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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: nakshire on September 18, 2009, 03:09:22 PM
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Hi guys,
I see that most lations here are experiencing good FC ranging from 13-15km/l
I've tried the following methods:
A/C to 23degrees, sometimes dun switch on.
Light footed, i seldom go past 2000rpm unless on expressway... abt 2200 to 2500 max.
Changed my petrol to CAltex 92.
Apparently i'm still getting a pathetic 11.4km/l.
I've not tried checking pressure of tyre, or do anything to it. Dun dare to.
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Hi guys,
I see that most lations here are experiencing good FC ranging from 13-15km/l
I've tried the following methods:
A/C to 23degrees, sometimes dun switch on.
Light footed, i seldom go past 2000rpm unless on expressway... abt 2200 to 2500 max.
Changed my petrol to CAltex 92.
Apparently i'm still getting a pathetic 11.4km/l.
I've not tried checking pressure of tyre, or do anything to it. Dun dare to.
I am not so sure if changing the petrol to 92 will work....I still pump 95 and I check my tyre pressure regularly at least once a month and it definitely helps...before, I never check my tyre pressure at all and I got below 13km/l no matter how hard I tried...after i check and pump my tyre pressure regularly...it is easy to get 13.5km/l consistently....sometimes i even get it to 14km/l....also, if your car boot is full of stuff, the added weight does makes a different as well....is your car always full passenger capacity? This affects your FC as well...hope this helps... ;D
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Hi,
You may need Mobil 5000, i tried serveral brands of Petrol (Shell, SPC, Caltex and Mobil 5000 seems to be the best FC for my Latio Sport with 16inch tyres ava about 13km/l.
Running on 92octane petrol while cheap also is makes my Latio less powerful which results in a heavier foot to achieve what i am use to.
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I've not tried checking pressure of tyre, or do anything to it. Dun dare to.
How come you don't dare to check tyre pressure huh? Scared the tyre explode ar?! :D
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There are many factors affecting FC.
Is yr car entirely stock? coz most of the latians here have changed their stock tyres and rims .(Generally Heavier)
Assuming yr ride is on stock , if u pump 92, yr FC will b affected becoz it is 'underpowered'.
Tyre Pressure is actually a critical factor in determining yr FC.
Under-Inflated Tyres consume alot of fuel.
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my one >>> only mod is spark bridge>> tires is 15" stock, 50% HW and CT..
i pump my tires everytime i go top up my petrol
but i getting only 11 to 12km/l for my FC niah.......
i wonder y ..
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How come you don't dare to check tyre pressure huh? Scared the tyre explode ar?! :D
HAHHA bingo!! ::)
Actually not so true lah, because the previous time i went for servicing TCM told me that all my tyres are worn out.... and i din want to change because my dad says its still working fine.
So now i dun dare to pump, scared later more pressure the tyres less contact with ground = more chance to skid. (considering that i always drive at 100km/hr at the CTE YCK -> Yishun bend daily in the morning to work)
Whats the advisable pump? Seriously I'm a new new new noob driver, dunno how to check tyre pressure also...
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Nakshire,
Just to share with you...
Use a W30 engine oil.
Latio default tire pressure is 230 (front), 210 (back). I pump 245 (front) and 225 (back) when the tire is hot, after driving for some 30km.
I use Caltex 95 with Techron for like few months, i believe the Techron has cleansing effect. Got good mileage, but recently switch to Esso Mobil because more discount.
Do not brake unnecessary, when approaching traffic light, let go accelerator for car to slow car a fair bit and then apply foot brake lightly to bring car to stop. Becareful not to overdo this if not u will be road hogging.
SPORTS mode - i think it consume lots of petrol... refrain from using it unless absolutely necessary.
Try it for a few tanks of caltex and see if it helps !
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Nakshire,
Just to share with you...
Use a W30 engine oil.
Latio default tire pressure is 230 (front), 210 (back). I pump 245 (front) and 225 (back) when the tire is hot, after driving for some 30km.
I use Caltex 95 with Techron for like few months, i believe the Techron has cleansing effect. Got good mileage, but recently switch to Esso Mobil because more discount.
Do not brake unnecessary, when approaching traffic light, let go accelerator for car to slow car a fair bit and then apply foot brake lightly to bring car to stop. Becareful not to overdo this if not u will be road hogging.
SPORTS mode - i think it consume lots of petrol... refrain from using it unless absolutely necessary.
Try it for a few tanks of caltex and see if it helps !
Sorry but to ask what is a W30 oil?
I'm doing the let go accelerator thing... not an issue over here if i were to emphasize on it...
Budden how to check the tyre pressure?
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check tire pressure by using the pressure gauge at patrol station..set at the recommended lvl and pump till it full....
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check tire pressure by using the pressure gauge at patrol station..set at the recommended lvl and pump till it full....
okiedokies, thanks man!
are there anything that i shd take note of to increase FC?
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HAHHA bingo!! ::)
Actually not so true lah, because the previous time i went for servicing TCM told me that all my tyres are worn out.... and i din want to change because my dad says its still working fine.
So now i dun dare to pump, scared later more pressure the tyres less contact with ground = more chance to skid. (considering that i always drive at 100km/hr at the CTE YCK -> Yishun bend daily in the morning to work)
Whats the advisable pump? Seriously I'm a new new new noob driver, dunno how to check tyre pressure also...
Juz need to follow the standard pressure... will not skid one... unless the tyre u see are really going botak... tyre pressure has big impact on fc... if u see the thread of tyre cannot make it better change... dangerous on rainy day at YCK bend... haha... your dad say can i think can lah... TCM always warn ppl very early when still can use... believe your own eyes can liao
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Sorry but to ask what is a W30 oil?
I'm doing the let go accelerator thing... not an issue over here if i were to emphasize on it...
Budden how to check the tyre pressure?
W30 is the engine oil tat u change during servicing... eg Redline 5W30, Amsoil 0W30, etc... many brands
http://www.mxtradings.com/
Click the link above to see more abt brands
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my one >>> only mod is spark bridge>> tires is 15" stock, 50% HW and CT..
i pump my tires everytime i go top up my petrol
but i getting only 11 to 12km/l for my FC niah.......
i wonder y ..
Lots of reason. short trips, start stop traffic, parking in open air car park. My milage drop by about 5 to 10% after I used the park and ride scheme.
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Guys I just went to get my tyres done up.
Initial pressure was stated to be at 135kPa, wtf. I thought my tyres are not stock tyres, during pumping i thought 230kPa was a mistake.
Even the uncle also say (honda civic) "wah, u sure or not, mine only 220, yours is 230?"
then he helped me check, really 230kPa.
Now my steering not so hard liao... the car also feel like its chionging... hahaha
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my FC after 1K servicing is relatively bad too.. wonder if this is normal? :confused1:
i supposed have to wait till 5K then gauge... need to bear with the FC :crycry:
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Guys I just went to get my tyres done up.
Initial pressure was stated to be at 135kPa, wtf. I thought my tyres are not stock tyres, during pumping i thought 230kPa was a mistake.
Even the uncle also say (honda civic) "wah, u sure or not, mine only 220, yours is 230?"
then he helped me check, really 230kPa.
Now my steering not so hard liao... the car also feel like its chionging... hahaha
135 is really really .. underinflated.. considering the fact tat we were supposed to be 230 front 210 rear .. if my memory serves me right..
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Hi,
Just to share my view.
I am pumping on esso 5000 and i am getting about 12.5 to 14.5 ( max).
Front tyre 240 back 230.
When i pump esso 8000 i am getter lower mileage.
About 11 to 12km/l.
To me if i pump better grade petrol = lower fc.
So i decided to switch to esso 5000.
And i have try this for many tanks.
It proven true to me.
Higher grade petrol = lower fc
:smile:
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Hi,
Just to share my view.
I am pumping on esso 5000 and i am getting about 12.5 to 14.5 ( max).
Front tyre 240 back 230.
When i pump esso 8000 i am getter lower mileage.
About 11 to 12km/l.
To me if i pump better grade petrol = lower fc.
So i decided to switch to esso 5000.
And i have try this for many tanks.
It proven true to me.
Higher grade petrol = lower fc
:smile:
i'm not sure about esso, but shell V power vs other shell petrol is also like that. From what i read from other threads, V power will tend to be 'consumed more' because they are used for power....
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my FC after 1K servicing is relatively bad too.. wonder if this is normal? :confused1:
i supposed have to wait till 5K then gauge... need to bear with the FC :crycry:
i'll be doing another FC lookout for my car after this pumping of tyres thing...
Currently with 135kPa tyres i'm able to run at 11km/l, mileage 36000km.
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Hi,
I think it better to pump 95 grade to acheive better mileage.
We can save the money from using better grade petrol, to do engine flushing about $50 to $80.
I think this will prolong the engine life and performance.
I personally think that if we can hit aversge of 13 to 14km on our Latio.
It consider good. :thumbsup:
Jazz can hit average of 15 to 16km, given the engine cc and brand.
So just enjoy our rideon Latio!!!!!!!!!
Regards
Alex
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Hi,
Just to share my view.
I am pumping on esso 5000 and i am getting about 12.5 to 14.5 ( max).
Front tyre 240 back 230.
When i pump esso 8000 i am getter lower mileage.
About 11 to 12km/l.
To me if i pump better grade petrol = lower fc.
So i decided to switch to esso 5000.
And i have try this for many tanks.
It proven true to me.
Higher grade petrol = lower fc
:smile:
Are you trying to say higher grade petrol = poorer FC ?
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Are you trying to say higher grade petrol = poorer FC ?
i believe he meant better fc or lower fuel consumption
coz i get better fc after chging back to 98,...
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Hi,
Yes! what i meant is 98 = lower mileage.
95 = higher mileage.
This only in my point of view and experiance only.
May be due to the higer grade.
Better grade = better power = burn more fuel.
There alway a pro and con in every thing.
No such thing as high power car with good fc.
Anyway just enjoy our latio :thumbsup:
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i believe he meant better fc or lower fuel consumption
coz i get better fc after chging back to 98,...
Hi,
This is how I interpret his message unless he really typo.
I am pumping on esso 5000 and i am getting about 12.5 to 14.5 ( max).
Front tyre 240 back 230.
When i pump esso 8000 i am getter lower mileage.
About 11 to 12km/l.
8000 is premium than 5000 but getting FC of 12km/l while 5000 can gave him min 12.5km/l. So does he meant higher grade petrol = poorer FC ? Lower FC mean better FC.
Many drivers confused this FC term.
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I used to pump Caltex Ron95 and change to Caltex Ron92 once Caltex reinstate it.
TO me, other than draggy engine, the FC doesnt make any difference. I averagely able to hit 13.4 - 14km per litre.
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8000 is premium than 5000 but getting FC of 12km/l while 5000 can gave him min 12.5km/l. So does he meant higher grade petrol = poorer FC ? Lower FC mean better FC.
Many drivers confused this FC term.
i believe for FC discussion >> Just stick to the math >> FC = Total Dist travelled/ Total fuel used..
dont look at the "feel" of ur driving
Sometimes ron92 give better FC as compare to ron95... (although ron95 or 98 might have better power)
for me>>>
ron 92 and 95 >> FC is quite close >> 11km/l to 12km/l
overall not much difference so might as well wack 92>> save $$
but once a month i will wack ron 98/95 for a tank
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Hi,
Yes! what i meant is 98 = lower mileage.
95 = higher mileage.
This only in my point of view and experiance only.
May be due to the higer grade.
Better grade = better power = burn more fuel.
There alway a pro and con in every thing.
No such thing as high power car with good fc.
Anyway just enjoy our latio :thumbsup:
O.K, I not arguing but you are confusing with your FC term.
From what I interpret you are trying to say higher grade of petrol = poorer FC due to 98 give you lower mileage while 95 provides you more mileage right ? And truly understand this is based on your own observation.
What I trying to correct you your previous message is that you stated higher grade petrol = lower FC which is directly opposite or contradict of what your message is.
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i believe for FC discussion >> Just stick to the math >> FC = Total Dist travelled/ Total fuel used..
dont look at the "feel" of ur driving
Sometimes ron92 give better FC as compare to ron95... (although ron95 or 98 might have better power)
for me>>>
ron 92 and 95 >> FC is quite close >> 11km/l to 12km/l
overall not much difference so might as well wack 92>> save $$
but once a month i will wack ron 98/95 for a tank
Yep. ;)
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anyone tried mixing rons? lol
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anyone tried mixing rons? lol
u means mixed 92/95 , 92/ 98 or 95/98
cheers
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u means mixed 92/95 , 92/ 98 or 95/98
cheers
i was thinking maybe shell95 with caltex 92.. heh ;D
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ya ya, i ever tried mixed with 4 different type of petrol, 1st is Mobil, than Esso, follow by Shell, lastly tried SPC, end up I really MESS up my petrol.... :bleh: :bleh:
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hey i heard of this b4 but havent tried,... full tank 95,..drive around until drop to 3/4 ( very fast for my car at least ) then top up 98,..kekekke,...
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anyone tried mixing rons? lol
Should be no problem ...... I used to top up Caltex 95 but will top up Vpower when there offer.
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Hi,
Relax my friend.
As long as understand can already.
Don make life so hard la.
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anyone tried mixing rons? lol
Singapore F1 sling = Vpower 10L + Esso 98 10L + caltex 92 10L + SPC 95 10L :bleh:
Yah I mix Malaysia 97 with singapore 95 or 92. just pump when I need to.
hey... some say petrol is the same except the additive they put in, if you pump 98, why not pump 92 and add those ~$2 small bottle petrol additive. I remember the last time I pour fuel system cleaning agent one tank before my servicing the car very power compare to normal days.
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hi guys, need to check on my FC too..
After 1st 1K servicing, my FC dropped to 10~11km/L.
Is it normal?
During the 1st 1K, my FC is about 12 to 14km/L :yehyeh:
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Singapore F1 sling = Vpower 10L + Esso 98 10L + caltex 92 10L + SPC 95 10L :bleh:
Yah I mix Malaysia 97 with singapore 95 or 92. just pump when I need to.
hey... some say petrol is the same except the additive they put in, if you pump 98, why not pump 92 and add those ~$2 small bottle petrol additive. I remember the last time I pour fuel system cleaning agent one tank before my servicing the car very power compare to normal days.
wah where do u get those kind of additive? Will spoil engine one or not?
Anyway, i'm on my 3rd tank of Caltex 92 now, pumped tyres up to recommended pressure midway, the FC rating rose from 11km/l to 13.9km/l.
SHIOK!!!
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petrol sation (I only know about esso station) and supermarket have a few type od additive, some one also selling in the forum.
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petrol sation (I only know about esso station) and supermarket have a few type od additive, some one also selling in the forum.
so far my experience with additive >> not worth using as it is troublesome and the increase in FC is not much :crycry:
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so far my experience with additive >> not worth using as it is troublesome and the increase in FC is not much :crycry:
From what I know about additives is that they only help you to clean your engine while burning and does not help us improve FC in any case...
Perhaps the additives are there to improve performance of our rides... correct me if i'm wrong, anyone?
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i recently pumped my tires to 280 front and 160 back..
i noticed my fc improve a lot for the last 2 tanks.. 14.3 and 15.1 km/l . ;D
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Really improve fc ar with the correct tyre pressure?
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i recently pumped my tires to 280 front and 160 back..
i noticed my fc improve a lot for the last 2 tanks.. 14.3 and 15.1 km/l . ;D
waseh, 280kPa will be very dangerous for cornering isn't it?
i thinking pumping to the recommended one should be ok... what are the people's opinion abt this? I seriously think its a lil dangerous for 280...
Really improve fc ar with the correct tyre pressure?
Yes, with the correct pressure, my FC is much much better compared to the previous under-inflated tyre. now its running near 14km/l
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I only use fuel system cleaning additive once just before my 40k servicing. I feel the car is much more responsive for the tank mix with the solution. I did not monitor FC anymore as my driving pattern is very extreme, 8~9km/l is normal to me but one tank can last 3 weeks.
I know using Vpower(98) will not have better FC reading than using Esso 95. ECU tuning should improve FC a bit.
I just start to use a GPS, after a few daily trips, the trip data shows I idle 25% of my total driving time. Imo planing the route with less traffic light and avoid traffic jams is what we can do to improve FC. My overall average speed is only 32.8kph :ohmy:
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the additive is add inside the fuel tank one ah
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Newest update of my car performance.
Previous: tyre @ 135kPa, 115kPa = 11km/l
NOW,
tyre @ 235kPa, 215kPa = 15.66667km/l
Driving style: 70% HW, 30% city. light-footed, morning journeys to work = no aircon.
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Newest update of my car performance.
Previous: tyre @ 135kPa, 115kPa = 11km/l
NOW,
tyre @ 235kPa, 215kPa = 15.66667km/l
Driving style: 70% HW, 30% city. light-footed, morning journeys to work = no aircon.
Your tyre Stock or what? 135 KPA is like so heavy on steering u know..
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Your tyre Stock or what? 135 KPA is like so heavy on steering u know..
yeah man, its stock. Its really really heavy steering.
Car was previously driven by my sister. I didn't know she really bochup until like that
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the additive is add inside the fuel tank one ah
yah
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weird, after i put in the additive the car din really perform as much more as what i thought it would be. On the contrary, FC went up by a lot.
it used to run at 13-15km/l, now its running at 10.3 for 2 tanks already.
the additive i used is STP. Is there anything that i did wrongly... hmmm
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weird, after i put in the additive the car din really perform as much more as what i thought it would be. On the contrary, FC went up by a lot.
it used to run at 13-15km/l, now its running at 10.3 for 2 tanks already.
the additive i used is STP. Is there anything that i did wrongly... hmmm
u bought the stp octance booster or fuel system cleaner ?
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Newest update of my car performance.
Previous: tyre @ 135kPa, 115kPa = 11km/l
NOW,
tyre @ 235kPa, 215kPa = 15.66667km/l
Driving style: 70% HW, 30% city. light-footed, morning journeys to work = no aircon.
How long u did'nt pump your tyres ???
cheers
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How long u did'nt pump your tyres ???
cheers
3 years, not sure whether during servicing they got or not... if they did help us pump, its 6 months!
u bought the stp octance booster or fuel system cleaner ?
I got the fuel system cleaner... whats up with the 2?
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Wah...if your tyres is 3 yrs old and was under-inflated for long period it might be damaged or bruised internally within the tyres oredi...
I suggest you seriously consider changing it soon with the rainy monsoon coming...we shouldn't skimp on tyres...
After spending the $50+K our family lives basically depends on just that 4 shoes pads to stop a car at 90Km/hr...
I remembered my Toyo tires skidding after about 20k km on the PIE under rain at 80km/hr.
Fortunately the car in front was several car lengths as i am basically a safe driver (i.e., my FC is at 15km/L)
Good tyres grip is not a luxury...it is an insurance for your safety.
I don't like to throwing money on insurance - but i know my family needed them.
Just look at the extreme - the horiffic crashes at NSH due to burst tyres...so many lives lost.
OK, take care now...
3 years, not sure whether during servicing they got or not... if they did help us pump, its 6 months!
I got the fuel system cleaner... whats up with the 2?
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Your right foot pressure on the accelerator is very important.
I'm using the flasflo EO from TCM and I always prefer to pump 20L, instead of full tank. Tyre pressure is around 245 (front) and 225 (back). I can achieve close to 17km/l or 330 - 350km before the fuel tank empty light lid up
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Your right foot pressure on the accelerator is very important.
I'm using the flasflo EO from TCM and I always prefer to pump 20L, instead of full tank. Tyre pressure is around 245 (front) and 225 (back). I can achieve close to 17km/l or 330 - 350km before the fuel tank empty light lid up
thats awesome-ness.
u pump so high eh? i just changed my tyres to hankook tyres, dunno what model... but its the 195/65 one... can pump that high?