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Title: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: iagree on October 14, 2008, 02:58:49 PM
Hello guys,

Recently, I realize this Steering noise if i do a fast 200 to 250degree turning on the Steering when I park my car.... May be is coz of my 4 new GR80 tyres side effect?

Anyone?

Thanks in advance.

Regards.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: clarence on October 14, 2008, 04:58:29 PM
Look under your car. Do you see any power steering fluid leakage.

Should have nothing to do with your new GR80 tyres.

I would advise you to send your car to Tan Chong for a free diagnosis since it is under warranty.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: iagree on October 14, 2008, 05:30:50 PM
Look under your car. Do you see any power steering fluid leakage.

Should have nothing to do with your new GR80 tyres.

I would advise you to send your car to Tan Chong for a free diagnosis since it is under warranty.

Hi clarence

Thanks for info.

Can I drive in without booking/appointment just for a quick achoc check?
The noise is not frequent.

Regards.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: gh05tss on October 14, 2008, 05:34:53 PM
Hello guys,

Recently, I realize this Steering noise if i do a fast 200 to 250degree turning on the Steering when I park my car.... May be is coz of my 4 new GR80 tyres side effect?

Anyone?

Thanks in advance.

Regards.

Not your rubber la....it your Steering Wheel...go to TCM and tell them there's noise when you turn...On Off it happen...I bet 90% sure that it cause by the cable within the Steering Wheel..it happens to me.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: iagree on October 14, 2008, 05:37:13 PM
Not your rubber la....it your Steering Wheel...go to TCM and tell them there's noise when you turn...On Off it happen...I bet 90% sure that it cause by the cable within the Steering Wheel..it happens to me.

Hi gui ge

i see. Cable within the Steering Wheel?
how is the impact? good & bad impact?

Regards.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: gh05tss on October 14, 2008, 05:39:58 PM
Hi gui ge

i see. Cable within the Steering Wheel?
how is the impact? good & bad impact?

Regards.

What impact? Just go get the cable change will do cos for mine the noise never come back.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: clarence on October 14, 2008, 05:58:43 PM
Hi clarence

Thanks for info.

Can I drive in without booking/appointment just for a quick achoc check?
The noise is not frequent.

Regards.

I think it is better to make an appointment so that you do not have to wait for so long.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: Jazz on October 14, 2008, 10:22:16 PM
I also have this noise, thought is the steering coupling. sian.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: jpgyip on October 15, 2008, 07:40:03 AM
I also have this noise, thought is the steering coupling. sian.

If got knocking sound then steering coupling usually when turning at low speed. I changed mine last friday. I complain during my 10000km svc but they juz oil and never replaced so my recent svc i complain again and this time they change. But I waited 1 week coz no stock.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: HumbleCar on October 15, 2008, 08:27:32 AM
Hi gui ge

i see. Cable within the Steering Wheel?
how is the impact? good & bad impact?

Regards.
I also have the same problem as Gui Ge.  Cable within the steering wheel loose.  Went TCM to have it rectified.  But I think yours may be considered "normal" by TCM.  The reason for saying that is that when I brought my car to TCM on the steering wheel noise, the noise sounds like rubbing sound.  I could hear the sound even if I turn the steering slowly, such as going up or coming down MSCP.  During the testing by TCM technician, he identified the problem within minutes.  However, he highlighted to me that the motor sound is normal if we were to turn the steering fast, which he demonstrated by turning the steering to the limit (i.e. more than your 200-250 degrees).  Since you hear the sound only if you turn the steering fast, then TCM will say it is normal.  Took them quite long.  Appointment time at 9.30 am and ready for collection only at 2 pm.  They said quite complicated because they have to dismantle parts (-- may be smoke me only).  Do share with us if TCM tells you the same thing.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: karkadyz on October 15, 2008, 11:39:32 AM
i oso hear noise when reverse parking. TCM said the factory should have removed that noise and they replaced something for me. but now the noise is getting worse.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: HumbleCar on October 15, 2008, 12:56:38 PM
i oso hear noise when reverse parking. TCM said the factory should have removed that noise and they replaced something for me. but now the noise is getting worse.
Hi, what type of noise are you referring to and does the noise happen the moment you engage R gear or only when the car is moving backward?
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: clarence on October 15, 2008, 04:53:26 PM
I also have the same problem as Gui Ge.  Cable within the steering wheel loose.  Went TCM to have it rectified.  But I think yours may be considered "normal" by TCM.  The reason for saying that is that when I brought my car to TCM on the steering wheel noise, the noise sounds like rubbing sound.  I could hear the sound even if I turn the steering slowly, such as going up or coming down MSCP.  During the testing by TCM technician, he identified the problem within minutes.  However, he highlighted to me that the motor sound is normal if we were to turn the steering fast, which he demonstrated by turning the steering to the limit (i.e. more than your 200-250 degrees).  Since you hear the sound only if you turn the steering fast, then TCM will say it is normal.  Took them quite long.  Appointment time at 9.30 am and ready for collection only at 2 pm.  They said quite complicated because they have to dismantle parts (-- may be smoke me only).  Do share with us if TCM tells you the same thing.  Thanks.

Tan Chong has this reputation for always saying "It's normal" when you highlight fault parts to them during warranty period.   :nonod:

I've read about so many forumers complaining about this.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: car_man on October 15, 2008, 07:49:23 PM
Hello guys,

Recently, I realize this Steering noise if i do a fast 200 to 250degree turning on the Steering when I park my car.... May be is coz of my 4 new GR80 tyres side effect?

Anyone?

Thanks in advance.

Regards.

mine when turning also got sound.Went to TCM and got the steering coil change. Not no sound liao
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: HumbleCar on October 16, 2008, 12:17:42 AM
mine when turning also got sound.Went to TCM and got the steering coil change. Not no sound liao
In your case, you hear sound when you turn steering fast or slow or both?
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: HumbleCar on October 16, 2008, 12:21:02 AM
Tan Chong has this reputation for always saying "It's normal" when you highlight fault parts to them during warranty period.   :nonod:

I've read about so many forumers complaining about this.
In my case, I did not highlight the sound when turn steering fast.  Mine is got sound even turn slow because the cable loose.  It is the technician who highlighted to me on his own that if turn fast, can hear the motor sound, which is "normal".
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: clarence on October 16, 2008, 10:15:59 AM
That's a good sign. I hope Tan Chong improves on its service.

I think it also depends on which service centre you went to and the service advisor who attended to you.

Which service centre did you go to?
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: HumbleCar on October 16, 2008, 11:10:16 AM
That's a good sign. I hope Tan Chong improves on its service.

I think it also depends on which service centre you went to and the service advisor who attended to you.

Which service centre did you go to?
I went Bukit Timah.  The advisor was Stephen Ang (I think).
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: josho on October 16, 2008, 01:25:07 PM
My steering wheel a bit misalign. Do I have to get it done before Vicom check? And also, when I turn my steering fast, i do hear some noise like fabric rubbing each other.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: HumbleCar on October 17, 2008, 07:59:42 AM
My steering wheel a bit misalign. Do I have to get it done before Vicom check? And also, when I turn my steering fast, i do hear some noise like fabric rubbing each other.
Better get the wheel align.  I kenna before for wheel misalignment and did not pass inspection.  So got to pay to have it align and then pay again for a second inspection (though it is a little cheaper than the first inspection fee), not to mention the trouble of having to go to VICOM to queue up for a second time.

Regarding the sound, my case was the cable loose and the sound can be heard even if turn steering slowly.  If I turn fast, it is the motor sound which is normal (according to TCM guys).
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: iagree on October 17, 2008, 09:44:16 AM
I think it is better to make an appointment so that you do not have to wait for so long.

hi clarence,

thanks for your point. appreciated late. sorry for late reply.

I also have this noise, thought is the steering coupling. sian.

Hi Jazz

I think too common already. Mine just happened recently. I didn't notice in the past 1yr.

I also have the same problem as Gui Ge.  Cable within the steering wheel loose.  Went TCM to have it rectified.  But I think yours may be considered "normal" by TCM.  The reason for saying that is that when I brought my car to TCM on the steering wheel noise, the noise sounds like rubbing sound.  I could hear the sound even if I turn the steering slowly, such as going up or coming down MSCP.  During the testing by TCM technician, he identified the problem within minutes.  However, he highlighted to me that the motor sound is normal if we were to turn the steering fast, which he demonstrated by turning the steering to the limit (i.e. more than your 200-250 degrees).  Since you hear the sound only if you turn the steering fast, then TCM will say it is normal.  Took them quite long.  Appointment time at 9.30 am and ready for collection only at 2 pm.  They said quite complicated because they have to dismantle parts (-- may be smoke me only).  Do share with us if TCM tells you the same thing.  Thanks.

Hi HumbleCar

Did they really smoke u? Terrible.... I think sthing what ppl say are bs oni.

Btw, if we hear there is a little "tick" sound when turning the steering, i think that is consider the real "normal" kua.

Regards.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: HumbleCar on October 20, 2008, 01:05:15 AM
Hi iagree,  it is not the 'tick' sound.  It is motor sound.  Very obvious one.  Dunno he smoke me or not leh.  But he did demonstrate by turning steering fast and can hear the motor sound.  The "tick" sound can hear only if I sign then turn.  When we turn at MSCP (either going up or down), we don't signal.  So no sound.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: iagree on October 20, 2008, 08:37:53 AM
Hi iagree,  it is not the 'tick' sound.  It is motor sound.  Very obvious one.  Dunno he smoke me or not leh.  But he did demonstrate by turning steering fast and can hear the motor sound.  The "tick" sound can hear only if I sign then turn.  When we turn at MSCP (either going up or down), we don't signal.  So no sound.

Hi HumbleCar

Motor sound? Not too sure how it sounded.

When you on your signal, and then you turn your steering at certain degree, there surely a tick sound (i thk that tick sound is to tell the steering to OFF the signal when you turn the steering to the other direction. e.g. you wanna to turn left, u on your left signal, then you turn ur steering anti-clock wise at certain degree it will hv a tick sound. after that when you turn close-wise, the signal will be off.)

Not sure...
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: Carmodz on November 01, 2008, 04:45:47 PM
Look under your car. Do you see any power steering fluid leakage.

I would advise you to send your car to Tan Chong for a free diagnosis since it is under warranty.

I don't think its possible to see power steering fluid leakage. Simply because...the Latio does not use any power steering fluid. It uses a motor.

so hehe, i can only imagine that bro bending to look under his car after reading your advice. keke
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: clarence on November 01, 2008, 06:25:40 PM
Carmodz,

Do you know if Latio uses electric or hyraulic power steering?
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: david1881 on November 01, 2008, 11:36:15 PM
Latio uses electric power steering.  Quite common for newer cars.  Less power loss to engine, better fuel efficient and maintenance free.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: Carmodz on November 02, 2008, 03:07:25 AM
Carmodz,

Do you know if Latio uses electric or hyraulic power steering?

i believe you can give the correct advise now  :smile:

thanks david1881 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: Malcolm on November 02, 2008, 11:35:09 PM
Hi HumbleCar

Motor sound? Not too sure how it sounded.

When you on your signal, and then you turn your steering at certain degree, there surely a tick sound (i thk that tick sound is to tell the steering to OFF the signal when you turn the steering to the other direction. e.g. you wanna to turn left, u on your left signal, then you turn ur steering anti-clock wise at certain degree it will hv a tick sound. after that when you turn close-wise, the signal will be off.)

Not sure...

so what is the tick sound actually? i never had this problem till recently so shouldnt be normal. it only occurs when the signal light is on and i'm turning in the direction of my signal.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: iagree on November 04, 2008, 01:47:25 PM
I don't think its possible to see power steering fluid leakage. Simply because...the Latio does not use any power steering fluid. It uses a motor.

so hehe, i can only imagine that bro bending to look under his car after reading your advice. keke

Hi Carmodz

How to check leh?
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: iagree on November 04, 2008, 01:48:09 PM
Latio uses electric power steering.  Quite common for newer cars.  Less power loss to engine, better fuel efficient and maintenance free.

Hello David,

Electric power steering?

Regards.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: david1881 on November 04, 2008, 11:14:41 PM
Yes, electric power steering! EPS 
The motor of EPS is located at the steering column assembly.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: LatioR on November 04, 2008, 11:22:13 PM
Better get the wheel align.  I kenna before for wheel misalignment and did not pass inspection.  So got to pay to have it align and then pay again for a second inspection (though it is a little cheaper than the first inspection fee), not to mention the trouble of having to go to VICOM to queue up for a second time.

Regarding the sound, my case was the cable loose and the sound can be heard even if turn steering slowly.  If I turn fast, it is the motor sound which is normal (according to TCM guys).

hi Humblecar, which VICOM u went 4 inspection? So niao one ah! Must inform all to ban from going there! Look like they want to get more $$$..
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: kspchew on March 22, 2009, 05:23:36 PM
Sorry to dig up such an old thread.

Anyone know if Autosavers can replace the steering coupling thingy? Any idea how much it cost?
Since my latio is coming 4years old, dont think I will be going back to TCM.

Thanks :smile:
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: alangohek on March 25, 2009, 11:04:36 AM
Sorry to dig up such an old thread.

Anyone know if Autosavers can replace the steering coupling thingy? Any idea how much it cost?
Since my latio is coming 4years old, dont think I will be going back to TCM.

Thanks :smile:
Why don't you give any of the TCM workshop a call to see whether they can do for you on good will basis? I changed mine yesterday at TCM, Bukit Timah during my 20K servicing.
Title: Re: Steering Noise (200 to 250degrees turn)
Post by: Toalson on April 11, 2009, 10:01:39 AM
hi Humblecar, which VICOM u went 4 inspection? So niao one ah! Must inform all to ban from going there! Look like they want to get more $$$..

U r so wrong. Car alignment even on daily driving might need to periodically check and might be off as well.

And this is a requirement under road safety act aka traffic rules which all inspection centre will check.