4AT and CVT

[EM647]

Hi all,

I'm on a look-out for a 2nd hand 2006 Latio sedan. However, I'm dun have an idea how to differentiate between a 4AT or CVT and of course the price would definitely has some differences as well.

Any bro/sis can guide me on my queries? eg. any links to past discussion on this topic?

Thank you.

[detach8]

cvt is available on the premium model only. premium model has the alcantara (suede-like) seats, fog lights, center console (lazy driver arm rest)

[EM647]

cvt is available on the premium model only. premium model has the alcantara (suede-like) seats, fog lights, center console (lazy driver arm rest)

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Do you mean those Latio with all round beige colour interior are only offer to the premium CVT model?

[Silver]

detach8 is correct

can go to showroom to pick up a brochure
I have spare Latio (2008) brochure if you want

also note that premium models come with the rear passenger armrest cum rear cup holders cum large opening to access the luggage compartment (boot) from within the cabin
also front pillar tweeters

aluminium alloy rims, console box and fog lamps can be retro-fitted on the basic model

[Jazz]

Hi all,

I'm on a look-out for a 2nd hand 2006 Latio sedan. However, I'm dun have an idea how to differentiate between a 4AT or CVT and of course the price would definitely has some differences as well.

Any bro/sis can guide me on my queries? eg. any links to past discussion on this topic?

Thank you.

Why wanna a 2nd hand ? First car ? 

[clarence]

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Do you mean those Latio with all round beige colour interior are only offer to the premium CVT model?

Beige interior is also available for the cheaper Latio basic 4 speed auto.

[EM647]

Why wanna a 2nd hand ? First car ? 

No, just not sure whether I will keep the car for long ... as such, I'm looking into 2-3 years old car ... Latio is one of my preference for sedan with good FC ... I like the classic beige interior of Latio.

[EM647]

Beige interior is also available for the cheaper Latio basic 4 speed auto.

Really! .. I think I better do more homework now before heading to the used-car showroom ...

[Jazz]

No, just not sure whether I will keep the car for long ... as such, I'm looking into 2-3 years old car ... Latio is one of my preference for sedan with good FC ... I like the classic beige interior of Latio.

Mine is beige. Pro seems not really hot but cons is find my leather seat like getting dirty easily.

Why not wait for the new FL Honda City, look chio to me. 

[HumbleCar]

Colour, arm-rest, etc can be changed.  Since it is the transmission that is different, just look at the transmission stick.  Think 4AT transmission has gears "1" and "2" (not sure because mine is CVT and my previous 4AT car has gears 1 & 2).  CVT don't have gears 1 & 2.

[detach8]

another distinctive thing about premium is that the interior trims are wooden, not silver... correct me if i am wrong bros.

used car... if you are not familiar with cars and engines and such and is going to buy from a used car dealer, i STRONGLY suggest that you get a new car instead. i had myself 2 used cars. ya, and thanks to them i learn a hell lot about cars, but i paid a hefty price for it also.

one is a 2 year old renault van (kangoo 1.4A petrol). this van is in pristine condition. no crash no bang. i know cos i got it from my uncle. parts still started crapping out at near 60,000km servicing. btw, parts are not cheap, even when it is just a van, because its bloody renault!

and my second horror experience was a nissan march '96 1.0A. although it is freakin 13 years old but take my word for it, any car whether 1 year, 3 yrs or 13 yrs if not taken care of or crash and banged up, you are in for lots of trouble. the typical mentality is... if i am selling my car... ayiah no need to service lah, just whack... and sell it

[EM647]

Guys,

Thanks for all the valuable comments and experiences on Latio ... Is 2nd hand Latio really that bad? But a new one seems costly according to the Nissan website ... so now will have to so some homework ... Since there are still uncertainty of oil price, I am looking for a general good FC, sedan car ... not many falls under this category ... besides Latio, there are Vios and City ... so now still in a dilemma ...

[clarence]

The Daihatsu Materia 1500cc is another good alternative at $53.8K for auto. It shares the same engine as the Toyota Vios.

http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=52

Forget about Vios or City which are assembled in Thailand. Cost price is very low with low labour & material costs in Thailand. I find these 2 cars overpriced.

[aerosignal]

one is a 2 year old renault van (kangoo 1.4A petrol). this van is in pristine condition. no crash no bang. i know cos i got it from my uncle. parts still started crapping out at near 60,000km servicing. btw, parts are not cheap, even when it is just a van, because its bloody renault!

Hahahaha. Agreed bro. My dad used to drive a Renault 19. Parts are really premium priced. Worse thing was we bought a new cooling fan and it came wired wrong so the fan ran in reverse instead...

[aerosignal]

Forget about Vios or City which are assembled in Thailand. Cost price is very low with low labour & material costs in Thailand. I find these 2 cars overpriced.

Yeah! Avoid the Thailand crap! My dad had a vios when he was in thailand. Engine sounded and felt like a diesel just after 1 year.
This was the major factor when I was deciding between vios and latio when I bought my car. I would rather have bought a Japanese Sunny than the Thai vios. In fact, I have heard Latio production shifting to thailand. When that happens, I would avoid latio also.

[Zippy]

Guys,

Thanks for all the valuable comments and experiences on Latio ... Is 2nd hand Latio really that bad? But a new one seems costly according to the Nissan website ... so now will have to so some homework ... Since there are still uncertainty of oil price, I am looking for a general good FC, sedan car ... not many falls under this category ... besides Latio, there are Vios and City ... so now still in a dilemma ...

Have u visited a TCM showroom to ask abt prices & packages? The prices on websites not accurate u know. You'll be surprised how much TCM has slashed their prices thanks to the economy, 7th month plus new facelifted model launching soon. Go ask. Worth yr time. 

[detach8]

last i heard the '07 4AT ex-stock is going for $52k. if you don't want body kit it is $51k. so this is cheaper than a vios. or you can consider the lancer glx at $48k, but a bit lousier fuel economy and build. don't trust sgcarmart pricing for new cars. not accurate. i suspect the reason why it is so high because dealer need the margin to do overtrade for people.

hmm if i look at second hand price on sgcarmart now...
take this as an example:
http://www.sgcarmart.com/main/info-2ENCkAlz-1068.html

$42,100 for 2 years old car = $42,100 / 8 years left = $5262.50 / year
$52,000 for a new car = $52,000 / 10 years left = $5200.00 / year

almost the same price, but don't forget it is a brand new car... with warranty! now they are throwing in free NPMP i think, so that is 3 year free labour and parts.

and if i am not wrong, new car loan interest rate is lower.

2nd hand car can be good deal if you know how to see. best if you have friends who are mechanic. must check if the car had accident before or not but otherwise some things even the trained eye cannot see...

[aerosignal]

2nd hand car can be good deal if you know how to see. best if you have friends who are mechanic. must check if the car had accident before or not but otherwise some things even the trained eye cannot see...

This is very true. Especially if the chasis is damaged. Very hard to tell by normal inspection.

[HJB]

Hi,
Not sure what is your needs, but can try Jazz/Fit which has good FC.
Heard that Hyndai cars has improved .... so another option for you.

[ckyc]

if you die die need to buy a latio, i recommend first hand as the prices have gone down quite a bit for the new cars.
generally i feel second hand latio is overpriced( dont expect too much difference in depreciation compared to 1st hand)

go and test drive a few car first before commiting. my reason for latio is because of the beige interior (i dont like black interior) no other cars in this price range offers.