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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: foofam77 on November 01, 2008, 03:12:23 PM
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going for my 25K servicing soon, currently using carlube 5w40...have not decided on my next engine oil yet....
any suggestion?
thanks
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going for my 25K servicing soon, currently using carlube 5w40...have not decided on my next engine oil yet....
any suggestion?
thanks
I'm using carlube 5w30
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I'm using Fasflo.
Why not just stick with Carlube since it is quite reasonably priced at $29 for 5 litres for synthetic.
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I'm using Fasflo.
Why not just stick with Carlube since it is quite reasonably priced at $29 for 5 litres for synthetic.
$29 is not reasonably priced, its CHEAP
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$29 is not reasonably priced, its CHEAP
More like dirt cheap :bleh: And its better than Fasflo and whatever TCM is offering IMHO :devil2:
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More like dirt cheap :bleh: And its better than Fasflo and whatever TCM is offering IMHO :devil2:
You are right :thumbsup:
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That goes to show how cheap engine oil can be.
If the manufacturer of Carlube can sell it for a profit, plus the middle man, NTUC Fairprice making a profit as well, and there's also shipping costs all the way from UK, and yet a profit can be achieved by selling 5 litres of fully synthetic oil at $29.
Doesn't it feel silly to be paying $110+ for 4 litres of Mobil 1 or Shell Helix Ultra?
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Mobil & Shell are aggressive in their advertising + motor sports sponsorship. So gotta charge premium for "branded" stuff.
Imagine if no brand petrol to be sold..... we do not need to pump at oil cartel
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That goes to show how cheap engine oil can be.
If the manufacturer of Carlube can sell it for a profit, plus the middle man, NTUC Fairprice making a profit as well, and there's also shipping costs all the way from UK, and yet a profit can be achieved by selling 5 litres of fully synthetic oil at $29.
Doesn't it feel silly to be paying $110+ for 4 litres of Mobil 1 or Shell Helix Ultra?
honestly, since you've already paid so much for the car, whats $110 more? you may argue you have to save money since you've blown so much on the ride, but thinking back, hey.. just take bus!
$110+ for some uncles and matured drivers is peace of mind. similarly, ask some people to install tires such as firenza and sonar or whatsoever, they would refuse and rather pay a premium for bridgestone, toyo and whatsoever. why?
they trust the r n d. so honestly, no point feeling dumb about it. to each his own. use whatever works for you, but try not to offend better who are better off and do not mind spending more just for the peace of mind.
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Yup, totally agree with u! Since you are the one who paid for your car and the one driving it, it really is up to each of you to decide what suits your needs and your car best. To each his own! End of the day the important thing is to enjoy your ride! :thumbsup:
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so is it fastflo>shogun? :confused1:
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can more lations shared the exp on the EO used? The last post i saw someone is recommending Hicom EO. Thanks.
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Hi,
I am using OWS 0-30W. The car feel responsive after using it.
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Hi,
I am using OWS 0-30W. The car feel responsive after using it.
Hi naruto, what's price?
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Hi naruto, what's price?
Hi LatioR,
I am not sure of the price. I was quote whole package include servicing plus change of engine oil. You can contact my frenz workshop to check it out. His name is MIchael (Hp: 91076995) from MJ Auto @ sin Ming.
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can more lations shared the exp on the EO used? The last post i saw someone is recommending Hicom EO. Thanks.
i was the one. Still using, but 9k+ already. coming 10k.
personally, i feel its good for the first 4-5k km. but when 6,7k km comes along, not as good liao.
noisier, less smooth. engine rather black.
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i was the one. Still using, but 9k+ already. coming 10k.
personally, i feel its good for the first 4-5k km. but when 6,7k km comes along, not as good liao.
noisier, less smooth. engine rather black.
About engine oil being black, it means that the oil is doing its job of cleaning up deposits in your engine.
If the oil is not black even after 6K or 7K, then it's a worrying sign or it could be that your car is still new, hence no deposits in the engine.
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About engine oil being black, it means that the oil is doing its job of cleaning up deposits in your engine.
If the oil is not black even after 6K or 7K, then it's a worrying sign or it could be that your car is still new, hence no deposits in the engine.
Clarence, where did you get your this theory from? Hearsay? Hard facts? or from Carmodz's signature?
Share with us please cos I think it a good info to learn especially regards to our engine life. Thanks.
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i was the one. Still using, but 9k+ already. coming 10k.
personally, i feel its good for the first 4-5k km. but when 6,7k km comes along, not as good liao.
noisier, less smooth. engine rather black.
I used Hicom once. Have a similar experience as you. My car went for a gearbox change so hard to say if it was the EO or gearbox causing the slowness etc.
Anyway I am back to Shogun, I tried TCM base oil before but went to Shogun until i tried HICOM.
Have to say, my experience with Shogun is good.
I bo pian pay the extra to $$$ to TCM.
I guess after warranty will start to visit neighborhood service centres..will still buy Shogun but save on lab & time & hopefully some $$$...TCM always takes a long time to service the car ;-)
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About engine oil being black, it means that the oil is doing its job of cleaning up deposits in your engine.
If the oil is not black even after 6K or 7K, then it's a worrying sign or it could be that your car is still new, hence no deposits in the engine.
honestly, please share. i am very intrigued by this logic.
so far, everything i learnt has been different of what you're sharing.
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honestly, please share. i am very intrigued by this logic.
so far, everything i learnt has been different of what you're sharing.
im in the same boat as you man.
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Hi Sambal
Would you mind sharing your experience on Shogun EO in terms of responsiveness and FC?
May I check what is the grade you choose and how much extra you top up pls?
Rgds
I used Hicom once. Have a similar experience as you. My car went for a gearbox change so hard to say if it was the EO or gearbox causing the slowness etc.
Anyway I am back to Shogun, I tried TCM base oil before but went to Shogun until i tried HICOM.
Have to say, my experience with Shogun is good.
I bo pian pay the extra to $$$ to TCM.
I guess after warranty will start to visit neighborhood service centres..will still buy Shogun but save on lab & time & hopefully some $$$...TCM always takes a long time to service the car ;-)
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honestly, please share. i am very intrigued by this logic.
so far, everything i learnt has been different of what you're sharing.
With the exception of a brand new car where the engine is still new and is not as dirty as an older used car, there's bound to be carbon & sluge built up in the engine over time, and the engine oil will naturally get "black" in removing these dirt.
If your engine is still golden after 10,000km usage, then there's a big question mark.
Where's all the dirt in your engine going to?
Can you share with us your views on what you learnt about engine oil and how it differs from mine?
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http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=sg-en&FC2=/sg-en/html/iwgen/leftnavs/zzz_lhn4_3_1.html&FC3=/sg-en/tailored/shell_for_motorists/oils_lubricants/helix_new/cleansing_ga_0312.html
Above is a good reference for all.
Let's take it in general and not brand specific.
The primary objective of engine oil is to cool & lubricate your engine and remove sludge.
In removing sludge, naturally the oil will be "dirty" at your next oil change.
If the oil is not dirty, then it may not be doing its job.
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Hi Sambal
Would you mind sharing your experience on Shogun EO in terms of responsiveness and FC?
May I check what is the grade you choose and how much extra you top up pls?
Rgds
How abt amsoil EO 5w30 ???? , tot of using amsoil cos lot of bros here are using
cheers
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"bout engine oil being black, it means that the oil is doing its job of cleaning up deposits in your engine.
If the oil is not black even after 6K or 7K, then it's a worrying sign or it could be that your car is still new, hence no deposits in the engine."
firstly, dirt goes to the oil filter.
secondly, no oil will still be golden. anyone who cooks will probably know this as well.
and thirdly, what i learn is that engine oil lubes your engine system, NOT remove dirt and carbon. if it does, why do we still need engine flush for?
and since as you mentioned if new car engine oil might still remain golden, i wonder WHY is it a must to flush out during our 1k svcing, just use until we decide to scrap the car. better idea?
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oh yah .........engine oil erm does play a small part in cooling the engine , but hor u noe got tis square tink in front of ur car engine wif lots of miniature vanes 1.....wif coolant inside 1......ahhh thats the radiator .it circulates the coolant thruout ur engine 2 keep ur engine as cool as possible :) .huat ar!!! ntc-2 cert holder automotive technology 1997-1999. (actually i sleep alot during my 2nd year, but basic i still can lah heehee)TAI KAY HUAT AR!!!888, i using w40 some jap engine oil , fully syn ,response better liao cause no more using mineral oil hehe
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Hi LatioR,
I am not sure of the price. I was quote whole package include servicing plus change of engine oil. You can contact my frenz workshop to check it out. His name is MIchael (Hp: 91076995) from MJ Auto @ sin Ming.
OK. Thanks..shall check it up.
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i was the one. Still using, but 9k+ already. coming 10k.
personally, i feel its good for the first 4-5k km. but when 6,7k km comes along, not as good liao.
noisier, less smooth. engine rather black.
so bro Carmodz, still worth trying Hicom EO?
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so bro Carmodz, still worth trying Hicom EO?
wah!!! :glare:
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I am using Liqui Moly, Toptech 4100 5-w40 EO. Very smooth idling and engine seems more responsive as compare to Carlube 5W40
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i'm on Redline 10w30, exceeded 80k servicing by 1k still goin good last tank clock 583km. anybody got other brand better than Redline??i'm willing to try.. ;D
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anyone try x-rev before.
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i'm on Redline 10w30, exceeded 80k servicing by 1k still goin good last tank clock 583km. anybody got other brand better than Redline??i'm willing to try.. ;D
Motul. ;)
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How is Motul better than Redline?
Can you elaborate?
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How is Motul better than Redline?
Can you elaborate?
Don't be humble leh, you are the EO guru here. I do not want to disgrace myself with my shallow knowledge.
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I really have no idea.
Please substantiate your claim that Motul is better than Redline.
Otherwise you could be misleading readers.
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I really have no idea.
Please substantiate your claim that Motul is better than Redline.
Otherwise you could be misleading readers.
I will let the forumers and mods to judge who misled who, kay ? Did I mention Motul is better than Redline ? Is all up to each individual preference and feel. I just recommend Motul to Bro RG from my humble experience and see whether he find the price of Motul is justifiable of the EO performance.
You are really shallow minded and take this too personally just because you cannot get over the comments that you are the one who misled members all the while. Good luck to you.
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Motul. ;)
care to share the price and the location to purchase??
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i'm on Redline 10w30, exceeded 80k servicing by 1k still goin good last tank clock 583km. anybody got other brand better than Redline??i'm willing to try.. ;D
so far i heard are
Lousy is Fastflo (1st on the list) then forllow by Shogun
Good one>>> Armsoil, Redline and some say Carlube..
But for the good EO>> anyone can give their share of comments, based on their experience (NOT what they have read up)??
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I really have no idea.
Please substantiate your claim that Motul is better than Redline.
Otherwise you could be misleading readers.
i think you might be too defensive in your stand + ur choice of words arent too friendly... SOund like everyone own u alot of $$ r the whole TLC revolves around you.
..., Jazz and other guys are just stating their own point of views base on experience or what they have read up..
if it wrong, just let them know... No need to take out all ur shotguns or bombs and wack them and demand them for explanation
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Hi Sambal
Would you mind sharing your experience on Shogun EO in terms of responsiveness and FC?
May I check what is the grade you choose and how much extra you top up pls?
Rgds
Hi I usually top up about $30 bucks extra for this oil from package A...if i remember correctly
Because i have only tried 3 brands so far, mine is based on the experience with the 3.
I find the std oild TCM gives Syn is not as good as Shogun for FC.
I am gonna be honest when i say that MY latio feels underpowered always...i have had gearbox changes that has helped so when i think of EO, my concern is always with FC
FC with Shogun inside...no complaints.
I am monitoring my FC with 2nd or 3rd top now. appears to be getting better...with Hicom it averaged 420km for about 40litrs....now moving back to 500plus Km or so for 40 litres
I know other factors influence but genrally my drive style & highway vs city driving stay very similar month on month
At abt 5000-6000 Hicom was making FC go up for my car & also felt a loss pf power agin..this may have been CVT gearbox issue related
I suggest you try all the recommended here keep a log then decide which is the final oil
My car is now 61000plus milage so i have had 6 oil changes. 1x TCM base oil, 1x Hicom 4x Shogun...my poref is with Shogun for now
but if any bro can convince that FC improves with another brand for the avg of the 10K, i will surely try....
pls note TCM does only a minor px cut if you bring your own oil in
I saw Shogun at Giant, wanted to buy but decided not to after spoke with BT TCM saying they take away $30-40 only....not worth the trouble..plus the oil would have caused abt $90 for 4 litres at Giant...
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i using fastflo now,
fc drops although it could be due to wifey also using car sometimes, feels it not so responsive especially during hot day :nonod:
will be using back amsoil 5w30 for next servicing, used them for my 10, 20 & 30k servicing, am satisfied with it.
hmm, if shogun is good, may try it thus no need go buy engine oil myself.
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i think you might be too defensive in your stand + ur choice of words arent too friendly... SOund like everyone own u alot of $$ r the whole TLC revolves around you.
..., Jazz and other guys are just stating their own point of views base on experience or what they have read up..
if it wrong, just let them know... No need to take out all ur shotguns or bombs and wack them and demand them for explanation
I fully agree with you. :smile:
However, I am just returning the same treatment that these very same guys gave me. ::)
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i using fastflo now,
fc drops although it could be due to wifey also using car sometimes, feels it not so responsive especially during hot day :nonod:
will be using back amsoil 5w30 for next servicing, used them for my 10, 20 & 30k servicing, am satisfied with it.
hmm, if shogun is good, may try it thus no need go buy engine oil myself.
shogun is a good oil..very responsive compare to fastflo, if i remembered correctly i used it for my 20k, only downside was, when its due for servicing u must go change bcoz the FC shoot sky high :out:
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About engine oil being black, it means that the oil is doing its job of cleaning up deposits in your engine.
If the oil is not black even after 6K or 7K, then it's a worrying sign or it could be that your car is still new, hence no deposits in the engine.
i am using Redline 0W30, its works fine for me, i ever delay the servicing to 13k before the engine note gets noisy and performance got kinda sluggish. I have tried Royal Purple, Amsoil, Shell Helix Ultra, Mobil 1, Idemitsu, i think the better ones is Royal purple n Redline
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I fully agree with you. :smile:
However, I am just returning the same treatment that these very same guys gave me. ::)
Now now boyz....everyone here is just putting their two cents worth and there is nothing to be hostile abt. If u dun like some one in this forum...then dun read and reply to his post....besides....we are all just passing time here....hehe....at least i m....i was really sick for 2 days and now return to the forum was shocked to see some hostile posts....let's keep an open mind and have fun as end of yr is ard the corner...time to plan holiday..... :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
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Now now boyz....everyone here is just putting their two cents worth and there is nothing to be hostile abt. If u dun like some one in this forum...then dun read and reply to his post....besides....we are all just passing time here....hehe....at least i m....i was really sick for 2 days and now return to the forum was shocked to see some hostile posts....let's keep an open mind and have fun as end of yr is ard the corner...time to plan holiday..... :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
totally agree ;D, the last thing i hope to see is this forum turning into what mycarforum is now, very unfriendly :nonod:
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..... :bleh: :bleh: :bleh:
Take care and get well soon, I also sick since monday and still have to work. Body feel like want to go workshop for servicing liao.
btw, I am on TCM shogun for 8k now, better than fastflo but I think other brand can do better than shogun.
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Take care and get well soon, I also sick since monday and still have to work. Body feel like want to go workshop for servicing liao.
btw, I am on TCM shogun for 8k now, better than fastflo but I think other brand can do better than shogun.
Thanks....am feeling better today though stomach still weak....how do u know wat engine oil they used? I just went for my 5k service on last sat....
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Hi I usually top up about $30 bucks extra for this oil from package A...if i remember correctly
Because i have only tried 3 brands so far, mine is based on the experience with the 3.
I find the std oild TCM gives Syn is not as good as Shogun for FC.
I am gonna be honest when i say that MY latio feels underpowered always...i have had gearbox changes that has helped so when i think of EO, my concern is always with FC
FC with Shogun inside...no complaints.
I am monitoring my FC with 2nd or 3rd top now. appears to be getting better...with Hicom it averaged 420km for about 40litrs....now moving back to 500plus Km or so for 40 litres
I know other factors influence but genrally my drive style & highway vs city driving stay very similar month on month
At abt 5000-6000 Hicom was making FC go up for my car & also felt a loss pf power agin..this may have been CVT gearbox issue related
I suggest you try all the recommended here keep a log then decide which is the final oil
My car is now 61000plus milage so i have had 6 oil changes. 1x TCM base oil, 1x Hicom 4x Shogun...my poref is with Shogun for now
but if any bro can convince that FC improves with another brand for the avg of the 10K, i will surely try....
pls note TCM does only a minor px cut if you bring your own oil in
I saw Shogun at Giant, wanted to buy but decided not to after spoke with BT TCM saying they take away $30-40 only....not worth the trouble..plus the oil would have caused abt $90 for 4 litres at Giant...
You have to check the manufacture date of those cheap on sale engine oil at Giant.
I saw those 1 litre pack Mobil 1 fully synythetic oil going for only $15 each. So 4 bottles or 4 litres only S$60. Packed in Singapore. Same as those you get from Esso petrol stations retailing at about $110 for 4 litres.
Cheap right?
But the manufacture date was... ahem... October 2004.
Will sealed & unopened engine oil deteriorate over time?
Is it still safe to use 4 year old engine oil?
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I fully agree with you. :smile:
However, I am just returning the same treatment that these very same guys gave me. ::)
Do you really understand what limck007 telling you or not ? I really doubt so .... pengz ....
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http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=sg-en&FC2=/sg-en/html/iwgen/leftnavs/zzz_lhn4_3_1.html&FC3=/sg-en/tailored/shell_for_motorists/oils_lubricants/helix_new/cleansing_ga_0312.html
Above is a good reference for all.
Let's take it in general and not brand specific.
The primary objective of engine oil is to cool & lubricate your engine and remove sludge.
In removing sludge, naturally the oil will be "dirty" at your next oil change.
If the oil is not dirty, then it may not be doing its job.
How do you differentiate the black EO is due to it's cleaning power or it's lousy properties? This I know, oil degrades over time and heat and the color darkened Once it color darkened, it loses it's lubricating properties.
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I will let the forumers and mods to judge who misled who, kay ? Did I mention Motul is better than Redline ? Is all up to each individual preference and feel. I just recommend Motul to Bro RG from my humble experience and see whether he find the price of Motul is justifiable of the EO performance.
You are really shallow minded and take this too personally just because you cannot get over the comments that you are the one who misled members all the while. Good luck to you.
dont waste time bro.
talk to idiots, and they will lower you to their level and thrash you.
cheers.
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Come on....we are all responsible and thinking adults here.....i believe that for everything u read in this forum, everyone is taking it with a pinch of salt....it is not the case of "you jump I jump" right? None of us here are idiots or experts of any sort...maybe some are expert in some area....we are all just sharing our personal experience....and since it is personal experience...it is subjective...meaning...the same knife cut you and me the same place may have different level of pain.....so dun get so upset and excited over it....life in Sg is already stressful...just want to have a place to relax and tok kok only....
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Hi I usually top up about $30 bucks extra for this oil from package A...if i remember correctly
Because i have only tried 3 brands so far, mine is based on the experience with the 3.
FC with Shogun inside...no complaints.
I am monitoring my FC with 2nd or 3rd top now. appears to be getting better...with Hicom it averaged 420km for about 40litrs....now moving back to 500plus Km or so for 40 litres
I saw Shogun at Giant, wanted to buy but decided not to after spoke with BT TCM saying they take away $30-40 only....not worth the trouble..plus the oil would have caused abt $90 for 4 litres at Giant...
Hmmm.. then now i also feel like giving Shogun a try on my 1st 10K servicing... I am thinking of using Amsoil.. but LAZY to go buy ($70-$90)and carry over.
might use shogun
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Do you really understand what limck007 telling you or not ? I really doubt so .... pengz ....
okie lets shake hand or ignore each other.. but let close the lid and forget abt this =D
back to the questions.. EO .. which to use or which is value for money?
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I saw those 1 litre pack Mobil 1 fully synythetic oil going for only $15 each. So 4 bottles or 4 litres only S$60. Packed in Singapore. Same as those you get from Esso petrol stations retailing at about $110 for 4 litres.
hmmmm... i tot the supermarket/petrol station EOs> shld be cheaper?? like $30-50 for 5 litres??
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hmmmm... i tot the supermarket/petrol station EOs> shld be cheaper?? like $30-50 for 5 litres??
Those are usually for the non branded ones like Carlube Triple R fully synthetic selling at $29 for 5 litres.
But $60 for 4 litres of branded Mobil 1 fully synthetic is considered cheap.
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okie lets shake hand or ignore each other.. but let close the lid and forget abt this =D
back to the questions.. EO .. which to use or which is value for money?
tats good, either move on or ignore if you dun like wat others are saying, but please no name calling okie :thumbsup:
I still recommend amsoil, hee, some of the supermart wan i saw b4 is 50w or 40w ler, seldom i see 30w except carlube.
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OK? Everything is back in order now RIGHT?
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I still recommend amsoil, hee, some of the supermart wan i saw b4 is 50w or 40w ler, seldom i see 30w except carlube.
hmm doing my 1st 10K servicing in 1 month time... i am thinking of using fastflo first to see how does it feel to be on syn EO.. Then wait for next 10K to try other EO
for those veteran drivers>> do u think this is advisable or i just one shot buy Amsoil or redline EO and change?
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The call is yours i guess, if you never use synthetic oil b4, maybe can't feel the difference between fastflo and your current mineral oil. Just like my wife, recently driving my car again after 1 year never drive due to pregnant, when I complained about the fastflo oil, she say no different leh, still very driveable :D
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Thanks....am feeling better today though stomach still weak....how do u know wat engine oil they used? I just went for my 5k service on last sat....
well, I assumed they will use matching service reminder decal with the EO they use. Yes/ No? TCM put a shogun decal for me during last servicing. Will confirm during next servicing.
:thumbsup: for your recovery... me still sick, need EO change soon, from western med to TCM (Traditional Chinese Med). Stomach week ohh... got check oil plug, else it keep leaking? :bleh:
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ok peace liao be cool
I know nothing about EO when it is due to change it, so I really read this article. (http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html)
After reading it, I decide to do just one time engine flush when switching from mineral to full syn oil and will stick to full syn oil for the rest of EO change. Then looking for strong Hard disc magnet to put on the oil filter.
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i am using Redline 0W30, its works fine for me, i ever delay the servicing to 13k before the engine note gets noisy and performance got kinda sluggish. I have tried Royal Purple, Amsoil, Shell Helix Ultra, Mobil 1, Idemitsu, i think the better ones is Royal purple n Redline
I had tried the royal purple in my old ride before.. it is indeed good and engine feel quiet thou my old ride is 4 yrs old..
but quite hard to find le.. :(
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I had tried the royal purple in my old ride before.. it is indeed good and engine feel quiet thou my old ride is 4 yrs old..
but quite hard to find le.. :(
You can still get Royal Purple oil at : :smile:
http://www.mxtradings.com/Royal%20purple%20pricelist.htm
http://www.mxtradings.com/where%20to%20buy.htm
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ok peace liao be cool
I know nothing about EO when it is due to change it, so I really read this article. (http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html)
After reading it, I decide to do just one time engine flush when switching from mineral to full syn oil and will stick to full syn oil for the rest of EO change. Then looking for strong Hard disc magnet to put on the oil filter.
WAH reali hard core ar........trying to use the magnet 2 magnetised teeny weeny bits of metal from the engine , to prevent it 4 inducing damage 2 ur engine ar.......hardcore??wooooo......but hor ying....if u reali get the magnet liao hor u wana stick it at the oil filter wher??got space meh??keep me updated hor on tis project, tanks
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okie lets shake hand or ignore each other.. but let close the lid and forget abt this =D
back to the questions.. EO .. which to use or which is value for money?
There is no standard rule or guideline of which EO to use, is all up to each individual preference as I have mentioned before. Previously all the while I used to use Mobile1 Gold only recently came to know Amsoil. I have also tried Shell Helix and Redline but tempted to try Motul as many gave good reviews of it, but spending over $100 for it make me think twice.
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the magnet is very strong and not too big, can stick direct on oil fiter cos it is metal. The part maybe foc when you have a crash hard disc and this is for fun only, not really look for big improvement.
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There is no standard rule or guideline of which EO to use, is all up to each individual preference as I have mentioned before. Previously all the while I used to use Mobile1 Gold only recently came to know Amsoil. I have also tried Shell Helix and Redline but tempted to try Motul as many gave good reviews of it, but spending over $100 for it make me think twice.
I think if motul is good, $100 for 6 mths or 10k quite negligible lar.
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I think if motul is good, $100 for 6 mths or 10k quite negligible lar.
Yep, it up to each preference that why this world has so many brands and model to choose from, it the same principle why some prefer to pump 95 and some wanna pump V-power. ;)
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I think if motul is good, $100 for 6 mths or 10k quite negligible lar.
i initially tot EO is change every 10K regardless of brand one
but recently>> i see the Amsoil XL series and SSO series, the bottle say can last 24K leh => appromx 1 year leh...
is this applicable to our country/weather??? or just those western countries?
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the magnet is very strong and not too big, can stick direct on oil fiter cos it is metal. The part maybe foc when you have a crash hard disc and this is for fun only, not really look for big improvement.
ehhh ying....but hor u stick on the filter liao hor how u gona turn ur oil filter in???i abit blur whers ur magnet location leh... :confused1:
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i initially tot EO is change every 10K regardless of brand one
but recently>> i see the Amsoil XL series and SSO series, the bottle say can last 24K leh => appromx 1 year leh...
is this applicable to our country/weather??? or just those western countries?
aiyah my fren wana mass order amsoil 4 me tat time ...damn , but he 2 gao tu liao keep telling me wait wait then tulan i go change some stoopid jap eo beri ex 1 :( blehhh but still ok lah up till now. ask u guys smetink hor...amsoil from wher 1 huh??
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commercial magnet filter much bigger leh. I think still turn, that magnet is not big unless you kia su put 5~6 magnet in a band. Or you can fit the filter first then stick the magnet on it. Wait till I get one lah. Regular oil filter change is still my higher priority.
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commercial magnet filter much bigger leh. I think still turn, that magnet is not big unless you kia su put 5~6 magnet in a band. Or you can fit the filter first then stick the magnet on it. Wait till I get one lah. Regular oil filter change is still my higher priority.
okok i excited sia :) i wunder stick outside will like weaken the process anot ....hey ying if can hor try 2 put inside, if bo pian then outside, my ophinion is if stick outside hor....the magnet will lose some of its power 2 niam....
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i prefer to trap particle in oil filter without adding extra object in the oil flow. there are oil plug that have magnet direct contact with oil.
btw, $28.99 Carlube is only for 5W40. the 0W30 is $66+ at AMK hub
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use magnetic oil nut on my previous car. everytime oil change check the magnetic oil plug sure to haf some metal bits.
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I still think which EO I should buy for my 10K servicing. Currently just pass my 1K on the way to 5k engine seem to lag after the 1k service. I suppose it is the mineral oil which makes me wanted to buy EO for my next 5k service. a lot of you are using redline 0w-30. If we used it will it void the warrentry at TC as the recommendation is 5w-30.
Recently I got to know Mobil 1 0w-30 but really had second tots about going for it. Question like what if the oil is too thin what will happend... Please share your exp. I am a total noobe here. =)
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Isn't the viscosity determined by the number behind? Like 10w30 is thinner than 10w50. I think the front is the winter rating, nothing to do with us. Not too sure though.
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You are absolutely correct! :thumbsup:
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I still think which EO I should buy for my 10K servicing. Currently just pass my 1K on the way to 5k engine seem to lag after the 1k service. I suppose it is the mineral oil which makes me wanted to buy EO for my next 5k service. a lot of you are using redline 0w-30. If we used it will it void the warrentry at TC as the recommendation is 5w-30.
Recently I got to know Mobil 1 0w-30 but really had second tots about going for it. Question like what if the oil is too thin what will happend... Please share your exp. I am a total noobe here. =)
For me, I prefer to use at least '40' as the local hot and humid weather is unforgiving and the strained engine needs extra protection from a thicker oil especially for 'stop & go' city driving and when faced with a traffic jam.
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Whats the minimum our latio can go? I'm using 30 right now. Thinner oil bad for engine?
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I even heard of some using '20'.
Thinner oil has its advantages in being more fuel economical.
'30' can be used.
It's just a personal preference and driving conditions your car has to go through which you will know better (eg. more city driving or highway driving).
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I still think which EO I should buy for my 10K servicing. Currently just pass my 1K on the way to 5k engine seem to lag after the 1k service. I suppose it is the mineral oil which makes me wanted to buy EO for my next 5k service. a lot of you are using redline 0w-30. If we used it will it void the warrentry at TC as the recommendation is 5w-30.
Recently I got to know Mobil 1 0w-30 but really had second tots about going for it. Question like what if the oil is too thin what will happend... Please share your exp. I am a total noobe here. =)
First of all, EO is recommended for 10,000 servicing, so stick to mineral oil for your 5,000 servicing since it free.
Secondly, using different brands, model or viscosity EO will not void any warranty and definitely will not spoil your engine so no worry.
Thirdly, how thin a synthetic oil is still better than mineral oil.
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First of all, EO is recommended for 10,000 servicing, so stick to mineral oil for your 5,000 servicing since it free.
but after 10K servicing, when is the most suitable period to change again??
fastflo = every 10k
Shogun = how long???
Amsoil = XL series, i heard can last 1 year or 24Kkm,
i wonder how true it is?
Even if u use Amsoil>> does TCM still ask u to go back every 10K to change EO??
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but after 10K servicing, when is the most suitable period to change again??
fastflo = every 10k
Shogun = how long???
Amsoil = XL series, i heard can last 1 year or 24Kkm,
i wonder how true it is?
Even if u use Amsoil>> does TCM still ask u to go back every 10K to change EO??
I rather change my oil every 5000km or 10000km despite whatever oil claim they can lasts...imagine dust/slug inside...nothing beats fresh engine oil inside yr car when u driving.
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but after 10K servicing, when is the most suitable period to change again??
fastflo = every 10k
Shogun = how long???
Amsoil = XL series, i heard can last 1 year or 24Kkm,
i wonder how true it is?
Even if u use Amsoil>> does TCM still ask u to go back every 10K to change EO??
There is no hard fixed rule on most suitable period to change EO, different driver have different driving habit and mileage clocked. Normal will advise you to change around 6 mths or 10,000km whichever come first.
If you used your own EO for your first 10,000km service, your next service will be 20,000km.
Of course if you are cash rich like Bro gho5tss, you can change every 5,000km or evey quarter. It up to you how you wanna treat your car. :smile:
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but after 10K servicing, when is the most suitable period to change again??
fastflo = every 10k
Shogun = how long???
Amsoil = XL series, i heard can last 1 year or 24Kkm,
i wonder how true it is?
Even if u use Amsoil>> does TCM still ask u to go back every 10K to change EO??
wow..amsoil can last 1 year ?? i will not jeopardise my engine even the EO claimed
to last a year...i'm changing EO every 8k.
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but after 10K servicing, when is the most suitable period to change again??
fastflo = every 10k
Shogun = how long???
Amsoil = XL series, i heard can last 1 year or 24Kkm,
i wonder how true it is?
Even if u use Amsoil>> does TCM still ask u to go back every 10K to change EO??
The Amsoil that we bought from can't remember his nick, the EO stated 1 year or 24,000 miles not km IIRC.
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8k, 10k are all overkills, extended life engine oils has cleaning agent in it. Is suppose to clean itself of contaminants, most of us are using 10K as a guide because the agent says so. BMW (not Singapore) recommended service intervals for cars after 99 is 15000 MILES,
taking into consideration that we do have more start stop, make it 15000 KM which is about 38% shorter in distance will be good enough. But in order to have your warranty intact, it is therefore best to follow agents' recommended service interval. BTW, Daihatsu has service intervals of 15000km in Singapore, STS the only Japanese car agent that is doing extended service interval. You think they are taking a risk, I don't think so, so why is the other agents' service interval so much shorter? I'll let you be the judge.
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CustomGolf,
I suppose most cars need to send back for servicing during warranty period, so the more frequent the oil change, the more profit for the agent.
I have a question for you which my colleague was asking me. He drives a 7 year old Suzuki Liana.
He travels only 8,000km a year, and wants to extend his synthetic oil change to every 1 1/2 years (12,000km travelled) instead of an oil change every 1 year or 8,000km travelled.
Is it safe for him to do so? Will it damage his engine?
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He travels only 8,000km a year, and wants to extend his synthetic oil change to every 1 1/2 years (12,000km travelled) instead of an oil change every 1 year or 8,000km travelled.
Is it safe for him to do so? Will it damage his engine?
same question here too.. cos Amsoil EO state 24k km... so if we drag till 12000km or 20000km then change EO, is it harmful to our engine??
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hi all, just get my eo changed to shell HX7 (understand it's new brand), synthetic eo, 10w40 at RM$95 (at my cousin workshop), and get my engine flush, seem like my FC improved somewhere 20%after that. Not sure if this EO is gd. By the way, he told me can get it change at another 10k instead of 5k for synthetic eo (anyone can share if it's ok for synthetic EO to change at 10k).
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CustomGolf,
I suppose most cars need to send back for servicing during warranty period, so the more frequent the oil change, the more profit for the agent.
I have a question for you which my colleague was asking me. He drives a 7 year old Suzuki Liana.
He travels only 8,000km a year, and wants to extend his synthetic oil change to every 1 1/2 years (12,000km travelled) instead of an oil change every 1 year or 8,000km travelled.
Is it safe for him to do so? Will it damage his engine?
There are other things that happen in the engine besides travelling the miles, during combustion, water are formed too and it might find it's way to the engine oil area, so besides mileage, there are other considerations, I wouldn't advise on prolonging the change interval to 1.5years, one year is already very long for oil change. The 24000miles you see on amsoil are typically for USA type of travelling, you might be able to clock 100 to 200 miles a day which is only about 8 months based on 100 mile per day. The other factor that must be taken into consideration is the number of cold start because there are more condensation during the cold starts. Try to stick to a year max or try moving to semi syn which is less costly but make sure that the engine is flushed.
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the oil can tahan till 10K or 24k km but can you tahan the FC drop and engine not so smooth way before you clock that distance?
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the oil can tahan till 10K or 24k km but can you tahan the FC drop and engine not so smooth way before you clock that distance?
I'm on amsoil asl 5w-30 and did my 60K service yesterday, never experience an increase in FC throughout the whole 10K and the engine is still as quiet and I was revving the car to 6k on first and second gear last week. The revving, however, did increase the FC. ;D
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Bottomline, don't be stingy on the engine oil change.
Later on, Penny Wise Pound Foolish :out:
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Bottomline, don't be stingy on the engine oil change.
Later on, Penny Wise Pound Foolish :out:
understand liao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
xie xie
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I'm on amsoil asl 5w-30 and did my 60K service yesterday, never experience an increase in FC throughout the whole 10K and the engine is still as quiet and I was revving the car to 6k on first and second gear last week. The revving, however, did increase the FC. ;D
So many good feedback on amsoil 5w-30. Can't wait till my free servicing over to try amsoil man. Got to wait another 28K km more to go. Seldom go north type and car ride to office and park at office job type. Patient, patient, patient.....patiently waiting for another 28K km more to go.
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The other thing that gets changed when we renew our engine oil is the humble oil filter. Has anyone ever cut it open to see what is inside? Just curious.
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So many good feedback on amsoil 5w-30. Can't wait till my free servicing over to try amsoil man. Got to wait another 28K km more to go. Seldom go north type and car ride to office and park at office job type. Patient, patient, patient.....patiently waiting for another 28K km more to go.
28k?? should be 2.8k right? you can use amsoil during your 10k servicing as the free servicing only gives mineral oil, need to top up for synthetic oil.
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28k?? should be 2.8k right? you can use amsoil during your 10k servicing as the free servicing only gives mineral oil, need to top up for synthetic oil.
i tot fasflo is free?
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i tot fasflo is free?
oh, I thought only NPMP gives free fastflo synthetic oil, my apologies.
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oh, I thought only NPMP gives free fastflo synthetic oil, my apologies.
If you have signed up for NPMP, you will get free fasflo fully synthetic engine oil during your 10,000km oil change.
If you have not signed up for NPMP, you will be given mineral engine oil during your 10,000km oil change. You will have to top up if you want them to top up with fasflo fully synthetic engine oil.
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So many good feedback on amsoil 5w-30. Can't wait till my free servicing over to try amsoil man. Got to wait another 28K km more to go. Seldom go north type and car ride to office and park at office job type. Patient, patient, patient.....patiently waiting for another 28K km more to go.
hi HumbleCar, maybe u should swap yr car with me (and with Bro Ying & iagree...we will take turn) so that we can help u to speed up the milleage with FOC :D
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haha.. yeap, for me one trip north will take one full tank liao. Here, one tank can last for almost one month.
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haha.. yeap, for me one trip north will take one full tank liao. Here, one tank can last for almost one month.
eh me also1 mth 1 tank i tink..........vampire car.....
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hi HumbleCar, maybe u should swap yr car with me (and with Bro Ying & iagree...we will take turn) so that we can help u to speed up the milleage with FOC :D
Hahaha. Good suggestion.
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28k?? should be 2.8k right? you can use amsoil during your 10k servicing as the free servicing only gives mineral oil, need to top up for synthetic oil.
It is 28K. Milage when I post earlier was 12K (now milage 13K plus). I got 2 more free servicing (1 under the CNY promotion package when free servicing is up to 20K and another one was from my friend who change nissan car to another brand and he transferred his last servicing under NPMP package to me for a token sum). Hence, I need to pay only at the third servicing from now. Hence, next servicing will be at 20K (1st free servicing), another servicing will be at 30K (2nd free servicing). The third servicing will be at 40K, which I have to pay and which I will bring amsoil oil. Therefore, it is 28K (40K - 12K).
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Giant selling mobil 1
5w50 S$15.99 per 1 liter bottle
5w30 S$18.99 per 1 liter bottle
0w40 S$18.99 per 1 liter bottle
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Giant selling mobil 1
5w50 S$15.99 per 1 liter bottle
5w30 S$18.99 per 1 liter bottle
0w40 S$18.99 per 1 liter bottle
hmm not very cheap leh.. almost the same price as amsoil products...
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Giant selling mobil 1
5w50 S$15.99 per 1 liter bottle
5w30 S$18.99 per 1 liter bottle
0w40 S$18.99 per 1 liter bottle
I have been to Giant Tampines.
Look at the bottles carefully.
These engine oil are manufactured in October 2004.
Are they still safe to use even though they are unopened and sealed?
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I have been to Giant Tampines.
Look at the bottles carefully.
These engine oil are manufactured in October 2004.
Are they still safe to use even though they are unopened and sealed?
I see. recommended shelf life of engine oil should be 3 years and below. if expose to heat even lower.
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Hi,
what is your FC using carlube? our ride is more suitable on carlube 5w30 or 5w40?
5w30 is more expensive..cant remember the price..
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IIRC, carlube TripleR 0W30 is S$66+ at amk hub.
If both at same price, I will pick 0w30 over 5w40.
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hey! i don't come here often, but the engine note of my latio sports is starting to get gruff just about 5000km after the previous fasflo oil change at TCM. Reading thru the posts, I think fasflo isn't worth the $$.
Has anyone here tried changing the oil themselves? I feel like changing the oil myself before the next 30,000km servicing. Should be loosening a drain-plug at the bottom and draining and replenishing the oil right?
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You will need to change the oil filter too.
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The job is easy but need to have a proper way to dispose the waste oil. You will also need a garage or workshop to do the job.
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The job is easy but need to have a proper way to dispose the waste oil.
Yup, pls note that it's illegal to anyhow dump engine oil... So if u DIY, pls spare a thought for yr neighbours (coz my wife slipped and fell when she walked thru our MSCP when someone dumped oil into the rubbish bin) and the environment.
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I've seen certain people changing the engine oil for their motor bikes either at the MSCP or void deck, as well as doing maintenance.
Those people really inconsiderate making hell lot of noises with their bikes and also dirty the surrounging environment. NEA should also watch out for these people for the pollution.
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Yup! U are exactly right!! Coz the oil spill at my MSCP is at the motorcycle lots and there is where my wife fell!! if i ever catch those uncles anyhow pouring their engine oil i sure scold them one!!!
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Does anyone know the NEA number to call to complain abt this issue? Coz if i see anyone spilling oil at my MSCP i wanna call them down to catch these inconsiderate people!!
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NEA Call Centre No - 1800 2255632. Key into your mobile.
But remember to call discreetly, as you are in the same neighbourhood and you do not want anything to happen to you or your car.
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icic.. thanks! =) how do i dispose then? no way? btw.. where to buy the oil filter?
hah.. i won't change at MSCP don't worry..
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NEA Call Centre No - 1800 2255632. Key into your mobile.
But remember to call discreetly, as you are in the same neighbourhood and you do not want anything to happen to you or your car.
Thanks for the tip!!!
i am really upset with these people coz my wife was pregnant when she fell down!!! Lucky mother n baby both ok...
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icic.. thanks! =) how do i dispose then? no way? btw.. where to buy the oil filter?
hah.. i won't change at MSCP don't worry..
Do u have a regular workshop u send yr car to? Coz car workshops will have a drum to collect used engine oil which they dispose of regularly and legally. U can dump it there if u know the people in the workshop.
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icic.. thanks! =) how do i dispose then? no way? btw.. where to buy the oil filter?
hah.. i won't change at MSCP don't worry..
What is your mileage ? If I interpret correctly you just changed to Fastflo now reaching 5000km of the total 10k km before next servicing right ? So why need to change your oil filter then ? Do you know you need the tool for oil filter change ? Just go to workshop and let them do the EO change for you.
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Using Agip 5w40 oil now.
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Using Agip 5w40 oil now.
Agip is good.. racing oil
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Using Agip 5w40 oil now.
How you pronounce Agip ?
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How you pronounce Agip ?
PERSONALLY, i pronounce it as AH JEEP
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PERSONALLY, i pronounce it as AH JEEP
I suaku, never come across this brand, so dunno how to pronounce, not sure is AH or A, Thanks.
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Interesting topic ...
join to dropped a little of my comment.
for my current car .. tried to following..
1. From 2nd Servicing to 70K - Mobil 1 0W-40 Gold Bottle (initially 75 per 4 litre until raise to 80+ per 4 litre - petrol kiosk cost 114 now)
Note ... for two of the servicing .. I do not need to buy EO as cumulative using same brand.. I got 1 extra 3.3 to 3.4 litre of EO for 1 servicing. So .. that save me around $150 to 160 in EO for total 2 servicing.
2. From 80K servicing onwards - Amsoil 0W-30.
Experience ... Mobil 1 is smooth .. even till near servicing date .. engine never get too noisy unless wear and tear of timing chain and etc. Very good experience with Mobil 1 minus thicker oil. Note that I have tendency of heavy foot and my mileage tot not the highest in here but typical can still clock 10K in 5 mths time. 60% HW and 40% Urban
Reason for change ... Car old liao .. no need to buy premium... so .. decided to reduce cost and tried Amsoil instead 0W-30 which cost me $60 for 4 quart. (That is around more nearly 20 bucks saving per servicing)
feedback for Amsoil.. pretty good too (Since it is fully sync esther based EO). since it is thinner oil (lower visocity) the pickup is slightly zippier than previous oil. So ... until I fully consume all the left over ... (I still have 1 quart left as previous servicing using 3 bottle + around 1/3 quart of leftover)
I will then decided to see if can try other brand.
:)
Note. ... if really wanna to save $$$ .. stick to same brand until you fully consume it.
As for own oil change .. yup .. it is environmental not friendly to DIY as discharging is a problem unless you keep and deposit it in the workshop for recycling. I use to do that when I riding a bike.. but only does it for 2 times ... feel it is time consuming .. and decided that such $$$ to earn by others while keeping my time free for other and hands also cleaner.
:)
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Interesting topic ...
join to dropped a little of my comment.
for my current car .. tried to following..
1. From 2nd Servicing to 70K - Mobil 1 0W-40 Gold Bottle (initially 75 per 4 litre until raise to 80+ per 4 litre - petrol kiosk cost 114 now)
Note ... for two of the servicing .. I do not need to buy EO as cumulative using same brand.. I got 1 extra 3.3 to 3.4 litre of EO for 1 servicing. So .. that save me around $150 to 160 in EO for total 2 servicing.
2. From 80K servicing onwards - Amsoil 0W-30.
Experience ... Mobil 1 is smooth .. even till near servicing date .. engine never get too noisy unless wear and tear of timing chain and etc. Very good experience with Mobil 1 minus thicker oil. Note that I have tendency of heavy foot and my mileage tot not the highest in here but typical can still clock 10K in 5 mths time. 60% HW and 40% Urban
Reason for change ... Car old liao .. no need to buy premium... so .. decided to reduce cost and tried Amsoil instead 0W-30 which cost me $60 for 4 quart. (That is around more nearly 20 bucks saving per servicing)
feedback for Amsoil.. pretty good too (Since it is fully sync esther based EO). since it is thinner oil (lower visocity) the pickup is slightly zippier than previous oil. So ... until I fully consume all the left over ... (I still have 1 quart left as previous servicing using 3 bottle + around 1/3 quart of leftover)
I will then decided to see if can try other brand.
:)
Note. ... if really wanna to save $$$ .. stick to same brand until you fully consume it.
As for own oil change .. yup .. it is environmental not friendly to DIY as discharging is a problem unless you keep and deposit it in the workshop for recycling. I use to do that when I riding a bike.. but only does it for 2 times ... feel it is time consuming .. and decided that such $$$ to earn by others while keeping my time free for other and hands also cleaner.
:)
With reference to the blue highlights above, my personal thought is that the older the car, similar or thicker viscosity oil should be used.
And the older the car, the more you should use premium oil to offer better overall protection and clean up the sludge built up in the engine.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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well ... minimum is SAE 30.. Personally.. I feel so long as we keep regular maintenance and not let let the oil degrade to the extend that offer no protection.
For most of the full sync oil in the market, and especially our car is non-high rev engine (i.e temp in the car not as high as those high-rev/turbo-charged, supercharged engine), the EO supposely can last till 20k before it degrade to the extend that offer no protection. Plus the regular change of oil filter to remove much of the impurities in the EO.
note EO supposely protects the piston and engine from wear and tear. Not cleaning the Engine. Most of Sludge supposely happen in the combustion chamber (thats where petrol that offer cleaning and etc comes into play)
thats what I think...
Moreover .. very few people drove car more than 10 years... :)
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With reference to the blue highlights above, my personal thought is that the older the car, similar or thicker viscosity oil should be used.
And the older the car, the more you should use premium oil to offer better overall protection and clean up the sludge built up in the engine.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Oh .. when I mention premium... I referring to the price. 20 to 30 more ... but I changed at 10k interval so kinda of waste. Moreover.. that does not mean the EO I am currently use is no good. As mention... up to the servicing time... the engine still smooth. with exception that I got the chance to take a look at the color of the oil which I supposely think not too dark colored. means still in good condition to last a few more ks km.
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any bro has any idea how much rebate does TCM ubi gives if i bring my own EO for servicing during 20k?
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any bro has any idea how much rebate does TCM ubi gives if i bring my own EO for servicing during 20k?
my last 70K experience is more than $100
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Using Agip 5w40 oil now.
hi carmodz
how is the agip 5w40?
i am currently using tcm's fasflo 5w40, doesnt seem gd enuf.
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hi carmodz
how is the agip 5w40?
i am currently using tcm's fasflo 5w40, doesnt seem gd enuf.
paid $90 for 4L for Agip.
Its good, but then again, its still new.
What about the fastflo makes u feel its not good enough?
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paid $90 for 4L for Agip.
Its good, but then again, its still new.
What about the fastflo makes u feel its not good enough?
hi carmodz
thanks for reply.
i dun feel the 'vrroommmmz' after tcm chg for me for my 40000km major service last wk.
i did feel the power for the REV1 & MOBIL 1 i chg for my 4th@KL normal workshop(MOBIL1) & 5th service@Autosaver(REV1) leh.
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hi carmodz
thanks for reply.
i dun feel the 'vrroommmmz' after tcm chg for me for my 40000km major service last wk.
i did feel the power for the REV1 & MOBIL 1 i chg for my 4th@KL normal workshop(MOBIL1) & 5th service@Autosaver(REV1) leh.
Yo agree,
Autosaver have Amsoil EO.
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could be the viscosity of the oil. rem ... most other could be using 30 while TCM is 40.
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Yo agree,
Autosaver have Amsoil EO.
hi jazz
ic. when i asked that day , they said not selling Amsoil EO.
they gv me REV1.
now hv? i donno
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Any one here tried Caltex engine oil in their Latio and any FR?
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just did my first 10K and started on synthetic "FastFlo" provided by TCM.....is it truth that this oil not very good?
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AGIP is too ex. get ELF $54 for 4L better than Mobil Silver and Shell Helix
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I believe the Mobil1 you mentioned is actually 5W50, thicker oil than those selling at the stations which is 0W40. I might be wrong though.
You have to check the manufacture date of those cheap on sale engine oil at Giant.
I saw those 1 litre pack Mobil 1 fully synythetic oil going for only $15 each. So 4 bottles or 4 litres only S$60. Packed in Singapore. Same as those you get from Esso petrol stations retailing at about $110 for 4 litres.
Cheap right?
But the manufacture date was... ahem... October 2004.
Will sealed & unopened engine oil deteriorate over time?
Is it still safe to use 4 year old engine oil?
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Haven't you even consider Castrol GTX or EDGE. I used them for quite awhile and find it pretty good. Smooth and maintaining lube properties throughout.
Interesting topic ...
join to dropped a little of my comment.
for my current car .. tried to following..
1. From 2nd Servicing to 70K - Mobil 1 0W-40 Gold Bottle (initially 75 per 4 litre until raise to 80+ per 4 litre - petrol kiosk cost 114 now)
Note ... for two of the servicing .. I do not need to buy EO as cumulative using same brand.. I got 1 extra 3.3 to 3.4 litre of EO for 1 servicing. So .. that save me around $150 to 160 in EO for total 2 servicing.
2. From 80K servicing onwards - Amsoil 0W-30.
Experience ... Mobil 1 is smooth .. even till near servicing date .. engine never get too noisy unless wear and tear of timing chain and etc. Very good experience with Mobil 1 minus thicker oil. Note that I have tendency of heavy foot and my mileage tot not the highest in here but typical can still clock 10K in 5 mths time. 60% HW and 40% Urban
Reason for change ... Car old liao .. no need to buy premium... so .. decided to reduce cost and tried Amsoil instead 0W-30 which cost me $60 for 4 quart. (That is around more nearly 20 bucks saving per servicing)
feedback for Amsoil.. pretty good too (Since it is fully sync esther based EO). since it is thinner oil (lower visocity) the pickup is slightly zippier than previous oil. So ... until I fully consume all the left over ... (I still have 1 quart left as previous servicing using 3 bottle + around 1/3 quart of leftover)
I will then decided to see if can try other brand.
:)
Note. ... if really wanna to save $$$ .. stick to same brand until you fully consume it.
As for own oil change .. yup .. it is environmental not friendly to DIY as discharging is a problem unless you keep and deposit it in the workshop for recycling. I use to do that when I riding a bike.. but only does it for 2 times ... feel it is time consuming .. and decided that such $$$ to earn by others while keeping my time free for other and hands also cleaner.
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24K mostly benchmarking using non-tropic climate. Our climate too warm to last till then. The most you can drag is 15K. The warm and humid weather will cause the EO's lubrication properties to breakdown faster. On top of that, we have too many start-stop traffic to make the situation worst.
i initially tot EO is change every 10K regardless of brand one
but recently>> i see the Amsoil XL series and SSO series, the bottle say can last 24K leh => appromx 1 year leh...
is this applicable to our country/weather??? or just those western countries?
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Yes, you're somehow correct for the 'prefix' portion. 10W, 5W, 0W. All these are the freezing point of the EO. For example, 10W, the EO will 'freeze' up (solidify) at 10
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Was going through the manual was surprise to know that it recommends using 5W30, from my previous expreience in using w30 EO, it will yield better FC. :smile:
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Was going through the manual was surprise to know that it recommends using 5W30, from my previous expreience in using w30 EO, it will yield better FC. :smile:
Yes, using a thinner engine oil actually help to improve the FC to a considerable extent. My prev ride is a drinker and i am really surprised how using 5w30 can help in FC. Of course must coupled with proper driving style also... :smile:
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Yes, using a thinner engine oil actually help to improve the FC to a considerable extent. My prev ride is a drinker and i am really surprised how using 5w30 can help in FC. Of course must coupled with proper driving style also... :smile:
It does help as my previous ride all the while using 10w40 and when switch to 10w30 FC also improves. Nothing was changed in terms of driving style and route.
And since the manual state using lighter oil, just wonder why so many is still using thicker oil. :confused1:
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It does help as my previous ride all the while using 10w40 and when switch to 10w30 FC also improves. Nothing was changed in terms of driving style and route.
And since the manual state using lighter oil, just wonder why so many is still using thicker oil. :confused1:
Maybe should say or ask: why is TCm still using w40 oil?
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Maybe should say or ask: why is TCm still using w40 oil?
True... :confused1:
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hi jazz
ic. when i asked that day , they said not selling Amsoil EO.
they gv me REV1.
now hv? i donno
It's confirmed Autosaver do offer Amsoil EO with additional $20 on top of normal service price.
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Maybe should say or ask: why is TCm still using w40 oil?
I think for economies of scale, Tan Chong, like any other agt workshop, chose to use W40 engine oil which is well accepted in general.
For me, I will stick to W40 engine oil due to local hot and humid weather, and the unforgiving stop and go city driving which can cause extreme stress to the engine.
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It's confirmed Autosaver do offer Amsoil EO with additional $20 on top of normal service price.
Hi Bro LatioR,
Thanks. Forgot to mention need additional topup. :thumbsup: