Myth: Mineral vs Synthetic EO

[HumbleCar]

Just went for my 10K servicing and change to synthetic EO.  The FC is worse than the previous mineral EO for the past 3 tanks.  Find it strange as FC should be better with synthetic oil.  Travel pattern unchange. Anyone has the same experience?

[Jo_Lee]

i'm going to have my 10k servicing this weekend...u go for TCM in-house EO or u brought yr own ?
will report back here for my FC after the 10k servicing.

[loony]

Just went for my 10K servicing and change to synthetic EO.  The FC is worse than the previous mineral EO for the past 3 tanks.  Find it strange as FC should be better with synthetic oil.  Travel pattern unchange. Anyone has the same experience?

What is the rating you used for the engine oil? Most of us are using 5w30 or 10w30 as it is not too thick.
I hope you got the right rating for the EO.

[burnolise]

What is the rating you used for the engine oil? Most of us are using 5w30 or 10w30 as it is not too thick.
I hope you got the right rating for the EO.

so which is the correct one to use? U mean the technician at TCM do not know wat is the correct rating for the EO to be used? I always tot using synthetic is more for convenient as u can do ur servicing every 10k...

[loony]

so which is the correct one to use? U mean the technician at TCM do not know wat is the correct rating for the EO to be used? I always tot using synthetic is more for convenient as u can do ur servicing every 10k...

I dont think TCM care about your FC, as long as it do no harm to the engine.
So it can be EO with higher WT. (>30)

I brought my own EO for service , 10K with Amsoil 5w30 and now on Redline 10w30.
Both serve me well, but somehow I feel Amsoil gives me better feel which I cannot describe.

Still have 8 quarts of Redline with me at home. So no plan to change to other EO from now.

[rongshu]

Just want to clarify something.  I went for 10k servicing last month.  When I asked the technician to use my own Amsoil engine oil, he told me no refund.  The mystery part is he said if using own engine oil, the next service interval will be 5k instead of 10k which is standard for synthetic oil.

I'm really puzzled about the statement: service interval will be 5k if using own engine oil.  Anyone here have  been told the same thing?

In the end i kept my Amsoil oil and used their Fasflo oil.

[Ender]

I service 10k and 20k with AMsoil and Mobil1 synthetic. Both times TC state change at the next 10K.. Which centre did you go to? I did my at lokyang

[robtan99]

Its the way they reply to all customer now by TCM.  I been using my engine oil from 10k to 50k and they say nothing.  Anyway the price they quote is always without the engine oil.  If you can login to ww.nissan.com.sg you can see the price.

During my 50k servicing, they say exactly the same thing and ask me to come back after 5k, thats why i go to autosaver for servicing now.

Just want to clarify something.  I went for 10k servicing last month.  When I asked the technician to use my own Amsoil engine oil, he told me no refund.  The mystery part is he said if using own engine oil, the next service interval will be 5k instead of 10k which is standard for synthetic oil.

I'm really puzzled about the statement: service interval will be 5k if using own engine oil.  Anyone here have  been told the same thing?

In the end i kept my Amsoil oil and used their Fasflo oil.

[Jazz]

Just went for my 10K servicing and change to synthetic EO.  The FC is worse than the previous mineral EO for the past 3 tanks.  Find it strange as FC should be better with synthetic oil.  Travel pattern unchange. Anyone has the same experience?

Hello HC,
It normal, your ECU need time to get use to different grade of EO used. No worry it will improve. 

[detach8]

bro you can attempt the ECU reset. i did it on mine n the reset works:
http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=6305.0

you will get about 2 tanks of bad FC and the engine will feel like it's new, but subsequently it will improve. give it a try, and update your results in that thread :)

[HumbleCar]

i'm going to have my 10k servicing this weekend...u go for TCM in-house EO or u brought yr own ?
will report back here for my FC after the 10k servicing.

I got my ride during the CNY promotion which includes free servicing up to 20K km, including EO.  Hence, the 10K free servicing using synthetic oil is from TCM foc.  Was told by TCM staff that if not during the promotion period and did not get the NPMP promotion package, have to top-up $74 to use its in-house synthetic oil.  Otherwise, TCM will use mineral oil for the third free servicing (i.e. 10K servicing).

[HumbleCar]

What is the rating you used for the engine oil? Most of us are using 5w30 or 10w30 as it is not too thick.
I hope you got the right rating for the EO.

My 10K km free servicing includes synthetic oil from TCM foc.  I asked the technician is it w30, he said not sure then he asked his colleague.  His colleague said w40.  Is w40 worse than mineral EO for FC? 

[HumbleCar]

Hello HC,
It normal, your ECU need time to get use to different grade of EO used. No worry it will improve. 

Hi Jazz,

From your experience, roughly how many tanks then the FC will improve? 

[Lorddraco]

Just want to clarify something.  I went for 10k servicing last month.  When I asked the technician to use my own Amsoil engine oil, he told me no refund.  The mystery part is he said if using own engine oil, the next service interval will be 5k instead of 10k which is standard for synthetic oil.

I'm really puzzled about the statement: service interval will be 5k if using own engine oil.  Anyone here have  been told the same thing?

In the end i kept my Amsoil oil and used their Fasflo oil.

Hi .. dont let them BS you. Sure cheaper if use own Engine Oil. So far .. I go Autoclinic at Lok Yang and I didnt get these type of crap from them. But I do encounter stuff like sign for disclaimer and etc if use own engine oil in BT Tan Chong. Not too sure about the other.

Thats why I typical service at Autoclinic, and they still put 10K interval. I use to use W40 (Mobil 1 Gold) at average at 11 to 12 km/l (due to heavier foot) ... recent one change to Amsoil W30 for lower cost reason (Brought from MX Trading). Still average around there.... Amsoil do give me better reponse as compare to W40...

:)

[Lorddraco]

Hi Jazz,

From your experience, roughly how many tanks then the FC will improve? 

1 Full tank should do ...

[liewks]

TCM always sets the service interval to 5K km when I bring my own oil. Apparently, this is just a precaution on their part. They assume your oil is mineral, no matter what's written on the bottle. You can just ignore it and bring it back after 10K km. That's what I did and I didn't get any lectures from the service advisor.

I've switched from TCM's mineral to M1 5W30, GC0W30 and now Redline 0W20. FC about the same. Guess it doesn't make a difference with my style of <2K rpm driving. GC0W30 is a thick 30 weight oil and Redline 0W20 is as thick as some 30 weight oils. Going to try M1 0W30 next. I've checked some Japanese websites and even M1 5W20 is safe for HR15DE.

[HumbleCar]

bro you can attempt the ECU reset. i did it on mine n the reset works:
http://forum.thelatioclub.org/index.php?topic=6305.0

you will get about 2 tanks of bad FC and the engine will feel like it's new, but subsequently it will improve. give it a try, and update your results in that thread :)

Thanks, Bro for sharing the info.  I got lost and confused liao.

[HumbleCar]

1 Full tank should do ...

I tried 3 tanks liao.  All consistently worse then before when it was on mineral EO. 

[Jazz]

I tried 3 tanks liao.  All consistently worse then before when it was on mineral EO. 

Hello HC,
It also depend on your driving pattern and travelling mode, if it is constant, your ECU will adapt quite fast. Hence if after changing EO your FC drop may due to the weight of the EO used. 

[Lorddraco]

I tried 3 tanks liao.  All consistently worse then before when it was on mineral EO. 

reset ECU then ...