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Offline jliow

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Gear Shift problem
« on: October 09, 2008, 11:56:58 PM »
Not sure any bros or sis can advise on the scenario

For some reasons, sometimes when parking car, I find shifting the stick from D to P like got something jam or got to push hard

Then from P to D, or even to R, the gear I have to pull back really hard and the shift sound really loud.

AT first I thought my brake padels not steped hard enough but confirm its not causing it, coz same problem when step the brake padel really hard

But these does not happen ALL the time, only occasionally, but getting frequent.

Any one can tell me whats wrong?

My mileage only 15K

Offline lonhong

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2008, 12:30:47 AM »
i was advised by tan chong's mechanic when i went for the first servicing last week that got to wait a little while for rpm to subside b4 shifting... mabe can try this out...

Offline burnolise

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2008, 08:56:58 AM »
Mine also got this problem very occasionally......i dun really bother...cos' i have driven other cars tat has similar problem...i tot it is normal...
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Offline alangohek

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2008, 09:02:39 AM »
Mine also got this "problem". But it happens only when my car is not parked on a flat ground.

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2008, 09:33:56 AM »
I read from other car forums or maybe this forum.

2 steps:
When parking the car, first push to N, apply hand break (foot break for our latio), release break.
Step on break again, and push gear to P.  Then off engine.

This is to ensure no stress for the transmission gears due to uneven surface or slopes.  So when next time start engine, you can shift the gear from P to D more smoothly.

I usually off engine when in N.  Just quickly step on break then push gear to P.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2008, 09:42:59 AM by rongshu »

Offline Ying

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2008, 10:24:06 AM »
I read from other car forums or maybe this forum.

2 steps:
When parking the car, first push to N, apply hand break (foot break for our latio), release break.
Step on break again, and push gear to P.  Then off engine.

This is to ensure no stress for the transmission gears due to uneven surface or slopes.  So when next time start engine, you can shift the gear from P to D more smoothly.

I usually off engine when in N.  Just quickly step on break then push gear to P.

then you get the alarm sound when you off engine for "Gear not in P" every time you park your car?

Offline burnolise

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2008, 10:31:54 AM »
then you get the alarm sound when you off engine for "Gear not in P" every time you park your car?

Dun think the alarm will sound off in this case...there was a few occasion i switch off engine with the gear not in P....alarm did not sound off...except tat i can't start the engine again until i shift the gear to P....
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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2008, 10:35:03 AM »
then you get the alarm sound when you off engine for "Gear not in P" every time you park your car?

I didn't remember any alarm sound for so many months of doing this.

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2008, 10:44:58 AM »
The main idea is to apply hand brake in gear N.  So that the car is completed stopped before shifting gear to P.  It doesn't matter if you off engine in N or P. 

Any roll back or movement of the car will cause stress on the gear.

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2008, 10:49:31 AM »
The main idea is to apply hand brake in gear N.  So that the car is completed stopped before shifting gear to P.  It doesn't matter if you off engine in N or P. 

Any roll back or movement of the car will cause stress on the gear.

Dun worry so much lar....jus enjoy ur ride...think of it this way...if there is no wear & tear...then there will be no excuse to change car after 2-3 years right? Imagine ur car is in tip top condition in terms of appearance and engine wise....then u see other cars newer with more chio outlook...then u look at ur tip top old model latio...signing tat the condition too good to sell it....haha......my way of using things........:bleh: :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2008, 11:13:49 AM »
You are right if you want to change car every 2~3 year but a change of small habit can protect the car better for those who want to use the car longer. 

hmm... I remember my car did  "reminded" me when I off the engine while my gear is in N. Will try it again later.

Offline jliow

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2008, 12:02:15 PM »
Just feel if the condition persists, the car cannot last long, not all people are like minded to want to change car that often.

for the first 6 mnths don't have this problem, even have also i realise I did not step brake hard enough. The feel is so bad sometimes I feel the shift stick might break kind of feeling....

Just wanna know if others having latio is having this same issue

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2008, 12:07:49 PM »
for me, if i switch off engine but gear not in "P", the alarm will goes off and I can't even
turn the ignition switch fully to OFF.

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2008, 12:26:05 PM »
I've the same problem too, everytime when shift from P -> D, must really pull harder to get the stick down from P to D, even with the break fully pressed.  The feeling is like I'm going to break the gear stick.  ;D  No problem from D -> P.

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2008, 12:29:22 PM »
for me, if i switch off engine but gear not in "P", the alarm will goes off and I can't even
turn the ignition switch fully to OFF.
A workaround will be to engage the foot brake, change the gear to "N", turn off the engine, change to "P" then turn the ignition switch completely to off.

Let us know whether that works =)

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2008, 01:09:00 PM »
A workaround will be to engage the foot brake, change the gear to "N", turn off the engine, change to "P" then turn the ignition switch completely to off.

Let us know whether that works =)

thanks..whenever i hear the alarm after engine off, I know i'm not in "P" gear...the alarm will juz keep beeping until i hv engaged "P"
and turn switch completely off..this is a safety feature for all auto cars right ?

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2008, 01:43:55 PM »
I've the same problem too, everytime when shift from P -> D, must really pull harder to get the stick down from P to D, even with the break fully pressed.  The feeling is like I'm going to break the gear stick.  ;D  No problem from D -> P.

I assumed you did press the unlock button with your thumb when you shift P->D right? it is a safety feature to warn drive the car is going to move off and look around you for other people or car before you drive, simple logic but there was tragic. D->P dun need to warn the driver if you are parked so no lock.
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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2008, 01:45:21 PM »
thanks..whenever i hear the alarm after engine off, I know i'm not in "P" gear...the alarm will juz keep beeping until i hv engaged "P"
and turn switch completely off..this is a safety feature for all auto cars right ?

same as mine

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2008, 09:30:38 AM »
for the alarm sound, it won't sound if you just switch off engine.  The ignition switch should be at ACC position.

it only sounds if you try to switch from ACC position to Lock.

So if in gear N and you switch off the engine and continue turning the switch to Lock, you will hear the alarm sound.  But if you just switch off the engine and it remains at ACC, there won't be alarm.

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Re: Gear Shift problem
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2008, 12:39:34 PM »
Ok this one is quite hard to explain, must visualize.

When u put to park, some of the teeth of some gear will lock into another gear's slot. So when you park on slope and put to D and release brake, you will feel the car roll abit before the teeth locks the car into a stationary position. So when you release from P next time, its harder to pull because the weight of the cars are on the teeth.

Solution is to put to N, engage  parking brake(use leg for latio one), release your foot brake(the one you use to brake normally), den change gear to P.

Check this page out for more info.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission5.htm