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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: karkadyz on June 17, 2008, 09:51:29 AM
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Is it worth it to sign up for TCM NPMP package of S$1,019? They said the price will be up soon. They said we don't need to change spark plug until 100,000 km and no need to change timing belt at all. They will change (for FOC) brake pads (front: S$114; rear: S$88) and drive beltings & pulley bearing (S$100). Is it worth it? How much to do those outside since major parts no need to change (timing belt & spark plug).
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Is it worth it to sign up for TCM NPMP package of S$1,019? They said the price will be up soon. They said we don't need to change spark plug until 100,000 km and no need to change timing belt at all. They will change (for FOC) brake pads (front: S$114; rear: S$88) and drive beltings & pulley bearing (S$100). Is it worth it? How much to do those outside since major parts no need to change (timing belt & spark plug).
Huh? They sure or not? Timing belt no need to change at all?
The only reason that I would get the NPMP package is becos of the huge parts tht needs to be replaced.
Timing belt itself cost > $400.
Front brake pad abt $80 can get.
Back pad: Seldom change .... my fren 4 yrs car of 70K milege also never change them.
The rest I'm not sure.
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Huh? They sure or not? Timing belt no need to change at all?
The only reason that I would get the NPMP package is becos of the huge parts tht needs to be replaced.
Timing belt itself cost > $400.
Front brake pad abt $80 can get.
Back pad: Seldom change .... my fren 4 yrs car of 70K milege also never change them.
The rest I'm not sure.
The guy said latio use chain type so no need to change the timing belt
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latio use timing chain. not like timing belt the chain is more expensive to manufacture but usually last very long. over time the chain get noisy but belt is more silent. if you hear weird rattling noise from the engine it is likely the chain. get it checked.
belt is subject to cracking fraying and eventually it might snap, so belt cars although cheap to make but in the long run the maintenance cost will add up.
100,000 km is abit ... :scared:
i think just go some workshop change new sparks when you see your FC dropping despite normal driving and regular oil change..
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TCM's NPMP Package is worth it :thumbsup:
But mine is OPC, so chose to opt out as I doubt can hit 50k in 2.5yrs.
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Our Timing chain can lost very long as you can see there is seldon a sudden surge of power in most of our driving and there should be auto adjusters in our engine so it will be very long before you'll be able to hear any noise from our timing chain. I only know that the alternator/aircon belt will need changing by 80K, Brakes pads, think you'll be able to get better graded pads outside.
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Generally my opinion is that when u use the services from TC, u r paying definitely more for the assurance, quality and warranty. Other than that, u will choose outside job only to save some money as it is definitely cheaper. So u consider urself, which is your priority or wat u wan.. simple as that.. :)
I hv been on NPMP since day 1 till nw (my mileage is ~ 116K).. happy with it, as no nd to worry at all.
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i hv the std 3 free servicing from TCM (1k, 5k, and 10k) so if i want to sign up for the 2-years NPMP package, it will
be after the 10k free servicing ?
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i hv the std 3 free servicing from TCM (1k, 5k, and 10k) so if i want to sign up for the 2-years NPMP package, it will
be after the 10k free servicing ?
Yes,.. but b4 that, on ur final 10K free service, u nd to consider if u wan to use Fully synthetic oil (u nd to pay xtra n the next service will b 20K then), or the normal free mineral oil (then ur next service wil b 15K). Advisable to switch to Fully Syn Oil, then u dont hv to go servicing so often (take up ur time).
The NPMP is based on Fully syn oil, so ur NPMP will cover every 10K (or 6 mths whichever earlier). If u intend to use Fully Syn oil during ur 10K servicing, then u can pay/choose the NPMP when u do ur 20K servicing.
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Does the NPMP include the aircon filter?
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Does the NPMP include the aircon filter?
Hmm, not sure leh, don know mine was changed b4 or not, mayb wil ask during next servicing..
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hi all.. for the aircon filters, in case u not aware of, i am getting a mass order of OEM grade aircon filter for latio at only $18 each.. hopefully to get all ur orders b4 end-june..
is very reasonable price coz i believe TCM is charging at least $60 each, and is exactly the same.
no point letting them earn so much; the aircon filter can easily be changed by mechanic during servicing without extra cost ..
do let me know if u interested.. details in MO section..
rgds
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hi all.. for the aircon filters, in case u not aware of, i am getting a mass order of OEM grade aircon filter for latio at only $18 each.. hopefully to get all ur orders b4 end-june..
is very reasonable price coz i believe TCM is charging at least $60 each, and is exactly the same.
no point letting them earn so much; the aircon filter can easily be changed by mechanic during servicing without extra cost ..
do let me know if u interested.. details in MO section..
rgds
so gd ah?
not cheong one hor?
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according to nissan website, the package is still at $1019.00...i'll be going for my 10k servicing
next mth so shld be signing up the package at the same time...must i pay the package price
when I sign up or pay only when NPMP starts servicing at 20k?
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Does the NPMP include the aircon filter?
Aircon filter not included.
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TCM's NPMP Package is worth it :thumbsup:
But mine is OPC, so chose to opt out as I doubt can hit 50k in 2.5yrs.
Engine oil got life limit even if car just sitting around that's why service interval is 6 months or 10,000km. So for NPMP, the coverage is only for 2 years (4 servicing). Stretch abit maybe 2.5 years for really low mileage.
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according to nissan website, the package is still at $1019.00...i'll be going for my 10k servicing
next mth so shld be signing up the package at the same time...must i pay the package price
when I sign up or pay only when NPMP starts servicing at 20k?
You can only pay during the servicing to start the NPMP. I tried to renew during my last servicing in May but they say cannot. :(
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did my 40K servicing with the NPMP, change some item base on service package C. New air filter but they only took out and clean the air con filter, asked if they can change a new one for me. can....S$75. Since I am nebbie owner so I sign up the plan while I learn more about my car. If you add another $99 for the emergency service package, you get a $50 voucher + one session of engine refresh.
I have question about the CVT fluid. my manual stated there are two type of CVT oil. NS-1 (change @ 60k interval) and NS-2 (Change @100k interval). It also stated if using NS-2, should stick to NS-2. My car came with NS-2 but they say can change to NS-1 at 60k service, what do you think? btw, CVT oil is included in my package.
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so gd ah?
not cheong one hor?
Bought my aircon filter from JoyRob, fiddled & learnt to change it by myself....quite easy to do it... :thumbsup:
btw my prev aircon filter used for abt 1.5yrs, rather dirty! Don't know if TCM actually cleans my filter during last servicing... :crying:
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Is it worth it to sign up for TCM NPMP package of S$1,019? They said the price will be up soon. They said we don't need to change spark plug until 100,000 km and no need to change timing belt at all. They will change (for FOC) brake pads (front: S$114; rear: S$88) and drive beltings & pulley bearing (S$100). Is it worth it? How much to do those outside since major parts no need to change (timing belt & spark plug).
I signed up my NPMP package during my 3rd free servicing, i.e. start from 20k km...personally feel that the package covers the warranty especially for the 1st three years...so signed the package...but might switch to outside merchanic after 60k km since warranty over... :cool2:
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I signed up my NPMP package during my 3rd free servicing, i.e. start from 20k km...
so u pay for the NPMP package when u signed up during the 3rd free servicing or pay when u go for yr 20k servicing ?
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so u pay for the NPMP package when u signed up during the 3rd free servicing or pay when u go for yr 20k servicing ?
Hi Bro,
I've checked my receipt to confirm, signed up and paid during my 20k km servicing...at that time was $989...now i think $increases... :blink:
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Hi Bro,
I've checked my receipt to confirm, signed up and paid during my 20k km servicing...at that time was $989...now i think $increases... :blink:
hmm just want to find out >>so all in all, is it good to have the NPMP program?? or just service outside (reliable mechanics)?
currently i was given a quite good NPMP package by my SE when i bought the car >> 7 times free services from 1000km onwards
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For NPMP package, you actualy get 4 free servicing, at 20K, 30K, 40K and 50K km.
1K, 5K and 10K km servicing are free even if you do not take up NPMP package.
I am also considering NPMP package but what I don't like is the Superflo synthetic engine oil used by Tan Chong which I heard from many feedback, that it is not so good.
Anyone knows where this Tan Chong in-house brand Superflo engine oil comes from?
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For NPMP package, you actualy get 4 free servicing, at 20K, 30K, 40K and 50K km.
1K, 5K and 10K km servicing are free even if you do not take up NPMP package.
I am also considering NPMP package but what I don't like is the Superflo synthetic engine oil used by Tan Chong which I heard from many feedback, that it is not so good.
Anyone knows where this Tan Chong in-house brand Superflo engine oil comes from?
TCM use Fastflo and Shogun EO. :smile:
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If this plan come with 0% credit card Installement plan for 12/18/24 month
I think Most of the Owner will apply for the Plan :thumbsup:
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TCM use Fastflo and Shogun EO. :smile:
hmmm how do they charge for these 2 oil?? Even with free servicing, also must pay??
these 2 brands are Fully synthetic?
What are their feedbacks??? i heard Fastflo quite bad rite??
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hmmm how do they charge for these 2 oil?? Even with free servicing, also must pay??
these 2 brands are Fully synthetic?
What are their feedbacks??? i heard Fastflo quite bad rite??
For our initial 3 free servicing, they are just using mineral oil only. We have to pay if using synthetic oil, nothing is free. :smile:
No comment as I have not used FastFlo or Shogun oil before. But Shogun is not cheap. :smile:
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For our initial 3 free servicing, they are just using mineral oil only. We have to pay if using synthetic oil, nothing is free. :smile:
No comment as I have not used FastFlo or Shogun oil before. But Shogun is not cheap. :smile:
hmm how ant for those with additional 4 time FREE servicing ?? Do we need to pay for the synthetic oil or is it part of the package??
any one know??
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hmm how ant for those with additional 4 time FREE servicing ?? Do we need to pay for the synthetic oil or is it part of the package??
any one know??
Hi, i just checked with my SE - the additional 4 free servicing uses synthetic oil so no worries!
i wonder if i can bring my own synthetic oil for the 1st 3 servicings? Hmm... i go sms my SE later ;D
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Can bring own oil... but no point. For first 2 servicing, stick to mineral oil because engine still running in and the oil have to be changed regularly. For 3rd servicing, can bring ouwn synthetic to extend interval to 10,000 km. :thumbsup:
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Hi, i just checked with my SE - the additional 4 free servicing uses synthetic oil so no worries!
i wonder if i can bring my own synthetic oil for the 1st 3 servicings? Hmm... i go sms my SE later ;D
oh.. then i am going to use their free synethetic oil 1st lah...
do u know if there is a choice between which synthetic oil??
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Can bring own oil... but no point. For first 2 servicing, stick to mineral oil because engine still running in and the oil have to be changed regularly. For 3rd servicing, can bring ouwn synthetic to extend interval to 10,000 km. :thumbsup:
Thanks for the tip! Will do as u suggested! :thumbsup:
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oh.. then i am going to use their free synethetic oil 1st lah...
do u know if there is a choice between which synthetic oil??
Its Fastflo or PocketFlo (Flo from own pocket lor). Hahaha no choice for NPMP lah.
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hey guys, esp. those who have gone for the 3rd free servicing at 10k, what oil did TCM use ? Mineral or synthetic ?
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TCM's NPMP Package is worth it :thumbsup:
But mine is OPC, so chose to opt out as I doubt can hit 50k in 2.5yrs.
mine non opc, but i use only during wk days...
8mths only slightly pass 10,000km...
despite i when up and down KL 2-3times since...
the duration of the NPMP package only 2days 40,000km...
i doubt it is worth for me to sign up too...
but i think it is a good package if u can clock 20,000km in one year...
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the duration of the NPMP package only 2days 40,000km...
u mean 2 years bro...! :scared:
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hey guys, esp. those who have gone for the 3rd free servicing at 10k, what oil did TCM use ? Mineral or synthetic ?
Free is mineral. Synthetic have to pay or bring own oil.
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hey guys, esp. those who have gone for the 3rd free servicing at 10k, what oil did TCM use ? Mineral or synthetic ?
3rd free servicing uses mineral oil, my advice is to use the synthetic oil either from TCM or bring along your own oil...can last for the next 10k km...if use mineral oil after 5k km need to change oil again...I was charged abt $70 for Shogun during my 3rd servicing... :ohmy:
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hmm just want to find out >>so all in all, is it good to have the NPMP program?? or just service outside (reliable mechanics)?
currently i was given a quite good NPMP package by my SE when i bought the car >> 7 times free services from 1000km onwards
Hi bro,
It all depends on individual regarding servicing at TCM or outside....For me, I did my servicing at TCM for the 3 years under warranty, easier to 'bang table' if anything spoils during this period...but I'm currently looking for outside mechanic which is reliable for my servicing on my 30k km onwards when warranty ends...cheaper to bring my own engine oil & service outside....juz my 2cents' worth... :cool2:
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Free is mineral. Synthetic have to pay or bring own oil.
WOW now confused liao...
under the NPMP (total 7 times free servicing), do we need to pay for fastflo engine???
i dont want to bring my own engine oil leh... want to save $$$ hahaha
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WOW now confused liao...
under the NPMP (total 7 times free servicing), do we need to pay for fastflo engine???
i dont want to bring my own engine oil leh... want to save $$$ hahaha
According to my SE, the first 3 free servicings use mineral oil. Only the 4th-7th free service then TCM uses synthetic.
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If we want to use synthetic oil during the 10,000km servicing, do you know how much do we have to top up?
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If we want to use synthetic oil during the 10,000km servicing, do you know how much do we have to top up?
i think someone mentioned earlier to top up is extra $70. Carrefour on sale can get Mobil 1 for abt $53 and Shell Helix Ultra for abt $56. i waiting for next time synthetic oil comes on sale there b4 i go pickup 1 bottle for my 10k service. :thumbsup:
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i think someone mentioned earlier to top up is extra $70. Carrefour on sale can get Mobil 1 for abt $53 and Shell Helix Ultra for abt $56. i waiting for next time synthetic oil comes on sale there b4 i go pickup 1 bottle for my 10k service. :thumbsup:
Carrefour selling so cheap? :w00t:
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so juz need 1 bottle only for every 10k servicing ?
if bring own engine oil, will TCM still charge a service fee ? becos u didnt use their oil.
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WOW now confused liao...
under the NPMP (total 7 times free servicing), do we need to pay for fastflo engine???
i dont want to bring my own engine oil leh... want to save $$$ hahaha
Guess u got additional NPMP (4 services) free on top of ur free 1st 3 servicing. For 1st 3 servicing, TC will use Mineral Oil (not fully synthetic oil). After that, they will use Fastflo Fully synthetic oil in ur NPMP servicing. If u wan to use Shogun, u nd to pay xtra. I hv tried both Fastflo and Shogun, and found Shogun worse than Fastflo (altho TC claims is much better therefore hv to top-up). When using Shogun, engine lacked power, and my mileage also drops (from my avg 12++km/L to 10++/L). Now back to use the Fastflo in my NPMP.
Btw, I am on NPMP till today, me aldy 120K++ (~3 years).
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Guess u got additional NPMP (4 services) free on top of ur free 1st 3 servicing. For 1st 3 servicing, TC will use Mineral Oil (not fully synthetic oil). After that, they will use Fastflo Fully synthetic oil in ur NPMP servicing. If u wan to use Shogun, u nd to pay xtra. I hv tried both Fastflo and Shogun, and found Shogun worse than Fastflo (altho TC claims is much better therefore hv to top-up). When using Shogun, engine lacked power, and my mileage also drops (from my avg 12++km/L to 10++/L). Now back to use the Fastflo in my NPMP.
Btw, I am on NPMP till today, me aldy 120K++ (~3 years).
no wonder my fc not as good. TC replace old mineral to shogun during my 40K service (included in NPMP). About the same time I added grounding, VS, spark VS so I was thinking the spark VS might be the one that lower my FC from (NSHW) ~14km/l to ~12km/l, I expect to get better fc after changing to Shogun. Next time will try other oil. Thanks for the info.
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Carrefour selling so cheap? :w00t:
Yup! And if u use POSB Everyday Card got another 5% discount! But limited to 4 or 6 bottles per person. :thumbsup:
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no wonder my fc not as good. TC replace old mineral to shogun during my 40K service (included in NPMP). About the same time I added grounding, VS, spark VS so I was thinking the spark VS might be the one that lower my FC from (NSHW) ~14km/l to ~12km/l, I expect to get better fc after changing to Shogun. Next time will try other oil. Thanks for the info.
Try using Shogun for a few of my servicing (forgot to buy engine oil so LL use Shogun), After that i will make sure i buy my own engine oil before i go for any servicing. Now on Amsoil and loving it.
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Try using Shogun for a few of my servicing (forgot to buy engine oil so LL use Shogun), After that i will make sure i buy my own engine oil before i go for any servicing. Now on Amsoil and loving it.
I've ordered Amsoil too, waiting to change it during my next servicing...currently still on TCM Fastflo, how's the diff using Amsoil? Smoother response, etc? ;)
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i think someone mentioned earlier to top up is extra $70. Carrefour on sale can get Mobil 1 for abt $53 and Shell Helix Ultra for abt $56. i waiting for next time synthetic oil comes on sale there b4 i go pickup 1 bottle for my 10k service. :thumbsup:
The Mobil 1 found at Carrrefour is a parallel import. You will notice the words 'Performance formula' on the bottom left hand corner of the bottle.
It is packed in USA and may not be suitable for our local climate. The authorised ones are packed in Singapore.
The Shell Helix Ultra is made in Malaysia, not Singapore. I have heard enough horror stories of recycled engine oils from Malaysia.
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It is packed in USA and may not be suitable for our local climate. The authorised ones are packed in Singapore.
don't think so, no winter in Singapore, there is no difference for 0w30, 5w30 or 10w30.
but when you drive in winter, need to choose engine oil carefully.
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What I meant is these parallel import engine oils may not be suitable for the hot and himid climate in Singapore. They are meant for the cooler European climate.
Even your Latio is tropicalised for Singapore climate before being exported here.
Eg. Some cars headed here have bigger radiators.
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i think someone mentioned earlier to top up is extra $70. Carrefour on sale can get Mobil 1 for abt $53 and Shell Helix Ultra for abt $56. i waiting for next time synthetic oil comes on sale there b4 i go pickup 1 bottle for my 10k service. :thumbsup:
Hi
The NPMP deal comes with my latio purchase. Anyone knows at what mileage the NPMP starts?
Im considering changing to synthetic oil at 10K. Is it advisable?
Anyone brought engine oil to TCM during servicing before .. do they change a fee?
Tks
Rgds
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I've ordered Amsoil too, waiting to change it during my next servicing...currently still on TCM Fastflo, how's the diff using Amsoil? Smoother response, etc? ;)
Hi all,
I bring my own Amsoil 0W30 for my 10,000km servicing. No service charge. Brought 4 bottles, used only 3 bottles and return me the remaining 1 bottle.
I must say AMSOIL is good, after reading good reviews here in this forum.
Wanna know why i say good?
Normally, from full (at the brink) to first quarter mark will clocked about 120km.
After using AMSOIL, i managed to clock 130km++ a whooping difference of 10KM!
Driving pattern still same: 80% highway 20% city. Quite light footed, rev till 2500RPM from stationary when moving off.
Normally i pump Esso 5000. But after servicing I pumped Esso 8000. I dunno whether Esso 5000 and Esso 8000 unleaded got diff in my FC variations.
All I can say engine now more smooth and more responsive, with better FC. Just my 2 cents. :thumbsup:
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Hi
The NPMP deal comes with my latio purchase. Anyone knows at what mileage the NPMP starts?
Im considering changing to synthetic oil at 10K. Is it advisable?
Anyone brought engine oil to TCM during servicing before .. do they change a fee?
Tks
Rgds
NPMP is applicable from 20,000 km to 50,000km or 30 mths, whichever comes first.
Recommended to change to synthetic oil at 10,000km so that you can stretch your next oil change to 20,000km rather than 15,000km if you use mineral engine oil.
You can bring your own engine oil but i oyu are under NPMP package, it defeats the purpose as engine oil is already included in the package and I am unsure if they will give you a refund.
Does anyone know if we want to use synthetic engine oil at 10,000km servicing, do we have to top up $$$?
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Hi all,
I bring my own Amsoil 0W30 for my 10,000km servicing. No service charge. Brought 4 bottles, used only 3 bottles and return me the remaining 1 bottle.
I must say AMSOIL is good, after reading good reviews here in this forum.
Wanna know why i say good?
Normally, from full (at the brink) to first quarter mark will clocked about 120km.
After using AMSOIL, i managed to clock 130km++ a whooping difference of 10KM!
Driving pattern still same: 80% highway 20% city. Quite light footed, rev till 2500RPM from stationary when moving off.
Normally i pump Esso 5000. But after servicing I pumped Esso 8000. I dunno whether Esso 5000 and Esso 8000 unleaded got diff in my FC variations.
All I can say engine now more smooth and more responsive, with better FC. Just my 2 cents. :thumbsup:
I should say that in general, your car's improved smoothness and responsiveness is due to 2 major factors - new engine oil (can be any brand) and 98 RON petrol.
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NPMP is applicable from 20,000 km to 50,000km or 30 mths, whichever comes first.
Recommended to change to synthetic oil at 10,000km so that you can stretch your next oil change to 20,000km rather than 15,000km if you use mineral engine oil.
You can bring your own engine oil but i oyu are under NPMP package, it defeats the purpose as engine oil is already included in the package and I am unsure if they will give you a refund.
Does anyone know if we want to use synthetic engine oil at 10,000km servicing, do we have to top up $$$?
yup, definately need to top up $. i use shogun oil but cant remember how much liao. let me go hm tonite c can still find the receipt anot
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Does anyone know if we want to use synthetic engine oil at 10,000km servicing, do we have to top up $$$?
what i heard is that we are given FastFlow @ our 10000km servicing (in the package)... SO dont need to pay..Just that Fastflow is not as good leh....
I dont think we are given shouken engine oil FREE rite?
maybe those gone for 10000km servicing can check if i am right or not.
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what i heard is that we are given FastFlow @ our 10000km servicing (in the package)... SO dont need to pay..Just that Fastflow is not as good leh....
I dont think we are given shouken engine oil FREE rite?
maybe those gone for 10000km servicing can check if i am right or not.
10,000 only get free mineral. Synthetic Fastflo must pay also.
I have been on NPMP for the last 2 years using Fastflo. So has my dad. Ok leh. I used Mobil 1 twice. At 10,000 and 40,000. :thumbsup:
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Guys... We can buy the NPMP at any time rite? but actually when is the mileage that parts have to be changed?
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10,000 only get free mineral. Synthetic Fastflo must pay also.
I have been on NPMP for the last 2 years using Fastflo. So has my dad. Ok leh. I used Mobil 1 twice. At 10,000 and 40,000. :thumbsup:
wow So overall>> synthetic oil = MUST PAY ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! haha
kns .. i still tot is free..
Okie.. then so the advice is change to synthetic oil @10K rite??... so wat is the Amsoil is the brand to use??? (saw so many good reviews on it...)
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yup, definately need to top up $. i use shogun oil but cant remember how much liao. let me go hm tonite c can still find the receipt anot
wow.. now i need your inform to see how much $$ to top up for synthetic engine oil liao.. (i tot @10000km service, the oil is free arrggh)
Types of engine oil available >> shogun, fastflow, Mobil 1, armsoil ... still got others??
among these.. i onyl HEARD good reviews on armsoil (loust review on fastflo).... Are there any good & cheap ones ??
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wow.. now i need your inform to see how much $$ to top up for synthetic engine oil liao.. (i tot @10000km service, the oil is free arrggh)
Types of engine oil available >> shogun, fastflow, Mobil 1, armsoil ... still got others??
among these.. i onyl HEARD good reviews on armsoil (loust review on fastflo).... Are there any good & cheap ones ??
There are so many EO in the market. Basically all petrol station selling their own EO as well. Go to Giant, Carrefour or NTUC Xtra to see on the shelf.
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wow So overall>> synthetic oil = MUST PAY ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! haha
kns .. i still tot is free..
Okie.. then so the advice is change to synthetic oil @10K rite??... so wat is the Amsoil is the brand to use??? (saw so many good reviews on it...)
my NPMP letter sent to me, states synthetic oil at 10k onwards... so i presume should be foc.
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my NPMP letter sent to me, states synthetic oil at 10k onwards... so i presume should be foc.
It FOC but using Fasflo....not that Fast Flow lor
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my NPMP letter sent to me, states synthetic oil at 10k onwards... so i presume should be foc.
I just called Tan Chong to verify.
Those who signed up for NPMP package will have synthetic oil at 10K km servicing.
Those without this package will be given mineral oil.
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I just called Tan Chong to verify.
Those who signed up for NPMP package will have synthetic oil at 10K km servicing.
Those without this package will be given mineral oil.
I will always bring my own oil even knowing that it Syntheic oil that I will be given. So far, this is 3rd NPMP packages I have received from TCM on my last 4 cars with them.
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I will always bring my own oil even knowing that it Syntheic oil that I will be given. So far, this is 3rd NPMP packages I have received from TCM on my last 4 cars with them.
gui ge
then, tcm charge u cheaper coz u bring ur own EO?
u bring ur own airfilter and oilfilter?
we still got another aircon filter right?
how frequent these filters must get changed?
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wow.. now i need your inform to see how much $$ to top up for synthetic engine oil liao.. (i tot @10000km service, the oil is free arrggh)
Types of engine oil available >> shogun, fastflow, Mobil 1, armsoil ... still got others??
among these.. i onyl HEARD good reviews on armsoil (loust review on fastflo).... Are there any good & cheap ones ??
hi limck007
so what EO u use? use TCM one or ur own one?
our buddies in this forum always strongly recommending Amsoil EO leh. the response is good aso leh. 3 bottles only.
regards.
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I will always bring my own oil even knowing that it Syntheic oil that I will be given. So far, this is 3rd NPMP packages I have received from TCM on my last 4 cars with them.
You signed up for NPMP package, and yet you bring your own engine oil?
Like that not worth it for you.
Maybe next time can ask them to 'da pao' and pack their engine oil for you into a 4l bottle and you can sell it. :D
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You signed up for NPMP package, and yet you bring your own engine oil?
Like that not worth it for you.
Maybe next time can ask them to 'da pao' and pack their engine oil for you into a 4l bottle and you can sell it. :D
Or they use their fas flow oil and take your Amsoil to sell .... ooppppssss .... :devil2:
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We all know Fastflo is a rebranded Tan Chong in-house engine oil.
Does anyone know Fastflo is from which oil company?
SPC, Esso or Shell etc?
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i think 40000km is the overhaul servicing where they change the parts?
anybody can confirm this?
i will be going for my 20000km servicing soon and will most probably get the npmp package.
err..shld be able to cover til 40000km right?
Guys... We can buy the NPMP at any time rite? but actually when is the mileage that parts have to be changed?
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NPMP is valid for 20K, 30K, 40K and 50K km servicing.
For new cars, it is valid for 2 1/2 yrs or up to 50K km servicing, whichever comes first.
For those who sign up for NPMP only at the 20K km service interval, I am not sure how long is the validity period.
Can anyone advise?
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You signed up for NPMP package, and yet you bring your own engine oil?
Like that not worth it for you.
Maybe next time can ask them to 'da pao' and pack their engine oil for you into a 4l bottle and you can sell it. :D
Me no sign up, me given to me when I purchase my ride.
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hi limck007
so what EO u use? use TCM one or ur own one?
our buddies in this forum always strongly recommending Amsoil EO leh. the response is good aso leh. 3 bottles only.
regards.
i havent go yet.... so cant comment..just that i am still tihnking of getting which EO only haha
FREE EO = fastflo or Own $$=Amsoil... ( i dont really trust those EO selling at petrol station.. overrpice for average performance)
Does the performance of FastFlo and Amsoil differ alot for NEW cars??
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Or they use their fas flow oil and take your Amsoil to sell .... ooppppssss .... :devil2:
hahah that one really cannot tell leh hahaha
we also cannot ask them to skip the EO change & we change EO outside ourself ... ABIT waste of $$$
(if change EO outside >> how much???)
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Me no sign up, me given to me when I purchase my ride.
wah.. bro ghost..
thats a good deal... no need to worry anymore abt servicing... 50k is abt few years rite...
i'm going for my 30k servicing.... but i dun think i'm going to TCM...
u guys have any other workshops to recomand..?
gd ones :thumbsup:
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It FOC but using Fasflo....not that Fast Flow lor
yeah, but never mind.. i will stick to my foc fastflo :)
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wah.. bro ghost..
thats a good deal... no need to worry anymore abt servicing... 50k is abt few years rite...
i'm going for my 30k servicing.... but i dun think i'm going to TCM...
u guys have any other workshops to recomand..?
gd ones :thumbsup:
u try Mr Low Eng CHong... workshop is at Eunos Ave 4 #01-210 >> SHeng Yi LAi...
Good workmanship + he quote very reasonable
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yeah, but never mind.. i will stick to my foc fastflo :)
HAHAH i think I also will do that too..
UNLESS some one tell me the performance of Fastflo is REALLY lousy or WORSE than my current mineral oil
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HAHAH i think I also will do that too..
UNLESS some one tell me the performance of Fastflo is REALLY lousy or WORSE than my current mineral oil
yeah, can't be worse than the current mineral oil right? or can it ? haha... at the most, i would use my old stock of royal purple oil i have stashed somewhere around...
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yeah, can't be worse than the current mineral oil right? or can it ? haha... at the most, i would use my old stock of royal purple oil i have stashed somewhere around...
Don't be surprise.....fasflo isn't that fast at all.
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Don't be surprise.....fasflo isn't that fast at all.
wow dont scare me lah.. haha ... cfm not worse than minieral oil one..
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Don't be surprise.....fasflo isn't that fast at all.
What do you mean? Can you please elaborate? :confused1:
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wow dont scare me lah.. haha ... cfm not worse than minieral oil one..
Dun worry too much, synthetic oil suppose to be better than mineral oil. :smile:
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Don't be surprise.....fasflo isn't that fast at all.
gui ge
fasflo?i scare it is a fat and loh soh :)
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What do you mean? Can you please elaborate? :confused1:
My 1st time tried fasflo ..i remember asking myself driving out frm TCM workshop....why the car feel so sluggish?? Went to get a 5w40 to change it right away.....the car feel so much lighter
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My 1st time tried fasflo ..i remember asking myself driving out frm TCM workshop....why the car feel so sluggish?? Went to get a 5w40 to change it right away.....the car feel so much lighter
wat is the "correct feel" after a change in EO from minerals to synthetic?? I tot Eo suppose to be "thick" (maybe feel sluggish) so that it will protect the engine?
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Thickness of engine oil depends on the rating - '20' is thinnest and '50' is thickest.
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Thickness of engine oil depends on the rating - '20' is thinnest and '50' is thickest.
hmm then thin is good or thicker it is , the better?
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hmm then thin is good or thicker it is , the better?
Thicker better for protection but engine will become more sluggish and affect FC.
As long as use engine oil within the recommended range in the manual can already. Rest is up to you.
My preference is 5w30 but TC give free 40 or 50 with my npmp. Once in a while, I bring in my own 5w30.
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Thicker better for protection but engine will become more sluggish and affect FC.
As long as use engine oil within the recommended range in the manual can already. Rest is up to you.
My preference is 5w30 but TC give free 40 or 50 with my npmp. Once in a while, I bring in my own 5w30.
Well said :thumbsup:
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30 or 40 for new cars.
40 for cars from 4 to 5 years onwards.
50 for cars above 10 years.
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Is it worth it to sign up for TCM NPMP package of S$1,019? They said the price will be up soon. They said we don't need to change spark plug until 100,000 km and no need to change timing belt at all. They will change (for FOC) brake pads (front: S$114; rear: S$88) and drive beltings & pulley bearing (S$100). Is it worth it? How much to do those outside since major parts no need to change (timing belt & spark plug).
Dear all,
I am going for my 40000km servicing...
Not sure is worth to sign up NPMP?
http://www.nissan.com.sg/service/plans.cfm?go=npmp2
The price is now S$1091, not S$1019 already.
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yeah, but never mind.. i will stick to my foc fastflo :)
hi fickle,
i thk after 3 times foc servicing, there isn't anymore Free fastflo or EO from TCM?
we got to pay right?
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hi all
the npmp, once u sign up, u got to make full payment? got instalment bo?
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Hi all
I saw this various Packages on nissan website.
http://www.nissan.com.sg/service/price1.cfm?pkg=C
Service Package C, price is S$422, for mileage 40k, 80k & 120k
Worth?
Or sign up NPMP is more worthwhile? Will 1091 is net price for 4 servicing?
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Hi all
I saw this various Packages on nissan website.
http://www.nissan.com.sg/service/price1.cfm?pkg=C
Service Package C, price is S$422, for mileage 40k, 80k & 120k
Worth?
Or sign up NPMP is more worthwhile? Will 1091 is net price for 4 servicing?
NPMP servcing goes by Package A-B-A-C.
A is the cheapest and C is the most expensive.
If u add up 4 servicings cost individually, u pay slightly more only.
But if u choose NOT to take the NPMP, u can still follow the NPMP sequence (A-B-A-c) yourself.
But hey, u can bring in yr own preferred oil! and they will cut the price by $80 or $90 of the package price per servicing. e.g if package C is $422, u pay only $342 if u bring yr own oil.
End up it is still worth it as it is cheaper and u are using yr preferred oil.
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$1091 is net price (i signed liao - like no instalment one)
i think the good part of npmp is not the servicing, rather the renewal of belting, brake pads, lights foc etc
also its only worth it if 1) u dont mind their engine oil 2) dont want any hassle (ie servicing & warranty complain can do together) 3) live near TCM ;D
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NPMP servcing goes by Package A-B-A-C.
A is the cheapest and C is the most expensive.
If u add up 4 servicings cost individually, u pay slightly more only.
But if u choose NOT to take the NPMP, u can still follow the NPMP sequence (A-B-A-c) yourself.
But hey, u can bring in yr own preferred oil! and they will cut the price by $80 or $90 of the package price per servicing. e.g if package C is $422, u pay only $342 if u bring yr own oil.
End up it is still worth it as it is cheaper and u are using yr preferred oil.
provided the price for each service package remain the same over 2 years.
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$1091 is net price (i signed liao - like no instalment one)
i think the good part of npmp is not the servicing, rather the renewal of belting, brake pads, lights foc etc
also its only worth it if 1) u dont mind their engine oil 2) dont want any hassle (ie servicing & warranty complain can do together) 3) live near TCM ;D
hi ckyc
ic. good idea. if chg of belting, brake pads, and lights are FOC (if anything happen to it anytime? can go back to tcm to chg anytime@foc?) quite a gd deal then if inclusive of these.
now 37000km, belting need to change?
i think i am going to list down what r the issues that i am encountering and will tell the engineer tomolo.
now, is 37000km, will it be too late to sign up this npmp @ 1091?
thanks.
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provided the price for each service package remain the same over 2 years.
so ying, how?
shld i sign up?
i want hassle free leh?
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i have signed up b4 and will continue to sign when it s due after my next servicing. for me is hassle free.
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hi ckyc
ic. good idea. if chg of belting, brake pads, and lights are FOC (if anything happen to it anytime? can go back to tcm to chg anytime@foc?) quite a gd deal then if inclusive of these.
now 37000km, belting need to change?
i think i am going to list down what r the issues that i am encountering and will tell the engineer tomolo.
now, is 37000km, will it be too late to sign up this npmp @ 1091?
thanks.
My mileage is now 41000k and is still eligible for the NPMP.
If change of belting, brake pads, lights and other parts are covered under the NPMP, then it is quite worth it. But to get the most out of the NPMP, sign up only when your beltings and brake pads are about due for change.
If only TC says it is still eligible for NPMP despite the high mileage... i think it will be worth it...
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hi all
i signed up for S$1091 npmp today morning, when i went for my 40000km servicing at tcm bkt timah... today 10am... saw a few lengloi there but didnt get any coz busy with 2little boys...
yes, they chg the belting, wiper balde, shgun brake fluid , coolant 1L, joint assy-stee, rotate and balance tyres, renew all belting, carry out 40000km service (major service, under npmp prog), use fastflo 100% synthetic oil, carry out side slip check, renew both front brake pad,
due to the issues i highlighted to them, they aso do this for new @ FOC -> renew steering coupling, chk beltings noisy when start up, chk steering knocking sound...
i just realised, my wiper, was changed by tcm just now for my 37300km service (40000km), they didnt return back to me leh? how ah?
and the fastflo EO, no 'remaining' for me to topup myself one ah?
i like hassle free.... too... having peace of mind now , as i travel alot to msia, johor & kl. feel more comfortable than autosaver or any workshop out there.... TCM is the best! Go!
mr nymin9, iagree with u.
regards.
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My mileage is now 41000k and is still eligible for the NPMP.
If change of belting, brake pads, lights and other parts are covered under the NPMP, then it is quite worth it. But to get the most out of the NPMP, sign up only when your beltings and brake pads are about due for change.
If only TC says it is still eligible for NPMP despite the high mileage... i think it will be worth it...
hi Midnight
ya, start npmp from 40000km is ok also.
Steven was shock when i told him my mileage is 37000km+... haha... but he still recommended n explained to me the npmp, is more worthwhile...
npmp include 2A+1B+1C services.
C is for major services, which is what i hv done today.
next service will be A
for C, indv price is abt $400+
for A, is abt $180+
for B, is abt $300+
but for npmp, the price is S$1091 (inclusive of gst) (free 4 times, 2a1b1c), and, it doesnt charge us 'labor fee and other misc fees anyhow...'. if we service our car with indv service type, there are many 'fees' to be paid separately.
regards.
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hi all
i signed up for S$1091 npmp today morning, when i went for my 40000km servicing at tcm bkt timah... today 10am... saw a few lengloi there but didnt get any coz busy with 2little boys...
yes, they chg the belting, wiper balde, shgun brake fluid , coolant 1L, joint assy-stee, rotate and balance tyres, renew all belting, carry out 40000km service (major service, under npmp prog), use fastflo 100% synthetic oil, carry out side slip check, renew both front brake pad,
due to the issues i highlighted to them, they aso do this for new @ FOC -> renew steering coupling, chk beltings noisy when start up, chk steering knocking sound...
i just realised, my wiper, was changed by tcm just now for my 37300km service (40000km), they didnt return back to me leh? how ah?
and the fastflo EO, no 'remaining' for me to topup myself one ah?
i like hassle free.... too... having peace of mind now , as i travel alot to msia, johor & kl. feel more comfortable than autosaver or any workshop out there.... TCM is the best! Go!
mr nymin9, iagree with u.
regards.
hi,
jus to clarify the belting change.
wat belts did TCM changed?
correct me if i m wronged, i thgt the timimg belt is chain type so still need to changed?
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yes, they chg the belting, wiper balde, shgun brake fluid , coolant 1L, joint assy-stee, rotate and balance tyres, renew all belting, carry out 40000km service (major service, under npmp prog), use fastflo 100% synthetic oil, carry out side slip check, renew both front brake pad,
due to the issues i highlighted to them, they aso do this for new @ FOC -> renew steering coupling, chk beltings noisy when start up, chk steering knocking sound...
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regards.
Yo brother, looks like it is really a good deal.
1. Any idea what is "joint assy-stee" and renew "steering coupling"? Does it solve the steering knocking sound?
2. I think TC will allow us to start the NPMP program at any mileage since the package will always include 2A + 1B + 1C. They dun lugi and we dun benefit in anyway.
The only drawback for me is the EO that they are using. Very likely is w40 or w50. Not fuel efficient...
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hi,
jus to clarify the belting change.
wat belts did TCM changed?
correct me if i m wronged, i thgt the timimg belt is chain type so still need to changed?
hi rooneytoon2004
i donno what kind of belt they chg for me, coz i really donno leh.
hopefully they r not changing the waist belt for my ride loh ...
regards.
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Yo brother, looks like it is really a good deal.
1. Any idea what is "joint assy-stee" and renew "steering coupling"? Does it solve the steering knocking sound?
2. I think TC will allow us to start the NPMP program at any mileage since the package will always include 2A + 1B + 1C. They dun lugi and we dun benefit in anyway.
The only drawback for me is the EO that they are using. Very likely is w40 or w50. Not fuel efficient...
Hi Midnight
The Steering coupling is to solve the steering problem, when i do 3-point-turn, it has the "knocking sound", i told him all the problems that i thk they shld solve for me when i was there for servicing, he wrote down and ask the service engineer to chk for that , item by item. remember, must tell them Wu A, Bo A, if can, just tell them all the big matter or small matter, ask them to solve THIS & THAT. just lut, mai kia. i will drive back to them again if my issues still not solve, so, i cant really tell u whether the noise still exist or not...
yes, EO they use is fastflo 5w40. yes, u can choose to ask them to chg to w20 if u wish, shld be foc or may be topup abit more only. no harm asking them. i listened to Steven's explanation, so i leave it to them to chg 5W40 for me. let's try it out loh. next 10000km is very soon one.
regards.
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hi rooneytoon2004
i donno what kind of belt they chg for me, coz i really donno leh.
hopefully they r not changing the waist belt for my ride loh ...
regards.
My previous ride has timing belt, fan belt, steering belt and alternator belt (not sure). If Latio refers to the same.
If i am not wrong, Latio Pre (CVT) uses timing chain.
Lation 4(AT) uses timing belt (which need to be change around 80,000km)
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Hi Midnight
The Steering coupling is to solve the steering problem, when i do 3-point-turn, it has the "knocking sound", i told him all the problems that i thk they shld solve for me when i was there for servicing, he wrote down and ask the service engineer to chk for that , item by item. remember, must tell them Wu A, Bo A, if can, just tell them all the big matter or small matter, ask them to solve THIS & THAT. just lut, mai kia. i will drive back to them again if my issues still not solve, so, i cant really tell u whether the noise still exist or not...
yes, EO they use is fastflo 5w40. yes, u can choose to ask them to chg to w20 if u wish, shld be foc or may be topup abit more only. no harm asking them. i listened to Steven's explanation, so i leave it to them to chg 5W40 for me. let's try it out loh. next 10000km is very soon one.
regards.
Eh i read yr other thread, u also complain about car start up noisy and they change the belt for you? Yr car 04' 2007, relatively new, so fast change liao ah.... mine is 12' 2006....
i think 5w20 the oil is too thin... i would prefer 5w30 for now. Do they have it? I thought the price is the same regardless of w20, w30 or w40....
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My previous ride has timing belt, fan belt, steering belt and alternator belt (not sure). If Latio refers to the same.
If i am not wrong, Latio Pre (CVT) uses timing chain.
Lation 4(AT) uses timing belt (which need to be change around 80,000km)
hi Midnight
ic. thanks for ur highlight.
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Eh i read yr other thread, u also complain about car start up noisy and they change the belt for you? Yr car 04' 2007, relatively new, so fast change liao ah.... mine is 12' 2006....
i think 5w20 the oil is too thin... i would prefer 5w30 for now. Do they have it? I thought the price is the same regardless of w20, w30 or w40....
hi Midnight
ic. i am not sure abt cars. i leave it to them to do anything they like.
he asked me 'major service or normal service?'
i said shld be Major service for 40000km right? then he take it as Major service.
was it becoz of that , that's why the beltings were changed?
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sorry allow me to clarify...
both 4AT and CVT difference is the type of gear box. while timing belt or timing chain is on the engine to control the engine timing. timimg chain/belt which is on the engine, has got nothing to do with the gear box.
as for CVT, it is true that there is a belt inside the gearbox. this belt can be of normal belt or steel belt. the latio CVT uses steel belt fyi. note that 4AT does not use belt.
therefore,
My previous ride has timing belt (all cars got timing belt), fan belt, steering belt and alternator belt (not sure)(usually the belt is shared). If Latio refers to the same.
If i am not wrong, Latio Pre (CVT) uses timing chain.(should be regard as chain belt and not timing belt as the belt does not serve any timing purpose)
Lation 4(AT) uses timing belt (which need to be change around 80,000km)(4AT's gearbox does not use belt, but engine does have a timing belt like any other cars do)
hope it clears the air. :)
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sorry allow me to clarify...
both 4AT and CVT difference is the type of gear box. while timing belt or timing chain is on the engine to control the engine timing. timimg chain/belt which is on the engine, has got nothing to do with the gear box.
as for CVT, it is true that there is a belt inside the gearbox. this belt can be of normal belt or steel belt. the latio CVT uses steel belt fyi. note that 4AT does not use belt.
therefore,
hope it clears the air. :)
yo bro, thanks for giving us an insight on the cvt gear box tt uses a steel belt.
to clarify, when I say Latio 4(AT) uses timing belt, I mean "a latio with 4 speed auto gear box" uses timing belt. not refering to the gearbox using timing belt.
:-)
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hi zzyzx & midnight
u both are solid one. thanks. :thumbsup:
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FYI
NPMP is worth to sign up ^$^
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FYI
NPMP is worth to sign up ^$^
Yo Bro iagree,
IMHO, NPMP is only worth signing for high mileage user like yourself.
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Yo Bro iagree,
IMHO, NPMP is only worth signing for high mileage user like yourself.
I think anytime after the warranty expired (from 4th year onwards), it is quite worth because all parts and labour are covered and we dun have to fork out additional $$ for the parts (if we did not sign up for NPMP).
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I think anytime after the warranty expired (from 4th year onwards), it is quite worth because all parts and labour are covered and we dun have to fork out additional $$ for the parts (if we did not sign up for NPMP).
Hi,
Yes agree, and unless we intent to drive for more than 3 years. So I may not sign the package as I don't intent to drive long.
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Hi,
Yes agree, and unless we intent to drive for more than 3 years. So I may not sign the package as I don't intent to drive long.
yes, good for those who drive long and mostly stock. If I remember correctly, you can't transfer NPMP to new buyer of your car.
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yes, good for those who drive long and mostly stock. If I remember correctly, you can't transfer NPMP to new buyer of your car.
Hello Ying,
So I assume it cannot be refund for the balance as well right.
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http://www.nissan.com.sg/service/plans.cfm?go=npmp2
Tranferability & Refund
Program is transferable to subsequent owner of same vehicle, thus adding value to resale vehicle. However, no refund shall be granted in the event of program termination.
Model Model Code Offer Price
Latio C11 $1,091
w.e.f Aug 2008
** No futher discount for Nissan Advantage card holder
* Prices inclusive of GST; subject to changes without prior notice
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http://www.nissan.com.sg/service/plans.cfm?go=npmp2
Tranferability & Refund
Program is transferable to subsequent owner of same vehicle, thus adding value to resale vehicle. However, no refund shall be granted in the event of program termination.
Model Model Code Offer Price
Latio C11 $1,091
w.e.f Aug 2008
** No futher discount for Nissan Advantage card holder
* Prices inclusive of GST; subject to changes without prior notice
I ever bought over the balance of the NPMP from a friend's nissan because he switched to another brand. That is, it could be transferred even to a different owner for a different car. Not sure whether the policy has changed.
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I think anytime after the warranty expired (from 4th year onwards), it is quite worth because all parts and labour are covered and we dun have to fork out additional $$ for the parts (if we did not sign up for NPMP).
Hi, not sure what you meant by "all parts.....are covered". Understand that some parts are not covered. Better to check with TCM (in writing) before committing.
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Yo Bro iagree,
IMHO, NPMP is only worth signing for high mileage user like yourself.
Hi Jazz
I may agree with u.
If your next 10k serving is not so soon, then your S$1091 is like prepaid to TCM for them to use the $ to earn more $.
Prepaid / collect $ up front b4 rendering services to customers... SMART tactic.
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Hi Jazz
I may agree with u.
If your next 10k serving is not so soon, then your S$1091 is like prepaid to TCM for them to use the $ to earn more $.
Prepaid / collect $ up front b4 rendering services to customers... SMART tactic.
Hi Bro iagree,
Yep. My yearly mileage is only 10K km nia, so I won't be signing furthermore may not drive too long for my Latio. :smile:
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Hi Bro iagree,
Yep. My yearly mileage is only 10K km nia, so I won't be signing furthermore may not drive too long for my Latio. :smile:
hi jazz
iagree. mine very fast one. 1yr already 40000km.
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http://www.nissan.com.sg/service/plans.cfm?go=npmp2
Tranferability & Refund
Program is transferable to subsequent owner of same vehicle, thus adding value to resale vehicle. However, no refund shall be granted in the event of program termination.
Model Model Code Offer Price
Latio C11 $1,091
w.e.f Aug 2008
** No futher discount for Nissan Advantage card holder
* Prices inclusive of GST; subject to changes without prior notice
Huh, last time they told me once signed can not transfer. That time I paid $1019. but never mind, I will use up all the package myself
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Huh, last time they told me once signed can not transfer. That time I paid $1019. but never mind, I will use up all the package myself
hi ying
i thk cannot transfer, can oni transfer to the next "same car" owner.
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hi all,
yesterday i call TCM BT to chk book for servicing after cny. i enquire abt the NPMP on the engine oil. They said using fastflo which i dun think i wan that. so i ask can change to shogun? they said cannot leh :confused1:. even i top up $$$ oso cannot :mad:. any bro/ sis out there with NPMP change to shogun EO? heard so many ppl complaint abt fastflo EO leh......
thks alot ;)
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it's better to hv a personal feel of how flasflo performs for yr car by trying EO of another GOOD brand and series. i was shocked at the enormous difference at 20k service with own EO and felt the 1st 20k mileage has wasted my car and my ride joy. i think priority in buying a car is to enjoy it, at least for the reasonable power and performance we are paying so much for.
from my query to the TCM staff during my 10k service (around 1.5yrs back), they said can bring own EO to change in NPMP but they cant offset NPMP cost. if npmp is a must, it is worth it to pay more to get own good EO to really enjoy yr car and ride. however, becos using outside EO, car need (or recommend - cant remember) to re-service at 5k interval. Not sure things have changed since then.
NPMP is a very good initiative. If TCM allows EO offset from NPMP cost, then it is excellent. i guess TCM has enough customers on hand for their NPMP (thus the long queue at service centres) and thus they disallow other EO other than their own flasflo EO to maximise their profit. it makes sense for them as a biz.
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what about use our own EO and then ask them to refill our bottles with their fastflo EO?? can use on my dad's old car as he doesnt care that much about the EO....
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hi all,
yesterday i call TCM BT to chk book for servicing after cny. i enquire abt the NPMP on the engine oil. They said using fastflo which i dun think i wan that. so i ask can change to shogun? they said cannot leh :confused1:. even i top up $$$ oso cannot :mad:. any bro/ sis out there with NPMP change to shogun EO? heard so many ppl complaint abt fastflo EO leh......
thks alot ;)
hi max
chin cai loh, use fasflo loh. foc with the npmp leh.
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it's better to hv a personal feel of how flasflo performs for yr car by trying EO of another GOOD brand and series. i was shocked at the enormous difference at 20k service with own EO and felt the 1st 20k mileage has wasted my car and my ride joy. i think priority in buying a car is to enjoy it, at least for the reasonable power and performance we are paying so much for.
from my query to the TCM staff during my 10k service (around 1.5yrs back), they said can bring own EO to change in NPMP but they cant offset NPMP cost. if npmp is a must, it is worth it to pay more to get own good EO to really enjoy yr car and ride. however, becos using outside EO, car need (or recommend - cant remember) to re-service at 5k interval. Not sure things have changed since then.
NPMP is a very good initiative. If TCM allows EO offset from NPMP cost, then it is excellent. i guess TCM has enough customers on hand for their NPMP (thus the long queue at service centres) and thus they disallow other EO other than their own flasflo EO to maximise their profit. it makes sense for them as a biz.
hi walker
iagree w u.
and i am one of the TCM's NPMP customers.
imo, it is worthwhile to take the pkg, hassle free.
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hi max
chin cai loh, use fasflo loh. foc with the npmp leh.
hi!
so u r using their fastflo har? there are so many comment on this EO. last time servicing i choose shogun 5w40. this time round thinkig of getting lighter one 5w30. but too bad leh, cannot change EO in NPMP. scared fastflo making my car retarded leh. do u know wats the grade of this fastflo EO? how do u feel abt this EO? u ever tried other EO? thks bro ;)
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Fastflo vs Carlube. Which is better?
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Fastflo vs Carlube. Which is better?
according to the feedback, Carlube is better than Fastflo..
But for me, i am going to use Fastflo 1st for my coming 10K servicing.. 1st time using synthetic EO.. so i am going to use Fastfllo first then swtich to other brands => so that can see the benefits of using other brands of EO
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hi!
so u r using their fastflo har? there are so many comment on this EO. last time servicing i choose shogun 5w40. this time round thinkig of getting lighter one 5w30. but too bad leh, cannot change EO in NPMP. scared fastflo making my car retarded leh. do u know wats the grade of this fastflo EO? how do u feel abt this EO? u ever tried other EO? thks bro ;)
hi maxngck
ya, i use npmp, they give fasflo, so far so good still ok.
retard? i aso donno how to compare the 'retard' , not sure how to compare... so cant comment much.
i thk latio is basically a family car, slow & steady, no pick-up to cheong that type of car. so, MAI HIAM liao.
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what about use our own EO and then ask them to refill our bottles with their fastflo EO?? can use on my dad's old car as he doesnt care that much about the EO....
anybody??
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anybody??
hi marv
better dun mix?
drive ur car back to tcm to ask them to refill for u.
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hi marv
better dun mix?
drive ur car back to tcm to ask them to refill for u.
Bro iagree,
Think you mis-interpret Bro maverick1975's intention.