back to TCM for servicing when under warranty. There are many I know also go outside... but still can claims for the warranty if there is issue.
The void of warranty is grey... But truly believe so long you did any fanciful thing in the engine (super charger/open pod and etc) and remain stock. Whether go non-TCM workshop should be fine. And .. we can still demand for the warranty.. it is all boil down to how fierce are you to demand that....
Customer always right ... :P
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Guys, found out ISC is for throttle body cleaning@ 40k km.
Also, there will be no rebates for oil filter and must use AS EO.
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let's assume no NPMP. don't really like the idea of paying upfront before getting the service.
some said even mileage like 20k, 40k, 60k which are major servicing shd go back TCM for peace of mind
and odd mileage like 30k,50k,70k can go outside like AS to save some moola.
from what I gathered, 20k go AS since it's cheaper by 30%.
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i agree totally... This is the only reason why i send my car to TCM for service - at least until my car's warranty period is over.
hi zippy & htfreak,
iagree w u guys too.
that is part of the reasons that i save for my 4th and 5th service to service my car outside.
4th - @ KL
5th - @ Autosaver
But both of the above, i don't feel satisfied enough. And, I also have the feeling that I might be rejected by TCM if I go there to service my car or to ask them to check my car if any little minor issues occurred. e.g. Rattling noise, battery issue, aircon and so on... If we dont service @ TCM, do you dare to go there to ask them to check for you at FOC? And, will TCM offer us at FOC? Even though if we service @ Autosaver, if our car have problems regardless of big or small matter, will they give us free services?
And, most imptly is, I want hassle free.
Now, I don't see how TCM can reject all my little minor requests.... I can go there to BS them to check this n that, fix this n that? Alittle bit of problem, drive to TCM to ask their SE to fix it. I have prepaid S$1091? Am I right?
Hassle free........... key point.............
The above is just my 20cents, it might not be accurate.
Regards.
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let's assume no NPMP. don't really like the idea of paying upfront before getting the service.
some said even mileage like 20k, 40k, 60k which are major servicing shd go back TCM for peace of mind
and odd mileage like 30k,50k,70k can go outside like AS to save some moola.
from what I gathered, 20k go AS since it's cheaper by 30%.
hi ninevictor,
iagree w u. in fact, pay upfront is only benefiting TCM as they can use our $ to do something else, e.g. investment or pay for their staff salary....
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I serviced my car (40k milesage) at Autosaver just a few days ago. A major servicing. Total cost $207.50 including GST and wiper change (I use my own Amsoil signature series oil)
I also went for the ISC package (Intake System Cleaner) at $98. This package includes 2 x fuel system cleaner and 2 x fuel injector cleaner. The mechanic told me some benefits which I cannot remember other than that it would remove the carbon. I feel the car is more powerful and responsive after ISC. Not sure how long the power will last though.
I have also asked about the 2-yr package by Autosaver. Apparently, items like belt, CVT oil are not included (i.e. not free) unlike that for TCM NPMP. Also must use Autosaver's engine oil (I did not ask abt the brand). My understanding is that brake pads, which are included in the package, are the most costly item (total $200 I think) among the "free" items in NPMP.
I have serviced my car at Autosaver since 20k and so far so good...
I think a big part of decision between TCM NPMP and Autosaver is whether we wish to use our own engine oil. If we use our own oil and wipers, then the total cost of servicing by Autosaver for the 4 servicings (2x10, 1x20, 1x40) only abt $470 incl GST. If do not mind TCM engine oil, then NPMP is ok. Of course another big factor is whether we mind hassle-free like iagree said.
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for autosave 40k service, did they change the drive belt, fuel system filter and engine air filter?
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I serviced my car (40k milesage) at Autosaver just a few days ago. A major servicing. Total cost $207.50 including GST and wiper change (I use my own Amsoil signature series oil)
I also went for the ISC package (Intake System Cleaner) at $98. This package includes 2 x fuel system cleaner and 2 x fuel injector cleaner. The mechanic told me some benefits which I cannot remember other than that it would remove the carbon. I feel the car is more powerful and responsive after ISC. Not sure how long the power will last though.
I have also asked about the 2-yr package by Autosaver. Apparently, items like belt, CVT oil are not included (i.e. not free) unlike that for TCM NPMP. Also must use Autosaver's engine oil (I did not ask abt the brand). My understanding is that brake pads, which are included in the package, are the most costly item (total $200 I think) among the "free" items in NPMP.
I have serviced my car at Autosaver since 20k and so far so good...
I think a big part of decision between TCM NPMP and Autosaver is whether we wish to use our own engine oil. If we use our own oil and wipers, then the total cost of servicing by Autosaver for the 4 servicings (2x10, 1x20, 1x40) only abt $470 incl GST. If do not mind TCM engine oil, then NPMP is ok. Of course another big factor is whether we mind hassle-free like iagree said.
Thanks for the breakdown. I dont think I will sign up since I have 3 spares EO filter and need 5W-40 EO for my CNGed Latio.
Any idea how much EO filter and EO rebates would they give?
Thanks again
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For my 40k service, sorry i did not take note what was changed but autosaver servicing procedure follows strictly the same according to TCM manual so u can check it out what is included and what is not in a 40k TCM package. But i know belt definitely not changed. so far from 20k to 40k, i dun remember being charged for oil or air filter (based on memory only)
If bring own EO, autosaver will deduct $45 from package price. Not sure abt EO filter. Rebate for wiper not used in 20k, 40k services is I think $15.
My personal experience is EO makes a lot of difference to car performance. that's why i choose to use my own EO and hence choose autosaver.
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For my 40k service, sorry i did not take note what was changed but autosaver servicing procedure follows strictly the same according to TCM manual so u can check it out what is included and what is not in a 40k TCM package. But i know belt definitely not changed. so far from 20k to 40k, i dun remember being charged for oil or air filter (based on memory only)
If bring own EO, autosaver will deduct $45 from package price. Not sure abt EO filter. Rebate for wiper not used in 20k, 40k services is I think $15.
My personal experience is EO makes a lot of difference to car performance. that's why i choose to use my own EO and hence choose autosaver.
then I will not say there are the same. On paper can say there are the same, but must look at the item they replace and did they charge you extra for that.
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then I will not say there are the same. On paper can say there are the same, but must look at the item they replace and did they charge you extra for that.
yap, maybe u would like to do a detailed comparison of the packages which would state clearly what items are included and what are not becos my understanding is they are the same (which could be wrong). my own understanding is that the following are not free by autosaver for their normal services: brake pads ($200 I think), belt ($60 I think), CVT oil (60k), spark plugs (100k). so far from 20k to 40k, i was not charged extra for all items used (e.g the air, oil filters were changed at 20k/40k plus other things like brake fluid, coolant etc)
If TCM would offer similar rebates for EO/wipers for their NPMP, I may have considered NPMP. Though NPMP would still be more expensive even if they give EO/wiper rebate + I need to pay for brake pads/belt/CVT etc by autosaver, the cost difference would be much reduced and worthy "insurance" premium to be paid for hassle-free.
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I serviced my car (40k milesage) at Autosaver just a few days ago. A major servicing. Total cost $207.50 including GST and wiper change (I use my own Amsoil signature series oil)
I also went for the ISC package (Intake System Cleaner) at $98. This package includes 2 x fuel system cleaner and 2 x fuel injector cleaner. The mechanic told me some benefits which I cannot remember other than that it would remove the carbon. I feel the car is more powerful and responsive after ISC. Not sure how long the power will last though.
I have also asked about the 2-yr package by Autosaver. Apparently, items like belt, CVT oil are not included (i.e. not free) unlike that for TCM NPMP. Also must use Autosaver's engine oil (I did not ask abt the brand). My understanding is that brake pads, which are included in the package, are the most costly item (total $200 I think) among the "free" items in NPMP.
I have serviced my car at Autosaver since 20k and so far so good...
I think a big part of decision between TCM NPMP and Autosaver is whether we wish to use our own engine oil. If we use our own oil and wipers, then the total cost of servicing by Autosaver for the 4 servicings (2x10, 1x20, 1x40) only abt $470 incl GST. If do not mind TCM engine oil, then NPMP is ok. Of course another big factor is whether we mind hassle-free like iagree said.
What is the Nissan part number of the engine oil filter used by AS?
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I serviced my car (40k milesage) at Autosaver just a few days ago. A major servicing. Total cost $207.50 including GST and wiper change (I use my own Amsoil signature series oil)
I also went for the ISC package (Intake System Cleaner) at $98. This package includes 2 x fuel system cleaner and 2 x fuel injector cleaner. The mechanic told me some benefits which I cannot remember other than that it would remove the carbon. I feel the car is more powerful and responsive after ISC. Not sure how long the power will last though.
I have also asked about the 2-yr package by Autosaver. Apparently, items like belt, CVT oil are not included (i.e. not free) unlike that for TCM NPMP. Also must use Autosaver's engine oil (I did not ask abt the brand). My understanding is that brake pads, which are included in the package, are the most costly item (total $200 I think) among the "free" items in NPMP.
I have serviced my car at Autosaver since 20k and so far so good...
I think a big part of decision between TCM NPMP and Autosaver is whether we wish to use our own engine oil. If we use our own oil and wipers, then the total cost of servicing by Autosaver for the 4 servicings (2x10, 1x20, 1x40) only abt $470 incl GST. If do not mind TCM engine oil, then NPMP is ok. Of course another big factor is whether we mind hassle-free like iagree said.
helo walker
i thk tcm npmp is still the best.
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helo walker
i thk tcm npmp is still the best.
No prob iagree. I also think that NPMP is very good it is just a pity that it does not allow EO rebate to allow us to save cost. Interestingly, TCM individual package allows EO rebate.
I've tried Fasflo b4 at 10k and it really cannot make it. I would prefer to enjoy the car with power for few months between servicings rather to think abt the problems that can happen and whether i m covered. If really car finally got a problem, I would then worry abt it, find a way and it can be resolved with TCM. :smile:
There are also other factors. First, TCM servicing often takes a long time even for minor servicing. Second, I find Autosaver service professional so far. Third, if no need car b4 NPMP finish, then has to lose the cost paid for rest of services (tho can transfer but need some hassle. can forget abt add on to resale value)
At the end of the day, it's individual preference. Just want to present other side of consideration in terms of cost. Not that I am particular abt cost (I didnt calculate the Autosaver cost until I wish to offer figures here to compare objectively with the cost of NPMP).
Having said that, I think among many car agents, TCM NPMP is comparatively attractive.
Cheers
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No prob iagree. I also think that NPMP is very good it is just a pity that it does not allow EO rebate to allow us to save cost. Interestingly, TCM individual package allows EO rebate.
I've tried Fasflo b4 at 10k and it really cannot make it. I would prefer to enjoy the car with power for few months between servicings rather to think abt the problems that can happen and whether i m covered. If really car finally got a problem, I would then worry abt it, find a way and it can be resolved with TCM. :smile:
There are also other factors. First, TCM servicing often takes a long time even for minor servicing. Second, I find Autosaver service professional so far. Third, if no need car b4 NPMP finish, then has to lose the cost paid for rest of services (tho can transfer but need some hassle. can forget abt add on to resale value)
At the end of the day, it's individual preference. Just want to present other side of consideration in terms of cost. Not that I am particular abt cost (I didnt calculate the Autosaver cost until I wish to offer figures here to compare objectively with the cost of NPMP).
Having said that, I think among many car agents, TCM NPMP is comparatively attractive.
Cheers
hi walker
ic. indv tcm service allow us to save cost (rebate)? so gd?
but if indv one, i thk they anyhow charge labor cost here n there, end up might hv to pay more.
now we hv npmp, i dun thk tcm allow to gv us rebate coz it is a pkg, if we prefer to use own eo, i thk they wont gv discount or rebate aso. no choice loh if so.... in fact, we save alot of hassles, and just leave it to tcm to service n chk whatever prob we highlight to them at foc, coz
1) still < 100k km, within wrty
2) we hv npmp with them, if the ride hv prob, it is their servicing is not up to std... or the car is hving technical problem with their manufacturing defects or sthing like that...
3) we can shoot them, drive back to them and nah them. ask them to chk.
4) argue with them and bang table if necessary.
i still prefer tcm.
i serviced at workshop out there, i can save alot, but i dun feel comfortable.
regards.
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hello all
NPMP ^$^
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Guys wat are the AutoSaver branches u all have visited?
Any feedbacks on the different branches?
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hello pizzaboy
go TCM better lah.
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ehh don't say like that leh, this is autosavers promotions thread leh. Each have its pros n cons, people must have the choice mah. agree?
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Agreed. If TCM is the best, all workshops outside would have burst by now. Monopoly is not good for consumers btw
pizzaboy, I have to been AS Kaki Bukit for my first servicing in June and AS Defu Lane last Friday.
Kaki Bukit is very small, with only 1 seat for customer. The place doesnt seems to be able to be able to service more than 2 cars indoors though. (Mechanic is patient and friendly though)
The one in Defu Lane is much larger by comparision. Have sofas in aircon office for customers. And workshop is pretty well staffed and the men seems pretty knowledgable. The only complaint i have is that they move too fast. Not like Kaki Bukit's mechanic whom i have chance to bomb him with questions while he worked ;)
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hello pizzaboy
go TCM better lah.
Bro, you spokeperson for TCM arr? ;D
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Each have its pros n cons, people must have the choice mah. agree?
Yup, i agree. i also have my own preferred workshop. But since TCM offered me free NPMP when i bot my car so i take, lor. in fact, that's the only reason i go to them for my servicing... The moment my NPMP & 3yr warranty over, i won't be going back to them...
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ehh don't say like that leh, this is autosavers promotions thread leh. Each have its pros n cons, people must have the choice mah. agree?
Hi Ying
Yes, iagree with you.
Pros & Cons... hassle free is the key loh, that is my concern.
Ying, u aso hv npmp rite?
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Bro, you spokeperson for TCM arr? ;D
hi valeon,
ooo, not really leh. but i like hassle free and i do feel that their services are ok. i can throw all the problems to them, ask them to solve anyhow.
regards.
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Yup, i agree. i also have my own preferred workshop. But since TCM offered me free NPMP when i bot my car so i take, lor. in fact, that's the only reason i go to them for my servicing... The moment my NPMP & 3yr warranty over, i won't be going back to them...
hi zippy
ohhh, who offer u free npmp? ur SE? nice leh. mine never offer leh.
now, i hvnt chk with my agent, regarding the iKey, not sure the ol price like S$100+ for the spare ikey still VALID or not.......
coz i chk with TCM, it cost me ard S$290 for full new iKey, terrible.
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hi zippy
ohhh, who offer u free npmp? ur SE? nice leh. mine never offer leh.
i tot now most of the SE offers 3 (basic) + 4 more servicings
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hi zippy
ohhh, who offer u free npmp? ur SE? nice leh. mine never offer leh.
The so called "free" NPMP is actually not free.
If you choose to opt out of the "free" NPMP, Tan Chong will refund you $600 or $800 off the purchase price of your car, the exact figure I cannot recall.
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Went TCM Ubi for 20k servicing yesterday. Don't think will go back TCM for the next servicing. Pissed.
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Went TCM Ubi for 20k servicing yesterday. Don't think will go back TCM for the next servicing. Pissed.
what happened ??? can share with us ??
cheers
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Agreed. If TCM is the best, all workshops outside would have burst by now. Monopoly is not good for consumers btw
pizzaboy, I have to been AS Kaki Bukit for my first servicing in June and AS Defu Lane last Friday.
Kaki Bukit is very small, with only 1 seat for customer. The place doesnt seems to be able to be able to service more than 2 cars indoors though. (Mechanic is patient and friendly though)
The one in Defu Lane is much larger by comparision. Have sofas in aircon office for customers. And workshop is pretty well staffed and the men seems pretty knowledgable. The only complaint i have is that they move too fast. Not like Kaki Bukit's mechanic whom i have chance to bomb him with questions while he worked ;)
Hmm, I think I will do my 60k servicing at Kaki Bukit since its near to my work place. All my other servicing is at TCM but had some unfortunate encounters
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Went TCM Ubi for 20k servicing yesterday. Don't think will go back TCM for the next servicing. Pissed.
Same experience as me???
ps: see my thread in first servicing for info...
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The so called "free" NPMP is actually not free.
If you choose to opt out of the "free" NPMP, Tan Chong will refund you $600 or $800 off the purchase price of your car, the exact figure I cannot recall.
hi clarence
ohh, if so then no diff loh....
sigh
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yup. when i bought my latio last dec, my agent ask me if i need the NPMP. She says i can just deduct $800 from the purchase price of the car if i do not need it. She advised me to opt out so that if i need it, i can always purchase later. Mind you, if you opt in, your purchase price will be higher and hence the interest of the bank loan taken will be higher.
So effectively you are paying the installments of the extra 2yr NPMP with interest. So people, the NPMP that comes with it is NOT free!!
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yup. when i bought my latio last dec, my agent ask me if i need the NPMP. She says i can just deduct $800 from the purchase price of the car if i do not need it. She advised me to opt out so that if i need it, i can always purchase later. Mind you, if you opt in, your purchase price will be higher and hence the interest of the bank loan taken will be higher.
So effectively you are paying the installments of the extra 2yr NPMP with interest. So people, the NPMP that comes with it is NOT free!!
say you got the car and want to sign up NPMP, you have to pay $1091 on the spot. Just pay part of that amount ($800) on top of your downpayment and you get $291 saving. hassle free some more.
If you compare autosave package $900+, you still save $100+ right away.
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which workshop will give free service?
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which workshop will give free service?
Ying, u mistook wat i said. When you buy a car, the agent will tell u the car comes with a 2yr NPMP (sometimes they add the word "free"). But for those who may not know (like my first time with Sunny), you can actually deduct the cost of the NPMP from the car buying price, which can reduce your overall loan amount, hence the payable interests, hence lowering the monthly installments.
If you really go calculate, if you take in the 2 yr NPMP when you buy the car, assuming you are on the 0% downpayment loan scheme (which i did) and the interest rate of 1.99%, you are paying $959.20 for the 2yr NPMP, not much of a saving anyway. One have to remember that even after you used up the 2yr NPMP and assuming you are driving the car till its 10th year, you are paying for something that has been exhausted.
Quite a number of banks allow you to pay by installments for purchases INTEREST-FREE!! So if you consider it from this angle, getting the NPMP package separately and requesting credit card company to split the cost into installments (24 months will be the best) may be more viable for some.
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Ying, u mistook wat i said. When you buy a car, the agent will tell u the car comes with a 2yr NPMP (sometimes they add the word "free"). But for those who may not know (like my first time with Sunny), you can actually deduct the cost of the NPMP from the car buying price, which can reduce your overall loan amount, hence the payable interests, hence lowering the monthly installments.
If you really go calculate, if you take in the 2 yr NPMP when you buy the car, assuming you are on the 0% downpayment loan scheme (which i did) and the interest rate of 1.99%, you are paying $959.20 for the 2yr NPMP, not much of a saving anyway. One have to remember that even after you used up the 2yr NPMP and assuming you are driving the car till its 10th year, you are paying for something that has been exhausted.
Quite a number of banks allow you to pay by installments for purchases INTEREST-FREE!! So if you consider it from this angle, getting the NPMP package separately and requesting credit card company to split the cost into installments (24 months will be the best) may be more viable for some.
think NPMP cannot pay by credit card. Autosaver one can
cheers
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npmp can be paid using credit card... cos i just paid them the last time round when i signed up for it...
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NPMP is $1091 now, with new car you trade in for $800 then say go for Autosaver $908. So you pay $108 more.
Say you opt-in, then pay $800 cash off your loan amount. You get 2 yrs package for just $800. In both case, you still borrow same amount of money to pay for your car wat. But if you want 0% downpayment with NPMP opt-in then you make yourself pay more.
what words the marketing people used is not important, it is how much you pay for the same service. New car owner have a chance to pay just $800 as compare with $1091 walk in rate.
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I think NMPM is best to start closer to 60K, so that CVT oil is included plus all the belt and brake pad change at around 50k or so.
Opting in during the purchase of car may start the NMPM too soon, may missed out on replacement parts in the 60K servicing..
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Either NMPM or Autosavers promo is attractive but I am not comfortable with the EO use by them. What's more AS charges $60+ for the aircon filter whereas I can DIY for less than $20.
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Ying, u mistook wat i said. When you buy a car, the agent will tell u the car comes with a 2yr NPMP (sometimes they add the word "free"). But for those who may not know (like my first time with Sunny), you can actually deduct the cost of the NPMP from the car buying price, which can reduce your overall loan amount, hence the payable interests, hence lowering the monthly installments.
If you really go calculate, if you take in the 2 yr NPMP when you buy the car, assuming you are on the 0% downpayment loan scheme (which i did) and the interest rate of 1.99%, you are paying $959.20 for the 2yr NPMP, not much of a saving anyway. One have to remember that even after you used up the 2yr NPMP and assuming you are driving the car till its 10th year, you are paying for something that has been exhausted.
Quite a number of banks allow you to pay by installments for purchases INTEREST-FREE!! So if you consider it from this angle, getting the NPMP package separately and requesting credit card company to split the cost into installments (24 months will be the best) may be more viable for some.
hi melvinhgf & all
my agent gv me S$800 discount but i am not sure whether is related to 'free npmp' or not?
coz to me, he sounded he "gv me discount" leh, and i felt so great that he is so kind?
so, it is not the case then? if tcm always gv $800 discount. so this discount is not from the agent then? ma de
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think NPMP cannot pay by credit card. Autosaver one can
cheers
actually hor, when i bought my macbook with ocbc credit card, after the purchase, the bank send a letter saying that they can convert into installment as long as i send in the request before the billing date. so its through the bank directly, not through the shop
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NPMP is $1091 now, with new car you trade in for $800 then say go for Autosaver $908. So you pay $108 more.
Say you opt-in, then pay $800 cash off your loan amount. You get 2 yrs package for just $800. In both case, you still borrow same amount of money to pay for your car wat. But if you want 0% downpayment with NPMP opt-in then you make yourself pay more.
what words the marketing people used is not important, it is how much you pay for the same service. New car owner have a chance to pay just $800 as compare with $1091 walk in rate.
ying, u missed my pt again.
i agree that autosaver's $908 is not cheaper than TCM's $800 when u are buying their cars. but my point is, the way the agent is putting across to potential buyers can be misleading. i was sharing my experience with others here that the buying price of the car may have the $800 NPMP factored in it already. So if the agent tell you that there is a 2yr NPMP with it, you know that you are actually paying for it. Even if it is free, the buyer can request to opt out for it in exchange for a reduction in the car price
So for those who may not know, they can always ask their agent to deduct $800 from the car's buying price so they have a lower buying price for whatever the reasons can be. Some like me when i bought my Sunny (my first car 4 years ago) may not know about this. It was actually my sales agent who asked me if i really need the NPMP. The hint is so obvious.
after 2 yrs, perhaps the economy is better, so one can better afford the rate? nobody knows. so for me, i look at what i have at present, reduce the loan amount and interest and decide after 1.5yr later. For others they may have their favourite mechanic or workshop so they prefer to go outside. When my NPMP ended, I'm seriously contemplating to find other workshops. But i have no good lobangs. Anyway i dun find TCM mechanics that wonderful. Now with my lousy experiences with TCM, i'm beginning to feel fortunate tat i did not take the NPMP.
My info may inform them of the possible choices regarding NPMP. Different people have different wallet size. So while you can afford to let the banks earn extra interest on the $800, some people cant. So my earlier postings merely share my experiences.
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what words the marketing people used is not important, it is how much you pay for the same service. ....
Yes they had used the word free, better word is "discount", but most of us know nothing is free especially in Singapore. So I always filter off the word free from sales talk.
goat hair grows on goat right?
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Yes they had used the word free, better word is "discount", but most of us know nothing is free especially in Singapore. So I always filter off the word free from sales talk.
goat hair grows on goat right?
hi all
yes, iagree with u guys.
i thk back what the agent had said "discount".... terrible lah.....
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hi all
IMO
still, go for TCM's NPMP, hassle-free! safer for our Latio ^$^
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Hassle free vs wallet size.
I'm just lazy to go AS, maybe my 60K servicing. Now my reverse sensor a bit something wrong, beep even before I am near to wall/ object, and my door lock which give me problem as the mechanism need to replace which end up might cost me $300 w labor charge.
So end of the day, I did the servicing and go off without doing the stuff. Brought my EO along, no worries. I always opt out NPMP because I always thought that I might change car. hahaha :yehyeh:
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For those who insist on TCM services, u can always go across our friendly neighbour ETCM to do ur servicing.. I did my 30k servicing over there, the S.A recommended me to do a engine flush, injector clean + fuel addictive package & tyre rotations i ended up paying S$100 for the entire servicing...
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ying, u missed my pt again.
i agree that autosaver's $908 is not cheaper than TCM's $800 when u are buying their cars. but my point is, the way the agent is putting across to potential buyers can be misleading. i was sharing my experience with others here that the buying price of the car may have the $800 NPMP factored in it already. So if the agent tell you that there is a 2yr NPMP with it, you know that you are actually paying for it. Even if it is free, the buyer can request to opt out for it in exchange for a reduction in the car price
So for those who may not know, they can always ask their agent to deduct $800 from the car's buying price so they have a lower buying price for whatever the reasons can be. Some like me when i bought my Sunny (my first car 4 years ago) may not know about this. It was actually my sales agent who asked me if i really need the NPMP. The hint is so obvious.
after 2 yrs, perhaps the economy is better, so one can better afford the rate? nobody knows. so for me, i look at what i have at present, reduce the loan amount and interest and decide after 1.5yr later. For others they may have their favourite mechanic or workshop so they prefer to go outside. When my NPMP ended, I'm seriously contemplating to find other workshops. But i have no good lobangs. Anyway i dun find TCM mechanics that wonderful. Now with my lousy experiences with TCM, i'm beginning to feel fortunate tat i did not take the NPMP.
My info may inform them of the possible choices regarding NPMP. Different people have different wallet size. So while you can afford to let the banks earn extra interest on the $800, some people cant. So my earlier postings merely share my experiences.
Other than Autosaver, you can also try River View Auto Services
http://www.riverviewauto.com.sg/
Several Latio Club members have tried their services and are pleased and satisfied.
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For those who insist on TCM services, u can always go across our friendly neighbour ETCM to do ur servicing.. I did my 30k servicing over there, the S.A recommended me to do a engine flush, injector clean + fuel addictive package & tyre rotations i ended up paying S$100 for the entire servicing...
package A can lah, package C for CVT need special arrangement. The oil and spare part source are diff. TCM malaysia use more Malaysian product. TCM here mostly Japan product. Malaysia Latio is dun have CVT version.
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m'sia latio follow thai spec s'pore is japan spec but not to worry u can bring ur own engine oil & oil filter there they will rebate u parts that u did not use.
Basic servicing still ok lah but if wanna do major service eg. 40k,80k,120k do in s'pore lor can save jiu save bah :lahlahlah:
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Other than Autosaver, you can also try River View Auto Services
http://www.riverviewauto.com.sg/
Several Latio Club members have tried their services and are pleased and satisfied.
How's pricing of river view compared to autosaver?
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How's pricing of river view compared to autosaver?
Comparable.
Definitely cheaper than Tan Chong.
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Comparable.
Definitely cheaper than Tan Chong.
hmm, some one just posted change sprak plug TCM $39+/pc vs AS $42/pc leh
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hmm, some one just posted change sprak plug TCM $39+/pc vs AS $42/pc leh
I just called Tan Chong and Auto Saver to clarify the prices.
Latio uses platinum spark plugs.
Auto Saver
$168 for 4 spark plugs + $30 labour = $198
Tan Chong
$100 for 4 spark plugs + $130 labour = $230
So Auto Saver is still cheaper.
Or can buy spark plug from Tan Chong and bring to Auto Saver to install. ;D
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I just called Tan Chong and Auto Saver to clarify the prices.
Latio uses platinum spark plugs.
Auto Saver
$168 for 4 spark plugs + $30 labour = $198
Tan Chong
$100 for 4 spark plugs + $130 labour = $230
So Auto Saver is still cheaper.
Or can buy spark plug from Tan Chong and bring to Auto Saver to install. ;D
like that our member kena chop extra $30 labour from AS liao...
http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=7338.60
may be AS know you better thus lowering the labour cost for you. IMO, if you going to drive the car for long time then sign the 2 yrs package is better. Change spark plug also cheaper. TCM's package include part and labour; AS's package at least include the labour cost.
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like that our member kena chop extra $30 labour from AS liao...
http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=7338.60
may be AS know you better thus lowering the labour cost for you. IMO, if you going to drive the car for long time then sign the 2 yrs package is better. Change spark plug also cheaper. TCM's package include part and labour; AS's package at least include the labour cost.
hi ying and all
go change @ TCM, best lah.
let TCM responsible for it.
any problem, we drive back to TCM to lut them
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IF you want to change spark plug, it is more logical to change at service maintenance intervals where
normally they wont charge labour. I belive if you specially just drop in and change spark plug, definitely they going to charge u a bomb.
like that our member kena chop extra $30 labour from AS liao...
http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=7338.60
may be AS know you better thus lowering the labour cost for you. IMO, if you going to drive the car for long time then sign the 2 yrs package is better. Change spark plug also cheaper. TCM's package include part and labour; AS's package at least include the labour cost.
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Autosavers having promotions for 2 yrs servicing,
Package consists of:
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m'sia latio follow thai spec s'pore is japan spec but not to worry u can bring ur own engine oil & oil filter there they will rebate u parts that u did not use.
Basic servicing still ok lah but if wanna do major service eg. 40k,80k,120k do in s'pore lor can save jiu save bah :lahlahlah:
hi pizza
gosh
talking abt msia tcm, lousy lah.
charge me for the real brake lamp rm16 , terrible, single lamp oni, got "GOLD" is it?
regards.
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Autosavers having promotions for 2 yrs servicing,
Package consists of:
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Yo, go for TCM NPMP best.
What's the advantage of TCM NPMP 2 year package over AS's?
The price are not competitive enough leh?
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when taking NPMP, do consider the following that is not cover under warranty but cover under NPMP.
time chain: normally last around 50k
brake pad: last around 50 - 60k
spark plug: 90 -100k
brake shoe: 90 - 100k
ensure you are covered within these range. If not taking single service at AS is better.
My last 80k service with AS using own engine oil cost me $181.
What's the advantage of TCM NPMP 2 year package over AS's?
The price are not competitive enough leh?