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Nissan Car Lounge - Almera, Juke, Latio, Qashqai, Sylphy, Teana Owners => Latio => Topic started by: wanaka on March 03, 2009, 11:36:43 AM
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My car has reached 60K and today I went servicing at TC. I was told to change all my 4 tyres as it worn out already. They quote me the Yokohama ES501 or BT BR80. I think I was quoted BR80 for 105 + GST per tyre. I would like to know is there any good recommendation or lobang. I really tired of the Toyo tyre.
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You really travelled 60K with the stock Toya J50 tyre ?
Paging for Carmodz.
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You really travelled 60K with the stock Toya J50 tyre ?
Paging for Carmodz.
haahaa :bleh:
Paging for all fellow supporter :D
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My car has reached 60K and today I went servicing at TC. I was told to change all my 4 tyres as it worn out already. They quote me the Yokohama ES501 or BT BR80. I think I was quoted BR80 for 105 + GST per tyre. I would like to know is there any good recommendation or lobang. I really tired of the Toyo tyre.
Check out this tyre wholesaler for great deals.
http://www.tyrepac.com.sg/Form/B2C/Home.aspx?type=TyresSearch&width=185&size=15&profile=65&season=all&brand=All&source=Home
You can get a Cooper tyre for only $88 nett.
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My car has reached 60K and today I went servicing at TC. I was told to change all my 4 tyres as it worn out already. They quote me the Yokohama ES501 or BT BR80. I think I was quoted BR80 for 105 + GST per tyre. I would like to know is there any good recommendation or lobang. I really tired of the Toyo tyre.
Best bang for $, go hankook. do a search, think there is a tread started by some marketing guy from www.shhtyres.com.sg. on my second set of Ventus V8 tyres
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hankook is good.....value for money.
To be fair, to use the stock J50 upto 60k km is possible, my tyres are also left with much thread after 35k km.
Just my backside itchy and go and change them... :yehyeh:
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Check out this tyre wholesaler for great deals.
http://www.tyrepac.com.sg/Form/B2C/Home.aspx?type=TyresSearch&width=185&size=15&profile=65&season=all&brand=All&source=Home
You can get a Cooper tyre for only $88 nett.
Its possible to get Hankook K415 for only $88 nett also wat. Affordable, Comfortable, Lasting, and Sticky-When-Wet
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the stock trye really cannot make it. now 20k shows excessive wear n tear.
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my stock tyres at 61k+ km now which 2 of them already changed in M'sia (b4 CNY 09), 2 more to go (maybe end of this month or next month). Changed at my cousin in law workshop, cost RM$200/unit (Good Year, Eagle) and understand that my old tyres still can sell at RM$45 each :bleh:
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the stock trye really cannot make it. now 20k shows excessive wear n tear.
wow...are you chiong-ster?
i think given Continental tyres, also cannot last long with your style :D
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Could be underinflation? :confused1:
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the stock trye really cannot make it. now 20k shows excessive wear n tear.
interesting .....
the mileage is now 22k and the stock tyres are still "swee swee"
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the stock trye really cannot make it. now 20k shows excessive wear n tear.
Could be due to your driving habits and possibly under inflation.
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Tyres are the only four contact points from the car to the road so I pay a lot of attention to them. I would not use the tyres till the threads are fully worn off. I am trying to keep to the regular schedule of maintaining the tyre pressure and checking for stuck stones, minor punctures, uneven wear at least once a month and rotation every 10k driven. Tyre cost is nothing compared to the price of your passengers' and your life, so choose a good set suitable for your driving style.
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Sometimes it is good to change to a "normal" mid range tyre and replace it on a more frequent basis of about 2 years +, rather than buying a top end expensive tyre which can cost almost double the price and using it till the legal wear level.
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Sometimes it is good to change to a "normal" mid range tyre and replace it on a more frequent basis of about 2 years +, rather than buying a top end expensive tyre which can cost almost double the price and using it till the legal wear level.
Normally, the top end, expensive tyres will wear out faster than you normal mid range tyres. They usually won't last 2 years on normal driving. That's the reason, I'm on Mid Range Tyre. They are too ex and wears too fast, pocket cannot take it.
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I just changed to Hankook K415(good price), been using my stock toyo for nearly 45k km, would have change my stock rims too if my wifey didn't object to bronze rims saying silver nuts and silver centre cap look funny on bronze rims :(
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I just changed to Hankook K415(good price), been using my stock toyo for nearly 45k km, would have change my stock rims too if my wifey didn't object to bronze rims saying silver nuts and silver centre cap look funny on bronze rims :(
good price aside, how do u find the tires? Although its fair to say they are new, but yah, share your new experience with us if u dont mind pls.
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good price aside, how do u find the tires? Although its fair to say they are new, but yah, share your new experience with us if u dont mind pls.
Heres my FR after a few days of driving. Initially, I thought the tyres is a bit heavy, then I realise it is because the tyres got good grip(stick well to ground) thus the initial feeling, drove thru the heavy downpour yesterday and its :thumbsup:. Not sure is it fair to compare to my stock toyo which already serve me for 45k km but the new hankook sure is quieter.
On a side note, the mechanic pump 230 for both my front & rear tyres and I must say the extra air(for the rear) did result in better FC for me w/o any extra feeling of discomfort.
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How abt Falken ZE912? Cheap at $80/pc.
For Hankook, I understand can get cheaper in Msia.
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So when is the right time to change our stock tyres?
My ride is coming to two years this Sep and i am wondering if i should change the stock tyres since the general recommendation is 2 years. The stock tyres still look quite good but i understand that the lower end tyres normally last longer in terms of wear and tear but lose out in terms of performance and safety.
Always got this feeling that the car is taking a longer time to stop when i need to do E-braking even at a low speed so feel like changing to better tyres.
Is it a good time to get rid of the stock at 2 years irregardless of the condition? What good tyres are recommended? (looking at mid range ones that offer safety and comfort).
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some ppl uses their mileage as a guage while some ppl change based on periodic. I tink if ur tyre tread is less than 1.6mm its more or less time to get a new set of fresh rubbers...
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Heres my FR after a few days of driving. Initially, I thought the tyres is a bit heavy, then I realise it is because the tyres got good grip(stick well to ground) thus the initial feeling, drove thru the heavy downpour yesterday and its :thumbsup:. Not sure is it fair to compare to my stock toyo which already serve me for 45k km but the new hankook sure is quieter.
On a side note, the mechanic pump 230 for both my front & rear tyres and I must say the extra air(for the rear) did result in better FC for me w/o any extra feeling of discomfort.
hmm.. is it heavier when u steer compared to ur stock? where do u change it?
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Bridgestone GR 80 makes your car even quieter...try it
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Bridgestone GR 80 makes your car even quieter...try it
hmm.. hw much does it cost? the toyo stock really CMI... :(
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hmm.. hw much does it cost? the toyo stock really CMI... :(
GR 80 no longer in production, its replace by AR 10 which is made in thailand.. so y pay more for a japan brand tire that is made in thailand and not japan???
For me i will recommend u hankook optimo if u r a budget person or take V8 if u dun mind spending abit more for a better performance tire...
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hmmm... they don take in the stock toyo tyres ah? any guys noe wht the stock rim is good? was tinking of changing both(tyres & rims) at next servicing....
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So when is the right time to change our stock tyres?
My ride is coming to two years this Sep and i am wondering if i should change the stock tyres since the general recommendation is 2 years. The stock tyres still look quite good but i understand that the lower end tyres normally last longer in terms of wear and tear but lose out in terms of performance and safety.
Ken: Yes you are right bro. High Performance tires usually lasts longer, but the traction loses when compared to Ultra High Performance tires (within the same brand, there are still some rather pathetic Ultra High Performance tires around). Fyi, Turanza GR80, Hankook K415, Michelin Xm1 are High Performance tires. High Performance tires usually have a Traction of A, Temperature A and Threadwear index as high as 400.
The 1 thing which many drivers do not know is High Performance and Ultra High Performance. Many take brand and compare pricing, but this is wrong, they don't even research on what they are paying for. Ultra High Performance tires usually costs more because of the different compound and construction, else how can the tire tahan speeds of more than 300 kmh?
Always got this feeling that the car is taking a longer time to stop when i need to do E-braking even at a low speed so feel like changing to better tyres.
Ken: Yep, time to change the tires if i were you. Try to research on braking distance. In Singapore driving, short braking distance and good wet grip are priorities imho.
Is it a good time to get rid of the stock at 2 years irregardless of the condition? What good tyres are recommended? (looking at mid range ones that offer safety and comfort).
Ken: Its definitely a good mindset that you have to change regularly. Safety first! If not, it will be like parking coupons!! Save that bit of money if u heng, but once suay, not worth the ROI man!!
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hmm.. hw much does it cost? the toyo stock really CMI... :(
Are you an aggressive driver?
In what aspects do you feel the stock Toyo J50 tyres cannot make it?
It has served me well so far.
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Are you an aggressive driver?
In what aspects do you feel the stock Toyo J50 tyres cannot make it?
It has served me well so far.
Hi clarence, wld u consider replacing your stock toyos j50, with another set of stock toyos j50 after ur current set wears off?
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Are you an aggressive driver?
In what aspects do you feel the stock Toyo J50 tyres cannot make it?
It has served me well so far.
i'm not an aggressive driver.. but as u noe.. some ******** drivers like to cut into ur lanes suddenly which nid u to e brake... juz haf this feeling that the car might not always be able to stop in time...
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information on sidewalls of Toyo tyres - Treadwear grade 220, Traction grade A, Temperature grade A
if Toyo tyres are really so bad, then how is it that these tyres are rated thus?
see page 9-10 Technical information of owner's manual for more information
may be good to conduct some "straight-ahead braking traction tests" one of these fine days to settle this matter once and for all
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How abt Falken ZE912? Cheap at $80/pc.
For Hankook, I understand can get cheaper in Msia.
yea korea tyre cheaper in msia.. 912 is a great tyre offered at good price
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Hi clarence, wld u consider replacing your stock toyos j50, with another set of stock toyos j50 after ur current set wears off?
Definitely, I would use Toyo J50 tyres again!
In fact I recommended my brother-in-law to use Toyo J50 on his Fiat Doblo which uses the same size 185/65R15 as Latio.
His previous stock tyres were Pirelli Cinturato P4 before he switched to Toyo J50. It has been 6 months and he is happy with his new set of Toyos.
Great value at $90 nett a piece and made in Japan.
Most tyres are now made in Asia (cheaper labour and material cost) and yet cost even more than the Japan made Toyos.
http://www.tyrepac.com/Form/B2C/Home.aspx?type=TyresSearch&width=185&size=15&profile=65&season=all&brand=All&source=Home
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Definitely, I would use Toyo J50 tyres again!
In fact I recommended my brother-in-law to use Toyo J50 on his Fiat Doblo which uses the same size 185/65R15 as Latio.
His previous stock tyres were Pirelli Cinturato P4 before he switched to Toyo J50. It has been 6 months and he is happy with his new set of Toyos.
Great value at $90 nett a piece and made in Japan.
Most tyres are now made in Asia (cheaper labour and material cost) and yet cost even more than the Japan made Toyos.
http://www.tyrepac.com/Form/B2C/Home.aspx?type=TyresSearch&width=185&size=15&profile=65&season=all&brand=All&source=Home
Are you sure you can get brand new J50 tyre in the open market ?
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Definitely, I would use Toyo J50 tyres again!
In fact I recommended my brother-in-law to use Toyo J50 on his Fiat Doblo which uses the same size 185/65R15 as Latio.
His previous stock tyres were Pirelli Cinturato P4 before he switched to Toyo J50. It has been 6 months and he is happy with his new set of Toyos.
Great value at $90 nett a piece and made in Japan.
Most tyres are now made in Asia (cheaper labour and material cost) and yet cost even more than the Japan made Toyos.
http://www.tyrepac.com/Form/B2C/Home.aspx?type=TyresSearch&width=185&size=15&profile=65&season=all&brand=All&source=Home
very good...
support!
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Anyone going to try the new Michelin Primacy LC? :bleh: Replaces the Energy MXV8.
http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/article.php?AID=2031
Don't know made where also.. Thailand? India? Seems like got some ppl running it in India liao.
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hmm.. rather confused by so many pple with so many recommendations.. toyo J50 vs. Hankook K415 vs. Hankook V2 vs. Michelin Energy Saver.... :confused1:
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i didn't really like 912 cos seems harder to brake although i have changed to 912 16/205 from v2 15/185. v2 seems to be more "responsive" in braking.. like sticky-er
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I'm actually in favour of the falken 912. Upgraded from my stock toyo to the 205/50 R16 about a month ago. Better grip on the wet road, esp experienced it during these few weeks of heavy downpour, better comfy in terms of noise level and better stability and less bouncy.
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hmm... diff pple diff opions... i'm at a lost.. lolz...
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I'm using toyo t1r change it with my sport rim after SA advice to change my botak tyre after 70K servicing.... Feel good with this tyre and cornnering feel more secure abit.
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hmm... diff pple diff opions... i'm at a lost.. lolz...
Just go with your heart. If you are changing / upgrading your rims at the same time, that leave with less choices of the tyres.
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Hi all, I need to change all the 4 tires soon. I need your valuable advice. I don't do tracking
but drive to K.L about once a month. My speed is 110-145kph. What is difference between
V8 RS/V12 EVO? Which tyre is more comfortable and less noisy and what is the price diff between them? My tyre size is 205/50R16. Lastly, which outlet should I go and who should I
call so as to get a discount? Thanks for replying :thumbsup:
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I'm actually in favour of the falken 912. Upgraded from my stock toyo to the 205/50 R16 about a month ago. Better grip on the wet road, esp experienced it during these few weeks of heavy downpour, better comfy in terms of noise level and better stability and less bouncy.
for sure...increased tire width gives better traction, plus its a UHP tire versus our stock HP tire. Stability and bouncy for sure also...from 65 to 50 profile.
perhaps when ur next tire change, change to the same 205 50 16, but a different tire, den its an apple to apple comparison.
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hmm... diff pple diff opions... i'm at a lost.. lolz...
yes, i understand your problem man...diff pple drive differently and have different requirements of their tires....some tires are supposedly quiet, but i have also heard of pple complaining noisy. Some tires which supposedly have reputation to be grippy, but still, will get complains that its not grippy enough to some drivers. It may be their ego speaking? or it may be that they are really aggressive tire and require semi slicks to control the car.
Take the civic type R for example, the stock tire is a really really hard semi slick tire called the RE070. So to type R drivers, they are used to hardsidewalls, give them a street tire which can be used on the tracks, and they will complain its too soft, whereas to a layman, the street racing tire can be considered very hard already. All depends on the car and the driver.
I think what you can do is do your own research, try searching for test results, what other forums may say etc etc. You might not want to check with tire shops directly first because its usually sales pitch, unless of course you feel that the guy can be trusted and is truthful in recommending the right tire for you, not just the tire which needs to be cleared off the shelf or because of profit margins. This paragraph may offend some vendors who are in our forum, apologies to that, but i am not directing to anyone or any company, just speaking from a consumer's pov.
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yes, i understand your problem man...diff pple drive differently and have different requirements of their tires....some tires are supposedly quiet, but i have also heard of pple complaining noisy. Some tires which supposedly have reputation to be grippy, but still, will get complains that its not grippy enough to some drivers. It may be their ego speaking? or it may be that they are really aggressive tire and require semi slicks to control the car.
Take the civic type R for example, the stock tire is a really really hard semi slick tire called the RE070. So to type R drivers, they are used to hardsidewalls, give them a street tire which can be used on the tracks, and they will complain its too soft, whereas to a layman, the street racing tire can be considered very hard already. All depends on the car and the driver.
I think what you can do is do your own research, try searching for test results, what other forums may say etc etc. You might not want to check with tire shops directly first because its usually sales pitch, unless of course you feel that the guy can be trusted and is truthful in recommending the right tire for you, not just the tire which needs to be cleared off the shelf or because of profit margins. This paragraph may offend some vendors who are in our forum, apologies to that, but i am not directing to anyone or any company, just speaking from a consumer's pov.
thanks dude!! shall do more research b4 changing... :thumbsup:
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thanks dude!! shall do more research b4 changing... :thumbsup:
Remember to buy the brand of tire from their brand origin and not from another country.....
Its difficuit to get people to accept korea branding tires as compare to japan branding tires. But I manage to get friends to change to korean branding tires and the feedback is very good....
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try kumho ku31.. ..it's really value for money.... :thumbsup:
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perhaps when ur next tire change, change to the same 205 50 16, but a different tire, den its an apple to apple comparison.
Thanks for your comment. It is definitely valid. Will go for different tyres with the same profile for a fair comparison in my next change.
Most tyre shops have limited range of rims and tyres for us to change, and provide different services, hence sometimes we left with whatever is available for our choices.
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hmm.. a newbie qn... which profile has considerable good grip and don't really affect ur FC much...?
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hmm.. a newbie qn... which profile has considerable good grip and don't really affect ur FC much...?
profile usually refers to the aspect ratio of the tire aka sidewall height. U intending to change rim? or maintain 15"?
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profile usually refers to the aspect ratio of the tire aka sidewall height. U intending to change rim? or maintain 15"?
hmm.. i'm still considering too... wonder hw i would affect fc.. will it be drastic change if i were to upgrade to 16" rims?
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hi all,
just check out this website: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
i'm interested in changing to 16" rims and tyre as well. These 3 are by far the nearest:
215 50 16 - speedometer reading is 0% too fast
205 50 16
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try kumho ku31.. ..it's really value for money.... :thumbsup:
How much is Kumho Ku31? From where? I am thinking of this or Falken 912...
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hi all,
just check out this website: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
i'm interested in changing to 16" rims and tyre as well. These 3 are by far the nearest:
215 50 16 - speedometer reading is 0% too fast
205 50 16
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So far only can get 205/50 cos its a common size as compared to the other 2. In fact 215/50 no such profile available.
oh.. thanks man..!!! another qn.. if i change at other place.. can i still do rotation at tcm next time?
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oh.. thanks man..!!! another qn.. if i change at other place.. can i still do rotation at tcm next time?
Why not, just need to pay if not mistaken
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Its possible to get Hankook K415 for only $88 nett also wat. Affordable, Comfortable, Lasting, and Sticky-When-Wet
I am considering changing to K415 after seeing some good feedbacks from users.
However, new tyres usually are more grippy and quiet when they are fresh and supple.
I wonder if some bro's here are kind enough to give more feedback after using it for maybe 1~2 years:
1. how many KM can this tyre travel before the thread is worn? 30k? 40k?
2. tyres usually get louder with wear. Does it become very noisy when past a certain mileage? eg. 10k? 20k?
Thanks in advance!
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I am considering changing to K415 after seeing some good feedbacks from users.
However, new tyres usually are more grippy and quiet when they are fresh and supple.
I wonder if some bro's here are kind enough to give more feedback after using it for maybe 1~2 years:
1. how many KM can this tyre travel before the thread is worn? 30k? 40k?
2. tyres usually get louder with wear. Does it become very noisy when past a certain mileage? eg. 10k? 20k?
Thanks in advance!
Hopefully one of our global moderators Latioboy aka Linus sees this and replies you. He will be the best person to answer u as he is on his 2nd set of K415s now.