Gear Shift problem

[Ying]

for the alarm sound, it won't sound if you just switch off engine.  The ignition switch should be at ACC position.

it only sounds if you try to switch from ACC position to Lock.

So if in gear N and you switch off the engine and continue turning the switch to Lock, you will hear the alarm sound.  But if you just switch off the engine and it remains at ACC, there won't be alarm.

you are right! can only lock at P but can off engine at N

[Ying]

Ok this one is quite hard to explain, must visualize.

When u put to park, some of the teeth of some gear will lock into another gear's slot. So when you park on slope and put to D and release brake, you will feel the car roll abit before the teeth locks the car into a stationary position. So when you release from P next time, its harder to pull because the weight of the cars are on the teeth.

Solution is to put to N, engage  parking brake(use leg for latio one), release your foot brake(the one you use to brake normally), den change gear to P.

Check this page out for more info.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission5.htm

Ok, golden question: Does that apply for CVT?

[SoL]

Not very familiar with CVT leh. Hehehe.

Why don't you try parking on slope and using P without parking brake? If it rolls abit and stop, then its the same thing. But then again, better ask someone more pro. 

[alangohek]

Ok this one is quite hard to explain, must visualize.

When u put to park, some of the teeth of some gear will lock into another gear's slot. So when you park on slope and put to D and release brake, you will feel the car roll abit before the teeth locks the car into a stationary position. So when you release from P next time, its harder to pull because the weight of the cars are on the teeth.

Solution is to put to N, engage  parking brake(use leg for latio one), release your foot brake(the one you use to brake normally), den change gear to P.

Check this page out for more info.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission5.htm

I try the method; change to N then off ignition then change to P then turn off engine. When release from P next time, much easier to shift.

Will try this method and feedback

[arias48]

So I presumed this is known problem and there is NOTHING much TCM can do, just have to follow the workaround instruction that suggested by various pro here. Going for my 1K service soon.

[Latio77]

I think when u park the car at e slope carpark or wat..... the gear shifting will be slightly hard to pull
I think it normal just that u need to step harder on the pedal....

[SoL]

I think when u park the car at e slope carpark or wat..... the gear shifting will be slightly hard to pull
I think it normal just that u need to step harder on the pedal....

Nono, not step harder, is pull the gearshift harder. You will be able to push the button once the brake is stepped on, doesn't matter how hard you step.

[alangohek]

Ok this one is quite hard to explain, must visualize.

When u put to park, some of the teeth of some gear will lock into another gear's slot. So when you park on slope and put to D and release brake, you will feel the car roll abit before the teeth locks the car into a stationary position. So when you release from P next time, its harder to pull because the weight of the cars are on the teeth.

Solution is to put to N, engage  parking brake(use leg for latio one), release your foot brake(the one you use to brake normally), den change gear to P.

Check this page out for more info.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission5.htm

Tried this. It works ! Much easier to engage to D from P liao now.

[clarence]

That's because the weight of the car is not resting on the gears.   

[HumbleCar]

Ok this one is quite hard to explain, must visualize.

When u put to park, some of the teeth of some gear will lock into another gear's slot. So when you park on slope and put to D and release brake, you will feel the car roll abit before the teeth locks the car into a stationary position. So when you release from P next time, its harder to pull because the weight of the cars are on the teeth.

Solution is to put to N, engage  parking brake(use leg for latio one), release your foot brake(the one you use to brake normally), den change gear to P.

Hi Bro, in your last sentence, do you mean to change gear from N to P without stepping on the foot brake? 

[SoL]

No, you have to put to P as the last step.

1. Engage the parking brake. The one you step in and hear it click.
2. Release your normal brakes.
3. Let the car roll abit, then shift to P.
4. Next time when you start the car, step on brakes, start engine, release parking brake, change gear, then drive.

I tried it and it should work okay.

[HumbleCar]

No, you have to put to P as the last step.

1. Engage the parking brake. The one you step in and hear it click.
2. Release your normal brakes.
3. Let the car roll abit, then shift to P.
4. Next time when you start the car, step on brakes, start engine, release parking brake, change gear, then drive.

I tried it and it should work okay.

Thanks.  Do you also off the ignition and then the engine like what the other bro did during the process of changing to N, then release brake, then change to P?

[SoL]

Actually you can off the engine anytime in any gear, I believe. Shouldn't do any damage. Important thing is just to let the car roll to a stop fully on the parking brake, then shift to P.

[HumbleCar]

Actually you can off the engine anytime in any gear, I believe. Shouldn't do any damage. Important thing is just to let the car roll to a stop fully on the parking brake, then shift to P.

Can we shift from N to P if engine is off?  Have never tried that.  Assuming that it is at P, and if engine is off, I cannot shift the gear out of P because when step on brake, it does not release the gear.  In any case, I got your point. 

Wanted to try just down, but old habit dies hard.  I automatically shifted to P and then off engine before I could try to shift to N and let it roll.  Will try next time.

[HumbleCar]

No, you have to put to P as the last step.

1. Engage the parking brake. The one you step in and hear it click.
2. Release your normal brakes.
3. Let the car roll abit, then shift to P.
4. Next time when you start the car, step on brakes, start engine, release parking brake, change gear, then drive.

I tried it and it should work okay.

Hi Bro,

This really works.  The best solution I have tried.  Since I tried it a few days ago, changing gear from P to D no problem at all.

[arias48]

Hi Bro,

This really works.  The best solution I have tried.  Since I tried it a few days ago, changing gear from P to D no problem at all.

When doing this, the gear should be at D or N?

[alangohek]

When doing this, the gear should be at D or N?

Should be at N.

[HumbleCar]

When doing this, the gear should be at D or N?

Hi Bro, the sequence is listed step-by-step by SoL above.  After a few days, now I am already gotten used to the "odd' sequence of the steps required to put the gear to P when parking.  Put to N then step foot-brake (the one on the left) then release the normal brake (the middle one) to let the car roll a abit (- sometimes no roll).  Lastly, then put to P.

[david1881]

The trick is to allow parking brake to "bite" the wheels and do not allow anymore roll before trying to shift to P.   

[jliow]

when I put to N, then foot brake, then off engine then shift to P, what will happen? it is no good? coz seems smoother this way