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Title: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Dukth on February 19, 2009, 01:49:46 PM
Hi guys,

Just bought my first car,a Latio,got it 2 weeks ago. Everything seems great so far but I notice the latio is quite a bumpy ride. Is this normal? Going over humps and little bumps on the road,the whole car shakes quite a lot,so I was wondering,anyone have any advice on whether I can do anything about the suspension/dampeners? Is there anything we can do abt the bumpiness?

Kinda new to this kind of thing so appreciate any kind advice that can be given on this,many thanks!
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: cheetah on February 19, 2009, 02:17:40 PM
Hi

i am also facing the same problem. mine is also just a month old. I feel the shakes when traveling in the some shopping center carparks(tiong bahru plaza i remember).

is this normal or need to be seriviced?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: mindman on February 19, 2009, 05:07:02 PM
Hi

i am also facing the same problem. mine is also just a month old. I feel the shakes when traveling in the some shopping center carparks(tiong bahru plaza i remember).

is this normal or need to be seriviced?

Hi,
think shd be normal.  when go over humps, try to slow down to reduce the level of bump.  some bros here have installed the stiffener  from autobacs. but not sure it will  help.
cheers
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: valeon on February 19, 2009, 05:11:00 PM

Tire over inflated?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: maxngck on February 19, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
hi!

our latio is built for comfort. the suspension is kinda soft. try playing around with ur tyre pressure see whether it help anot. to me it is still ok. i m pumping 245 to both front and back tyre for my 16".
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Dukth on February 19, 2009, 05:28:32 PM
Thanks for the advice on the tyres guys,I pumped mine to 240 to see if it helped but seems to still be quite rough. Was wondering if lowering the suspensions or changing the dampeners would help any but Im a bit hesitant to do this. Very sayang the new car!  :devil2:


Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: maxngck on February 19, 2009, 05:35:19 PM
hi!

many people after changing their damper, they dun really like it and change back to original. but there r oso some did it without regret  :devil2:. so better do some homework b4 decide to change it.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Ying on February 19, 2009, 05:54:20 PM
hi!

many people after changing their damper, they dun really like it and change back to original. but there r oso some did it without regret  :devil2:. so better do some homework b4 decide to change it.

regret can offer me a price, I will take one set for front. 
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Dukth on February 19, 2009, 06:10:28 PM
hi!

many people after changing their damper, they dun really like it and change back to original. but there r oso some did it without regret  :devil2:. so better do some homework b4 decide to change it.

Totally agree,anyone out there with no regrets so far can share their experiences? ;D
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: maxngck on February 19, 2009, 08:17:28 PM
regret can offer me a price, I will take one set for front. 

heheee.....i m those who is satisfy and can live the the original suspension  :bleh:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Gone with the wind on February 20, 2009, 12:31:49 AM
ok, let me share with you about my experience.

My latio is also less than 2 month old.  I found the original suspension too soft too.  If you read one of the thread on Coilover GB, you will find my big complaint there!  The Latio back seats with 3 passengers (total weight less than 150kg), the tail pipe can hit the ground when went over the car park hump.

Anyway, cut the story short.  So eventually, I complaint to TCS and it was kind of them to admit that the Singapore Latio suspension is comfort oriented.  They scheduled a time slot for me to change my latio rear spring to Japan version, which is alot stiffer.  The reason given by TCS was Japan road is alot better and flat compared with Singapore road which is bumpy (better tell LTA to buck up :D)

After the upgrade, the ride was alot firmer and handling also improved.  Personally, I like it alot better.  Today, I just installed the front strut bar and rear anti roll bar to further enhance the road holding, now the car can take sharp corner very well and the ride is alot more steady that you will not feel the car rocking during high speed (I was on Lornie road this evening, going at 110km at some stage, and taking the winding/under construction Farrer road around 80km without problem).  The steering response is sharper with the bars installed and also eliminate most of the body roll.

All this is achieved without lower the car suspension, original shocks and Japan spec rear springs, stock 15' rim and tires.  I am very satisfied.

For those new latio owners, I learnt TCS has limited stock of Jap spec springs.  So you might want to do it quickly, not sure they will bring in more when the stock finished.  TCS will change the rear springs FOC if you complaint the ride is too soft to your liking and your latio can not even take 3 passengers at the back!

Good luck!
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Ying on February 20, 2009, 10:05:35 AM
heheee.....i m those who is satisfy and can live the the original suspension  :bleh:

It really depend on your regular loading and route. I admit the stock is very comfort for some road under certain speed. For my case, my rear loading is always more than front. I install damper at rear to balance it and handing is much better now. Damper is cheap and good for me, got more money can consider coil over lah.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on February 20, 2009, 10:16:47 AM
ok, let me share with you about my experience.

My latio is also less than 2 month old.  I found the original suspension too soft too.  If you read one of the thread on Coilover GB, you will find my big complaint there!  The Latio back seats with 3 passengers (total weight less than 150kg), the tail pipe can hit the ground when went over the car park hump.

Anyway, cut the story short.  So eventually, I complaint to TCS and it was kind of them to admit that the Singapore Latio suspension is comfort oriented.  They scheduled a time slot for me to change my latio rear spring to Japan version, which is alot stiffer.  The reason given by TCS was Japan road is alot better and flat compared with Singapore road which is bumpy (better tell LTA to buck up :D)

After the upgrade, the ride was alot firmer and handling also improved.  Personally, I like it alot better.  Today, I just installed the front strut bar and rear anti roll bar to further enhance the road holding, now the car can take sharp corner very well and the ride is alot more steady that you will not feel the car rocking during high speed (I was on Lornie road this evening, going at 110km at some stage, and taking the winding/under construction Farrer road around 80km without problem).  The steering response is sharper with the bars installed and also eliminate most of the body roll.

All this is achieved without lower the car suspension, original shocks and Japan spec rear springs, stock 15' rim and tires.  I am very satisfied.

For those new latio owners, I learnt TCS has limited stock of Jap spec springs.  So you might want to do it quickly, not sure they will bring in more when the stock finished.  TCS will change the rear springs FOC if you complaint the ride is too soft to your liking and your latio can not even take 3 passengers at the back!

Good luck!


Hi, which service center u went to? and which SA? Actually I was thinking install stiffener at first, after reading your story, think I will get TCS to change the rear spring to Japan version. So what did they changed? springs or absorbers ?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Gone with the wind on February 20, 2009, 12:24:12 PM
You just need to call TCM service hotline, complaint about the suspension being too soft.  They will ask you which center you preferred to go to.

Just only the real springs are changed to Japan spec springs.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on February 21, 2009, 03:56:11 PM
You just need to call TCM service hotline, complaint about the suspension being too soft.  They will ask you which center you preferred to go to.

Just only the real springs are changed to Japan spec springs.

will try to call next week. Is it okay to have soft front suspension (singapore version) and hard rear suspension (japan version)? Should change all front and rear together?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: machim on February 21, 2009, 09:31:05 PM
It really depend on your regular loading and route. I admit the stock is very comfort for some road under certain speed. For my case, my rear loading is always more than front. I install damper at rear to balance it and handing is much better now. Damper is cheap and good for me, got more money can consider coil over lah.

Does that mean your ride is less bumpy now without sacrificing the comfort? Any cons after installing the damper and how much you pay for it?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: mindman on February 22, 2009, 09:42:33 AM
You just need to call TCM service hotline, complaint about the suspension being too soft.  They will ask you which center you preferred to go to.

Just only the real springs are changed to Japan spec springs.

need to pay ?
cheers
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Gone with the wind on February 22, 2009, 04:34:41 PM
The front suspension is perfectly fine.  With the engine right in front, do you notice the car sinking?  Only the rear suspension is too soft for our market, so if you do not like it, you need to talk to TCM.  They changed it for me FOC.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: machim on February 22, 2009, 05:24:39 PM
The front suspension is perfectly fine.  With the engine right in front, do you notice the car sinking?  Only the rear suspension is too soft for our market, so if you do not like it, you need to talk to TCM.  They changed it for me FOC.

After changing it, is it less comfortable for the rear passengers? Or it it better?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: carowner on February 22, 2009, 08:14:32 PM
Other than the TCM suspension which was mentioned in this thread, anyone has tried any after market suspension? If yes, can share your experience?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Gone with the wind on February 22, 2009, 09:25:33 PM
After changing it, is it less comfortable for the rear passengers? Or it it better?



The ride is just right for me.  Comfortable or not is very individual.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: pizzaboy on February 23, 2009, 01:06:30 AM
1stly some owners change aftmkt coilovers to make their car looks lower, as original suspension makes the tyres and wheel archs looks very far apart thus not so sporty lookin. Comfort wise depends on wat brands and model u choose from.

2ndly some owners change their coilover because they drive hard and play corners and bends at high speed thus the need to change to aftmarket coilovers eg. teins, bc, cusco etc etc... if you were to drive in that manner with original shocks i think 1 fine day ur car will flip and overturn very soon.

Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: tayyw76 on February 24, 2009, 11:55:57 PM
ok, let me share with you about my experience.

My latio is also less than 2 month old.  I found the original suspension too soft too.  If you read one of the thread on Coilover GB, you will find my big complaint there!  The Latio back seats with 3 passengers (total weight less than 150kg), the tail pipe can hit the ground when went over the car park hump.

Anyway, cut the story short.  So eventually, I complaint to TCS and it was kind of them to admit that the Singapore Latio suspension is comfort oriented.  They scheduled a time slot for me to change my latio rear spring to Japan version, which is alot stiffer.  The reason given by TCS was Japan road is alot better and flat compared with Singapore road which is bumpy (better tell LTA to buck up :D)

After the upgrade, the ride was alot firmer and handling also improved.  Personally, I like it alot better.  Today, I just installed the front strut bar and rear anti roll bar to further enhance the road holding, now the car can take sharp corner very well and the ride is alot more steady that you will not feel the car rocking during high speed (I was on Lornie road this evening, going at 110km at some stage, and taking the winding/under construction Farrer road around 80km without problem).  The steering response is sharper with the bars installed and also eliminate most of the body roll.

All this is achieved without lower the car suspension, original shocks and Japan spec rear springs, stock 15' rim and tires.  I am very satisfied.

For those new latio owners, I learnt TCS has limited stock of Jap spec springs.  So you might want to do it quickly, not sure they will bring in more when the stock finished.  TCS will change the rear springs FOC if you complaint the ride is too soft to your liking and your latio can not even take 3 passengers at the back!

Good luck!

Just went to TCM Jurong service centre and tell the advisor that latio sedan spring very soft and he say that he can change it to the latio sports spring as its harder... Pls note that all original spring are all from japan.....
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Carmodz on February 25, 2009, 12:19:26 AM
if you were to drive in that manner with original shocks i think 1 fine day ur car will flip and overturn very soon.



bro...u remind me of someone siah...
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: maxngck on February 25, 2009, 07:09:58 AM
Just went to TCM Jurong service centre and tell the advisor that latio sedan spring very soft and he say that he can change it to the latio sports spring as its harder... Pls note that all original spring are all from japan.....

i tot both sport and sedan using same spring  :confused1:. so did u change it?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on February 25, 2009, 09:14:39 AM
Just went to TCM Jurong service centre and tell the advisor that latio sedan spring very soft and he say that he can change it to the latio sports spring as its harder... Pls note that all original spring are all from japan.....

Mind to share the effect after changing that? U changed rear only or front as well?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on February 25, 2009, 10:02:20 AM
Just called UBI service centre, the SA said changing to stiffer suspension may create more problems like noise, etc. Insist me sending down my car for suspension inspection.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: mindman on February 25, 2009, 10:44:23 AM
Just called UBI service centre, the SA said changing to stiffer suspension may create more problems like noise, etc. Insist me sending down my car for suspension inspection.

based on experience , usually the SA will tell you the suspension is ok.  unless you are firm and insist the change

cheers

 
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Gone with the wind on February 25, 2009, 12:20:46 PM
Ask the SA is that what happened to all the Japanese Latio, that they are suffering from many problems like noise?  What you are asking is to change to a stiffer Japan Spec Rear Springs, which they are using on all the Japan domestic Latio.  You should tell the SA straight not to give you all the crab and waste your time.

You can challenge him to put three men behind the rear passenger seats, and see whether your Latio rear suspension will sink.  Tell him you have problem clearing many car parks hump with passengers.

The Japan Spec Rear Springs is used on all Japan domestic Latio, it should be well tested and proven.  It anyone worry about ride comfort or something else -
1.  don't change and don't complaint
2.  spend some money to install after market springs stifferners
3.  spend more money to change to after makret springs
4.  change all the suspensions and springs to your heart content

Tell the SA you have known that TCM had changed the rear springs FOC for few Latio already, ask him why he is treating you differently if your ride is still fairly new?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: sengkang on February 25, 2009, 05:35:06 PM
Changing yr stock tire from 185 to 195 or 205 will help.
Yr ride will be more stable when cornering also :yehyeh:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: pest11 on February 27, 2009, 10:49:33 AM
Already checked with TC-lokyang .... SA advise me to go down for accessment and get SA-Mgr approval, then they will officially apply approval from Nissan-Japan for this replacement.

And yes, the stiffer spring is same as Latio-sports .... accordingly, latio-sports is "consider" sports and therefore require a stiffer spring/ride !!!
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: zzyzx on February 27, 2009, 11:04:09 AM
means what? if i;m driving the hatchback version, my spring is already the japan spec kind?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on February 27, 2009, 04:27:43 PM
Just got mine changed yesterday at UBI. It really stiffer than stock, and the rear side is slightly higher a bit. Will monitor a few weeks and feedback. Just wondering, those who got it changed, did the SA said you can change it back to stock if you don't like it?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Jazz on February 27, 2009, 10:34:21 PM
Just got mine changed yesterday at UBI. It really stiffer than stock, and the rear side is slightly higher a bit. Will monitor a few weeks and feedback. Just wondering, those who got it changed, did the SA said you can change it back to stock if you don't like it?

Do you need to make appointment for changing?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: tayyw76 on February 28, 2009, 12:09:45 AM
Do you need to make appointment for changing?

I went down to TCM-Lok Yang on tuesday and ask the SA that how come latio sedan spring so soft then ask him can change to stiffer anot. He immediately help me ask his storeman got stock bo... Then storeman say got 1 last set then wed i send my car down to change... I'm enjoying my ride with the stiffer spring....
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: ckyc on February 28, 2009, 01:44:42 AM
i complained this problem during my 20k.  i even drove down to toa payoh and complain abt the same problem - but they keep saying its like tt one.. bull ********.

didnt know got this JDM thing. i going during my 30k to complain again but this time not to lousy Tpy.

Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: vortex on February 28, 2009, 11:14:38 AM
I went down to TCM-Lok Yang on tuesday and ask the SA that how come latio sedan spring so soft then ask him can change to stiffer anot. He immediately help me ask his storeman got stock bo... Then storeman say got 1 last set then wed i send my car down to change... I'm enjoying my ride with the stiffer spring....

How much time did it take for them to change the spring ? Did you wait to collect your car or collect it on the next day ?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Midnight on February 28, 2009, 11:20:36 AM
Hi Guys,

By visual inspection, is there any way to tell if my suspension is stock or it has been changed to the stiffer one? I didnt know because i got my car 2nd hand. Thanks!
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on February 28, 2009, 02:45:40 PM
Do you need to make appointment for changing?

I did make the appointment as I have two other problems, steering coupling & glove box rattling noise. Got the rear spring & steering joint changed, but they never center my steering wheel, have to go back again (told them to take note on this) :mad: :mad:  The SA didn't said the spring is Japan spec, he just said TCM just bring in this stiffer version.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on February 28, 2009, 02:49:39 PM
Hi Guys,

By visual inspection, is there any way to tell if my suspension is stock or it has been changed to the stiffer one? I didnt know because i got my car 2nd hand. Thanks!

I compared mine with other latio next to me in TCM car part, realized the shock absorber is slightly higher, I can take a photo and show u later.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Jazz on February 28, 2009, 05:20:36 PM
I went down to TCM-Lok Yang on tuesday and ask the SA that how come latio sedan spring so soft then ask him can change to stiffer anot. He immediately help me ask his storeman got stock bo... Then storeman say got 1 last set then wed i send my car down to change... I'm enjoying my ride with the stiffer spring....

Happy for you.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Jazz on February 28, 2009, 05:22:03 PM
I compared mine with other latio next to me in TCM car part, realized the shock absorber is slightly higher, I can take a photo and show u later.

You changed all 4 or only the rear ? Looking forward for your pictures.  ;)
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on February 28, 2009, 09:55:26 PM
You changed all 4 or only the rear ? Looking forward for your pictures.  ;)

Just the rear. But hor, with this stiffer spring, my stuff keep jumping for every hump in the boot.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Jazz on February 28, 2009, 10:33:45 PM
Just the rear. But hor, with this stiffer spring, my stuff keep jumping for every hump in the boot.

So you regret ?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Midnight on March 01, 2009, 11:41:23 AM
I compared mine with other latio next to me in TCM car part, realized the shock absorber is slightly higher, I can take a photo and show u later.

Hi Arias,

Thanks! Wait for yr photos. I guess this is the only way to see unless i go workshop and jack the car up to see  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Gone with the wind on March 02, 2009, 10:16:28 AM
By visual inspection, is there any way to tell if my suspension is stock or it has been changed to the stiffer one? I didnt know because i got my car 2nd hand. Thanks!


Get three adults to sit at the back of your Latio, if the rear wheel arch sinks, look like almost bottom out, then probably yours is a soft springs.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: pest11 on March 02, 2009, 08:20:58 PM
confuse confuse .....  :confused1:

on Mon, i check with TC-Lokyang, SA say possible to change a stiffer spring (as latio sports) upon assessment .....
today, i passby and walk-in to TC-Toapayoh, after assessment SA say my ride is 2006 (old spring) and OK to change to improved spring (same as in current new latio sedan) and that latio-sport's spring cant fit into sedan's .......

anyway, aldy make appt to had it replaced at TC-toapayoh this Fri "with improved spring on new sedan" .... need half day to replaced ......

Questions:
1.  is current new lation facing same problem ?
2.  better for me to insist of changing to sport's spring ?
3.  is sport's spring really better or just sane sh*t ?

sianz .......
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on March 02, 2009, 10:22:12 PM
My shock absorber with stiffer spring
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Midnight on March 02, 2009, 10:46:22 PM
confuse confuse .....  :confused1:

on Mon, i check with TC-Lokyang, SA say possible to change a stiffer spring (as latio sports) upon assessment .....
today, i passby and walk-in to TC-Toapayoh, after assessment SA say my ride is 2006 (old spring) and OK to change to improved spring (same as in current new latio sedan) and that latio-sport's spring cant fit into sedan's .......

anyway, aldy make appt to had it replaced at TC-toapayoh this Fri "with improved spring on new sedan" .... need half day to replaced ......

Questions:
1.  is current new lation facing same problem ?
2.  better for me to insist of changing to sport's spring ?
3.  is sport's spring really better or just sane sh*t ?

sianz .......

Hi dude,

yr ride is 2006, under warranty, they allow u to change the spring for free?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Midnight on March 02, 2009, 10:49:31 PM
My shock absorber with stiffer spring

Hi arias,

thanks, i will try to compare yours with mine  :smile:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: pizzaboy on March 02, 2009, 11:45:44 PM
haha in this case every year can go back change new set until warranty expires... gd deal sibeh wu hua leh
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: pest11 on March 03, 2009, 07:40:30 PM
my ride is Sep'06 ........ therefore need to claim all parts before Sep'09 !!!!

Yes FOC .... double confirmed liao .... even service-slip indicate NC (No Charge) for scheduled Fri replacement .....

i will try take some pics as comparision .....
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: pest11 on March 04, 2009, 07:47:26 PM
hi all .... manage to get a slot today for replacement !! ..... 2hrs job !!

yes, ride is firmer .... no more "dip" over hump ..... no bottom-out when going up carpark ..... hope it last !!
but somehow the back seems higher (never measure), cos have the "sliding forward feeling" from the driver-seat ....
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: mindman on March 05, 2009, 09:08:56 AM
hi all .... manage to get a slot today for replacement !! ..... 2hrs job !!

yes, ride is firmer .... no more "dip" over hump ..... no bottom-out when going up carpark ..... hope it last !!
but somehow the back seems higher (never measure), cos have the "sliding forward feeling" from the driver-seat ....


 Just to find out if back seat passengers feel comfortable after the spring replacement
so the tow hook will not hit the curb if there are 3/ 4 persons in the rear seat ?
cheers 
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: pest11 on March 05, 2009, 09:46:32 AM
have not try sitting 3pax at rear yet .... last night only sit wife + kid, does not "dip" much over-hump and up-slope at MSCP no "bottom-out" liao .....
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: hermis on March 06, 2009, 12:17:50 AM
hi all, after reading so much abt the latio suspension problem by all owners here, i wish to share mine as well. My ride got this problem when u turn your steering, the front will have a very loud "tong" sound.after a few complains made to TCM, they assess that it is due to my front coil spring responsed slower when i turned, when caused the sound. ( wonder if any bro here experience this pro ) what tcm do was to take out my coil spring and re-position it. initially it was still fine, till recently it happen again and i go back complain and also about the rear soft suspension hitting the kerb. so tcm replace all my coil spring, both front and rear. till now, the front suspension still have the 'tong' sound but not so loud, maybe will go complain if i m free.okie the main thing about changing the front coil to so called the 'improve' version is my steering become abit heavier and harder to steer in a relax manner and the car look a bit weired now :ohmy:,looks like a SUV, cos my ride is on a 15" rim.will monitor a while and see how.wondering if my car is one of the odds to be batch problem. :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: maxngck on March 06, 2009, 07:10:57 AM
hi all, after reading so much abt the latio suspension problem by all owners here, i wish to share mine as well. My ride got this problem when u turn your steering, the front will have a very loud "tong" sound.after a few complains made to TCM, they assess that it is due to my front coil spring responsed slower when i turned, when caused the sound. ( wonder if any bro here experience this pro ) what tcm do was to take out my coil spring and re-position it. initially it was still fine, till recently it happen again and i go back complain and also about the rear soft suspension hitting the kerb. so tcm replace all my coil spring, both front and rear. till now, the front suspension still have the 'tong' sound but not so loud, maybe will go complain if i m free.okie the main thing about changing the front coil to so called the 'improve' version is my steering become abit heavier and harder to steer in a relax manner and the car look a bit weired now :ohmy:,looks like a SUV, cos my ride is on a 15" rim.will monitor a while and see how.wondering if my car is one of the odds to be batch problem. :confused1:

hi!

the 'tong' sound is it due to the steering coupling? i hv this before and after changing the coupling, it is ok liao. wah, suv......the spring lifted up the car so high har? can tk a picture and show to us?

thks
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on March 06, 2009, 11:44:30 AM
hi all, after reading so much abt the latio suspension problem by all owners here, i wish to share mine as well. My ride got this problem when u turn your steering, the front will have a very loud "tong" sound.after a few complains made to TCM, they assess that it is due to my front coil spring responsed slower when i turned, when caused the sound. ( wonder if any bro here experience this pro ) what tcm do was to take out my coil spring and re-position it. initially it was still fine, till recently it happen again and i go back complain and also about the rear soft suspension hitting the kerb. so tcm replace all my coil spring, both front and rear. till now, the front suspension still have the 'tong' sound but not so loud, maybe will go complain if i m free.okie the main thing about changing the front coil to so called the 'improve' version is my steering become abit heavier and harder to steer in a relax manner and the car look a bit weired now :ohmy:,looks like a SUV, cos my ride is on a 15" rim.will monitor a while and see how.wondering if my car is one of the odds to be batch problem. :confused1:

ya, thought the 'tong' sound is due to steering coupling. I have this soft 'tong tong' sound when turning, got the steering coupling changed and the noise is gone. But TCM never re-center my steering wheel..   :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: alangohek on March 09, 2009, 11:28:23 AM

Hi, which service center u went to? and which SA? Actually I was thinking install stiffener at first, after reading your story, think I will get TCS to change the rear spring to Japan version. So what did they changed? springs or absorbers ?
Hi Gone with the wind,

I just called TCM Bukit Timah. They denied such an arrangment and part exist. Can you share with me more details such as the name of the SA, service centre, etc? I have dropped a PM message to you.

I would like to see my rear suspension improved man.

Thanks v much in advance,
Alan
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: hermis on March 09, 2009, 03:38:22 PM
hi!

the 'tong' sound is it due to the steering coupling? i hv this before and after changing the coupling, it is ok liao. wah, suv......the spring lifted up the car so high har? can tk a picture and show to us?

thks
hi maxngck,it is not due to steering coupling.i have replaced the "new improve version" during my 30k servicing but the sound is still there. yes if u compare a normal original spring with mine, my front looks more lifted up hence a wider gap between the wheel and wheel arch..tempting to upsize to 17" to fill the gap :yehyeh: i will try to take a pix.. :smile:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: hermis on March 09, 2009, 03:45:34 PM
hi all, after reading so much abt the latio suspension problem by all owners here, i wish to share mine as well. My ride got this problem when u turn your steering, the front will have a very loud "tong" sound.after a few complains made to TCM, they assess that it is due to my front coil spring responsed slower when i turned, when caused the sound. ( wonder if any bro here experience this pro ) what tcm do was to take out my coil spring and re-position it. initially it was still fine, till recently it happen again and i go back complain and also about the rear soft suspension hitting the kerb. so tcm replace all my coil spring, both front and rear. till now, the front suspension still have the 'tong' sound but not so loud, maybe will go complain if i m free.okie the main thing about changing the front coil to so called the 'improve' version is my steering become abit heavier and harder to steer in a relax manner and the car look a bit weired now :ohmy:,looks like a SUV, cos my ride is on a 15" rim.will monitor a while and see how.wondering if my car is one of the odds to be batch problem. :confused1:
i have went back to tcm and let them further diagnose the problem, this time round they insulate with a rubber seat to the coil spring and the noise is gone :yehyeh: so far so good :bleh: according to them all models have this insulation on coil spring except LATIO and CEFIRO
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Gone with the wind on March 09, 2009, 05:21:19 PM
Alan,

You can try calling TCM service booking center, look for Pamela Koh.  Tell her your ride rear suspension is too soft, with three passengers, everytime hit the hump on the MSCP.  And you also learnt about TCM provided "renew rear coil spring"  for those with the problems.

You can also look for Stephen Ang at Bukit Timah service center.  If none of them want to help you, you then ask for their manager.  From the forum posting, there are already few bro changed their coil spring with TCM, so why not for you?

Good luck!

Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on March 09, 2009, 11:10:03 PM
Some more pic
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Ender on March 10, 2009, 12:23:26 AM
Thanks for the pic, but the gap between the wheel and arc is too wide..
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: alangohek on March 10, 2009, 09:35:49 AM

Guys who have managed to change the rear spring to the Japan version, may I check whether it will make the ride higher like what is shown in arias48's photo?

Alan,

You can try calling TCM service booking center, look for Pamela Koh.  Tell her your ride rear suspension is too soft, with three passengers, everytime hit the hump on the MSCP.  And you also learnt about TCM provided "renew rear coil spring"  for those with the problems.

You can also look for Stephen Ang at Bukit Timah service center.  If none of them want to help you, you then ask for their manager.  From the forum posting, there are already few bro changed their coil spring with TCM, so why not for you?

Good luck!


Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Silver on March 17, 2009, 01:03:08 PM
had the springs changed this morning

gap :
before - 4 fingers
after - 1 hand

observation - increased 2 cm clearance
 
the springs are firmer, so should be able to clear the kerbs and stops

had only driven about 6 km after the change

will monitor further as am travelling to the East Coast soon
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Toalson on March 18, 2009, 12:33:13 AM
had the springs changed this morning

gap :
before - 4 fingers
after - 1 hand

observation - increased 2 cm clearance
 
the springs are firmer, so should be able to clear the kerbs and stops

had only driven about 6 km after the change

will monitor further as am travelling to the East Coast soon

Wow that's a lot of difference, need to complain as I often get the rear scrapped on kerbs and before going up slope. Heart pain everytime I get it.  :(
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: maxngck on March 18, 2009, 07:12:06 AM
hi!

went to TCm BT for some chkup on my car last saturday. i ask the technician abt the stiffer spring that latio change. he told me actually that is not meant for latio 1 leh  :scared:. he ssaid that is for their 1.8l car. dunno how true is it  :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Jazz on March 18, 2009, 12:25:19 PM
hi!

went to TCm BT for some chkup on my car last saturday. i ask the technician abt the stiffer spring that latio change. he told me actually that is not meant for latio 1 leh  :scared:. he ssaid that is for their 1.8l car. dunno how true is it  :confused1:

Kena smoked again ? Nissan dun have 1.8L car leh.  :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Ender on March 18, 2009, 01:12:40 PM
Kena smoked again ? Nissan dun have 1.8L car leh.  :confused1:
Maybe the technician is referring to Versa or Tiida 1.8L in other countries. Possible they order the part number for those 1.8L to use in the replacement.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: maxngck on March 18, 2009, 01:20:31 PM
Kena smoked again ? Nissan dun have 1.8L car leh.  :confused1:

hi!

think i left out 1.8l AND ABOVE. i m oso not very sure. just asking to verify if it is suitable since it is jacking up our ride higher.

for my car, seldom got people sit behind except my tweety bird and pooh family :bleh:. so bottoming not really an issue to me lor. if got people sit behind, just ask them to go out 1st before i reverse into parking lot lor. actually i feel our car oridi quite high, changing the spring make it higher leaving a bigger gap between tyre. so at the moment, i think i will live with it lor  :pray:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: jliow on March 18, 2009, 09:22:51 PM
The gap so big make the car looks horrendous leh
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Ender on March 18, 2009, 10:29:35 PM
Agree th look of the wider gap is not acceptable. But it does ease the job of washing under the arch.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Jazz on March 18, 2009, 11:07:54 PM
Maybe the technician is referring to Versa or Tiida 1.8L in other countries. Possible they order the part number for those 1.8L to use in the replacement.

Oh, did not cross my mind thou.  :D
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: david1881 on March 19, 2009, 12:28:39 PM
To me, the gap is a bit too big.  Furthermore with higher center of gravity behind, tend to have more body roll during your cornering. 
But less likely for your exhaust to hit the kerb.....
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: alangohek on March 19, 2009, 09:34:07 PM
hi!

think i left out 1.8l AND ABOVE. i m oso not very sure. just asking to verify if it is suitable since it is jacking up our ride higher.

for my car, seldom got people sit behind except my tweety bird and pooh family :bleh:. so bottoming not really an issue to me lor. if got people sit behind, just ask them to go out 1st before i reverse into parking lot lor. actually i feel our car oridi quite high, changing the spring make it higher leaving a bigger gap between tyre. so at the moment, i think i will live with it lor  :pray:
I agree with you That will make our car looks ugly leh ... Won't want my car to be higher. Think I would just ask them to check my suspension during my next service to make sure no issues. Will just take the precaution lor ..
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: kenmaine1008 on March 21, 2009, 01:08:29 AM
eh sorry newbie here... may i know what problems you guys face with e soft suspension?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: mindman on March 21, 2009, 02:39:10 PM
eh sorry newbie here... may i know what problems you guys face with e soft suspension?

when 4 persons sit behind, it will lower down and caused the tow hook and the exhaust pipe to hit the curb when moving off or do parking
cheers
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: galatica on March 23, 2009, 11:39:55 AM
Just done my 5K servicing last Friday at Ubi. Asked the service engineer to change my suspension as well as fixed up the alarm unit. Car was sent for a suspension test. The test reported imbalances in the front and back suspensions as well as some medium waves. Result was that the suspensions were adjusted. Previously, I need to go over humps slowly (and I mean slow) else my undercarriage will get hit. Even a slight movement from my kid (who's only 28kg) on the backseat will rock the car. Much better after the adjustments. No need to slow down, no rocking, negotiating turns is still alright to me.

For those that got irritated with the soft suspension (like me) and wouldn't mind the increase gap between the wheel and body, should go to TCM and get it done.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: arias48 on March 23, 2009, 11:58:18 AM
Just done my 5K servicing last Friday at Ubi. Asked the service engineer to change my suspension as well as fixed up the alarm unit. Car was sent for a suspension test. The test reported imbalances in the front and back suspensions as well as some medium waves. Result was that the suspensions were adjusted. Previously, I need to go over humps slowly (and I mean slow) else my undercarriage will get hit. Even a slight movement from my kid (who's only 28kg) on the backseat will rock the car. Much better after the adjustments. No need to slow down, no rocking, negotiating turns is still alright to me.

For those that got irritated with the soft suspension (like me) and wouldn't mind the increase gap between the wheel and body, should go to TCM and get it done.

just curious, how they adjust?
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: pizzaboy on March 23, 2009, 01:10:35 PM
if those dat dun like the idea of changin to stiffer tcm springs thus makin ur ride lookin like a mixed breed of a SUV-DAN y not try addin on a spring stifferner to make the ride firmer & at the same time change ur muffler stifferner to better quality kind as our original rubber dat holds onto the muffler is way toooo soft, dats y everytime when u r carryin full load behind the exhaust tip tends to hit onto kerbs when parkin.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: galatica on March 23, 2009, 01:58:14 PM
just curious, how they adjust?

I read that the Latio's rear suspension is a Torsion bar? Maybe can change parts of it to raise or lower the height. Anyway, I was on a rush and didn't check with the engineer on what was done.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: kenmaine1008 on March 23, 2009, 08:07:49 PM
hmmm so far which option is the best?  :confused1:
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: kspchew on August 07, 2009, 02:14:09 PM
Apologies for digging up this old thread.
Just came back from AS after the 70k servicing, the mechanics informed that the front absorber is jammed and need replacement.

Any bros, kindly advice where can I get the shock absorber replaced other than TCM??
Thanks
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: Ender on August 07, 2009, 02:50:20 PM
AS didn't quote you how much?
You can try riverview, my colleague just change his suspension there. But his ride is a Vios, so call up and ask if they do it for Latio.
Title: Re: Latio Suspension advice? Bumpy ride
Post by: kspchew on August 07, 2009, 05:10:39 PM
Nope, AS say they do not carry Latio shock absorbers.
Thanks for the info.